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Arward Enword 10 ABR 2017 a las 15:23
Fanatec CSL Elite randomly shuts off
My Fanatec base will randomly shut off in the middle of racing. Seems to mainly be with AC and iRacing. I've already tried turning off the power management settings in device manager, I've turned off USB selective suspend setting in power options, I've updated the firmware, tried plugging into a USB 2.0 instead of 3.0, and tried all of my other ports on my PC and it still happens. It never seems to be at the same time. Some days it works fine and never does it. It can't be a lack of power, I have a 750w power supply.

Here's my system specs:

Intel i7 6700k 4.0ghz

Windows 10 64bit

Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1080

GIGABYTE G1 Gaming GA-Z170X-Gaming GT

16GB of RAM
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[HelixxVR] Flag 10 ABR 2017 a las 19:01 
Sounds like it's a hardware issue with your wheel.
Have you tried plugging the wheel into a different electrical outlet?
Does the wheel base feel hot to the touch? (motor overheating could cause this if fan isn't engaging or vents are dusty)

If it's still under warranty I would shoot Fanatec support.
Hope you get it figured out
Última edición por [HelixxVR] Flag; 10 ABR 2017 a las 19:14
CarDr 10 ABR 2017 a las 20:09 
Shuts off in what way? Does the FFB stop working or does the wheel stop sending input signal to the game- unable to steer the vehicle? Any error code on the LCD (like 888)? And what do you have to do to get it working again?

Windows will deliver a chime sound if a USB device is connected/ disconnected through your sound system, check the cable for loose connection. The 24v power supply for the wheel may have a green LED on the brick when it’s working. FFB motors are known for failure (code 888) with signs of weak force before they overheat and shut off. I believe the elite had a 2 year warranty.

Arward Enword 10 ABR 2017 a las 22:03 
I hear the windows chime noise and it just powers down. I just have to press the power button to get it working again. It may just be an over heating issue. The motor still works fine and FFB doesn't usually cut out when it happens. I tried messing with some more FFB settings on the wheel tonight and it seemed to not heat up as much so finger crossed! I'm going to try again tomorrow and do an hour long practice seission in iRacing and see if it stays powered on. After an hour or so of use seems to be when it shuts off. I read in the manuel for the wheel that if it does reach a very high temp, it has a safety feature where it auto shuts off to prevent damage so hopefully that's all it is. I'll give an update tomorrow after I give it a go again.
Baker 10 ABR 2017 a las 23:44 
I have the same wheel and I did notice the fan noise starts to get loud if playing at high levels.
Though with the setup I use, FFB settings at about 70 It doesn't heat up as much and is still better than my old g27 as far as FFB strength.

I do wonder how high you have your FFB setup on the wheel?
I have wanted to set mine a bit higher at times but it does start to get noisy and that put me off.

CarDr 11 ABR 2017 a las 0:29 
There is one thermo-sensor located in the cooling fins for the motors. This is used for the cooling fan control and will throttle down FFB voltage when temps get too high. In can shut FFB voltage off if excessive temps are reached. But the rest of the wheel will stay powered to keep the fans running.

Could be the 24v power brick shutting down momentarily, loose wire connections inside the wheel base, or internal short. One location for wires shorting is the back end of the axle shaft, the wires for wheel face (buttons, shifter paddles, LCD) go down the center of the shaft. Some were made with ribbon cable. Some shafts had a sharp edge at the bottom end and would rub through the wire insulation.

Some have found a bad connection at the back side of the power plug-in jack, shaking the power cord at the wheel base might show the failure.

I remember one odd report with an all metal rig. Somehow a mounted component had a elevated ground. When the rig would flex, it would make a electrical connection to the rest of the frame and cause a short to the wheel base- shutting off the wheel. He insolated the base to his mounting plate with a thin cardboard gasket and rubber washers on the mounting bolts. He never did trace out that ground problem, might have been from his sound system.

IIRC there was a large thread (100+pages) at GT Planet . net regarding the Elite & CSW V1. Mods, repairs and HP motor swaps. It may be worth skimming through for pics of the base in disassembly.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/fanatec-csw-csr-elite-modders-thread-update-february-2014.274631/
Baker 12 ABR 2017 a las 7:50 
Sorry to hijack this thread but
@CarDr, you seem to know abit about these wheels.
I checked that forum but nothing about my problem but you might know.
So I ask.. what might cause me to be losing my wheel tuning presets?

WE have 5 setups and I got to the last one and made a new setting for a new game but then.
Suddenly I lost them all.
All my setting for all 5 presets on the tuning menu are gone.. reset to defaults. :(

Is there a button combo I might have pressed by accident?
Or is this more likely to be a problem with the wheel itself?
Última edición por Baker; 12 ABR 2017 a las 7:54
Ricky Sauce 12 ABR 2017 a las 9:12 
Have you tried a different USB port? The only times I've had issues is with my old motherboard and certain USB ports that were failing due to it being a six year old motherboard...
CarDr 12 ABR 2017 a las 14:27 
@Baker

I believe if you hold the small tuning button next to the LCD down for 5 or 10 seconds, it will erase all 5 stored setups. Check the manual to confirm.

