Enhanced Under Steer? Is it realistic?

[commodore128]

I downloaded car today, and it felt really good. I noticed that when your were losing the back end the wheel would loss majority of the tension. It reminded me of enhanced understeer option which i ended up disabling before, but for some reason, this car's forcefeed back seemed to have been hardcoded. My Question in real life if you starting losing the back end the tension on streering gets reduced but like 90%?

[clairvoyantwolf]

Enhanced understeer is not realistic (which is why it is a selectable option). Your question said what happens if you lose the back end of the car (oversteer). If you lose the back end of the car the wheel will naturally countersteer. For understeer (losing the front end of the car) it is entirely possible for the car to plow forward and there is no perceptual drop off in steering forces. This depends on the tire and the car itself. The most important sensors for a driver are his eyes and his butt. Steering forces can be a completely inaccurate tell of where the limit is.

[AngryPostmanSthlm]

Idk what enhanced understeer is (meant to decrease oversteer?).

But as Clairy said, there are bodyparts missing in games/sims that gives important feedback to your senses and i understand that is hard to program 100 % correctness.
Irl a driver react spontaniously to all feedback he feels,hears and see, but in electronic pseudo enviroments we have to "think" some of those feedbacks (or compose our own ways of replicate them) before react for a split second, but its enough to lose that last "edge".

In some way (without been drifting or hardcore racing irl) i agree wth you that those "90 %" comes litttle too fast, but sure it sways irl too.

My thoughts are that its very very hard to program the contact/traction between the rubber and the surface at every 1000 of a sceond with all depending variables involved.

Maybe we can include the "tilt" in this feeling/behaviour wich seems very harsh and once starting countersteer we get pendelum growing with every sway ;)

[clairvoyantwolf]

Enhanced understeer exaggerates the feeling through the steering rack of the loss of grip from the front tires due to understeer. Once again it kind of is a sim racing thing wherein the steering forces falling off must mean the tire is loosing grip. As I said, in real life that is not always the case.

[AngryPostmanSthlm]

Ah ok, and yes i both understand and agree