TH8A neutral

[Soliebodom]

Hi I just bought a TM TH8A, which I've been able to configure. But I have an issue, when I change gears, sometimes it goes to neutral instead of just changing gears. I have to press the clutch to get things right after that.

Does anyone have this issue ?

Thanks a lot !

[ling.speed]

It always goes through neutral. You likely just use the clutch wrong.

Since most cars allow for clutchless shifting, it's actually difficult to get feedback on clutch usage. I'd recommend looking into telemetry or recording your driving with pedal app open and reviewing it later (clutch is not shown on replays so you have to record).

[Soliebodom]

Many thanks :-) What I don’t understand is that the gear does not engage after the neutral. When I shift from 3 to 2, I understand that it first goes to neutral, but it should engage 2nd gear afterwards I think.

I’ll try to use the clutch better, but it’s a problem I’ve never had in any other game (GPL, Gt Legends, project cars,...).

Thanks again :-)

[RavingLunatic01]

Shouldn't get stuck in neutral considering it isn't mapped. Even not using the clutch some careful rev calculations you can find gears without leaving the gearbox on the road. With the TH8A it is only in the gear selected like as if holding a push button as long as it is in the gate. however if your revs are wrong and/or you change too quick before clutch engaged it will not go in even though the shifter is up there in the right spot then by putting the clutch in you lower the revs and while this is not 100% accurate IRL kind of way it comes good.

One thing to check is your damage settings since some cars you can kill a gear real quick. I have often started a race with 5 gears and had to finish it a 3 speed. But you would know about that by the damage indicator.

[Soliebodom]

Thanks For this answer :-)

I understand I must be using the clutch wrongly. Maybe I change gears before the clutch pedal is fully pressed.. I’ll try to use it properly :-)

Anyway it’s strange that I never had this issue in any other game ?

[RavingLunatic01]

I have my clutch set to range from - 0 and to -100 in the settings in AC. I cant recall why I actually did that because in just about every other game on set up I have my threshold from 5 to 90 as my standard. I used the ACL Nissan GTR 2000 with damage at 100% as there are only a handful of cars available in AC that don't mind pointing out you are getting over enthusiastic with gear change and that is one of them.

[ling.speed]

You might want to try adding a deadzone to top of the clutch pedal travel. As you need almost full clutch for clean gearchange when the revs aren't matched enough. While the last 20% of pedal travel can be surprisingly slippery to reach/keep for long enough for a gear change.

Also it's not all about clutch, almost all cars in AC can be cleanly shifted without clutch which means your problems starts with throttle pedal-gearstick coordination.

[NTU]

Originally posted by RavingLunatic01:

even though the shifter is up there in the right spot then by putting the clutch in you lower the revs and while this is not 100% accurate IRL kind of way it comes good.

IRL, if you push the clutch in, revs go down even if the transmission is in gear and not neutral. What's inaccurate about the clutch in AC? I drive stick and it feels right. WADDIMISS!????

[RavingLunatic01]

Originally posted by NTU:

Originally posted by RavingLunatic01:

even though the shifter is up there in the right spot then by putting the clutch in you lower the revs and while this is not 100% accurate IRL kind of way it comes good.

IRL, if you push the clutch in, revs go down even if the transmission is in gear and not neutral. What's inaccurate about the clutch in AC? I drive stick and it feels right. WADDIMISS!????

IRL if you push down the clutch the revs go up, it is backing off the gas during the change that affects the revs. It is not about what is inaccurate about the clutch in AC as it works fine however , some of the mods can have suspect rpm window setting for gear change which you can either live with or alter it to suit.

[Soliebodom]

Thanks all for your answers :-) I understand the problem is between the seat and the wheel, so I’ll fix that !!
But it did not feel right to me, that’s why I posted. I’m used to have hard gearboxes in real life (when it’s very hard to pull the gear stick) but when the shifter stick is engaged in a gear, I’m used to consider the gear is engaged :-) Anyway I’ll try to add a little
dead zone and change the clutch range, and work on my timing. Thanks again :-)

[bondyboy]

Originally posted by Soliedrago:

Thanks all for your answers :-) I understand the problem is between the seat and the wheel, so I’ll fix that !!
But it did not feel right to me, that’s why I posted. I’m used to have hard gearboxes in real life (when it’s very hard to pull the gear stick) but when the shifter stick is engaged in a gear, I’m used to consider the gear is engaged :-) Anyway I’ll try to add a little
dead zone and change the clutch range, and work on my timing. Thanks again :-)

Yes real clutches will have a narrow biting point somewhere in the full travel of the pedal, as default in AC the whole clutch pedal travel is the biting point and so needs to be fully depressed before gear can be selected

Adding deadzones at the beginning and end of the travel will more closely match a RL clutch

[NTU]

Originally posted by RavingLunatic01:

Originally posted by NTU:

IRL, if you push the clutch in, revs go down even if the transmission is in gear and not neutral. What's inaccurate about the clutch in AC? I drive stick and it feels right. WADDIMISS!????

IRL if you push down the clutch the revs go up, it is backing off the gas during the change that affects the revs. It is not about what is inaccurate about the clutch in AC as it works fine however , some of the mods can have suspect rpm window setting for gear change which you can either live with or alter it to suit.

I never mentioned applying gas in my post.. If you are coasting, and you push the clutch in, THE REVS GO DOWN, NOT UP! THE REVS GO UP WHEN YOU PUSH THE CLUTCH IN, THEN APPLY GAS. YOU'RE TROLLING!