It could be a sticking button, strange that it only happens on #5. Next time it happens, try storing #5 slot only to see if its related to the chip. Have you tried re-flashing the firmware? If this is happening when the wheel is turned, I would look into the wiring harness exiting the back of the steering shaft. Some of those units had a production run with a sharp unfinished edge. Some users were inserting a plastic liner or harness loom to prevent rub thru on the wiring insulation.

You could try Fanetec support, they will need a video of it acting up. Most likely they would ask to send it in and charge for repairs, if they have any needed parts left. They do have independent repair contractors around the world, so you may not have to send it back to the main office. Or try to contact eKretz on GT Planet if he’s still around. Some of those guys have been buying up used and broken wheels for parts.
hybrid461 18 DIC 2017 a las 17:06 
@Schigera Did you ever solve this problem?

Just got my CSL Elite PS4 edition. Updated to the latest firmware and the wheel shuts off after use ranging from 2 - 20 minutes. Happens when using 2 pc and the ps4 itself.

I have an email open with fanatec but looking for things to try that maybe I hadnt thought of.
Arward Enword 18 DIC 2017 a las 18:46 
Publicado originalmente por hybrid461:
@Schigera Did you ever solve this problem?

Just got my CSL Elite PS4 edition. Updated to the latest firmware and the wheel shuts off after use ranging from 2 - 20 minutes. Happens when using 2 pc and the ps4 itself.

I have an email open with fanatec but looking for things to try that maybe I hadnt thought of.
I had to send it in and I got a replacement. I tried everything and couldn't fix it on my own. My new base hasn't had this issue at all.
[HelixxVR] Flag 18 DIC 2017 a las 18:47 
Publicado originalmente por hybrid461:
@Schigera Did you ever solve this problem?

Just got my CSL Elite PS4 edition. Updated to the latest firmware and the wheel shuts off after use ranging from 2 - 20 minutes. Happens when using 2 pc and the ps4 itself.

I have an email open with fanatec but looking for things to try that maybe I hadnt thought of.

Does the blue light on the transformer (Power adapter) stay on or turn off when this happens?

Última edición por [HelixxVR] Flag; 18 DIC 2017 a las 18:48
Baker 18 DIC 2017 a las 19:03 
Publicado originalmente por Flag:
Publicado originalmente por hybrid461:
@Schigera Did you ever solve this problem?

Just got my CSL Elite PS4 edition. Updated to the latest firmware and the wheel shuts off after use ranging from 2 - 20 minutes. Happens when using 2 pc and the ps4 itself.

I have an email open with fanatec but looking for things to try that maybe I hadnt thought of.

Does the blue light on the transformer (Power adapter) stay on or turn off when this happens?

yeah good point. I don't know about the new csl elites but the one I have the power connecting to the adapter is a little touchy. If i move it around even a little it can slip out or disconnect
Última edición por Baker; 18 DIC 2017 a las 19:04
CarDr 18 DIC 2017 a las 22:51 
Here’s an old story of an odd electrical problem I encountered when moving into an old home in the US that had been remodeled/added on to a few times. Installed a BUD satellite TV system and added a second TV in another room using a cable splitter for the antenna inputs. If just the main TV was on, the picture was great. If just the auxiliary TV was on, the picture had some static. If both TV’s were on at the same time, the picture would go dead.

What I found was some of the walls/rooms had outlets that were wired 180* out of phase from the others. I could measure 110V with a volt meter at each outlet, but using an extension cord from one room to another, I could find 220V between the different outlets. I even found this on different walls in the same room. I had to swap some wires in the fuse box to straighten things out.

Testing the different outlets for my sim setup was first on my list.

(BUD- big ugly dish)
hybrid461 19 DIC 2017 a las 14:39 
Publicado originalmente por Baker:
Publicado originalmente por Flag:

Does the blue light on the transformer (Power adapter) stay on or turn off when this happens?

yeah good point. I don't know about the new csl elites but the one I have the power connecting to the adapter is a little touchy. If i move it around even a little it can slip out or disconnect

When I look down at the power brick after the wheel is shut off, there is the blue light still illuminated.
CarDr 19 DIC 2017 a las 16:21 
Sound like an internal problem and should be covered under warranty. If you have the base hard mounted, make sure you have not use bolts that are too long going inside the base. With the wheel powered up, try to wiggle the power cord where it enters the base.

As far as warranty, Fanatec requires a short video of the item failing. I would set up a camera showing the wheel in action, power button and power brick lamp if possible.

edit; also take note of room temp if they need to duplicate the problem in repair shop.
Última edición por CarDr; 19 DIC 2017 a las 16:33
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