Zero steering grip

[mast3rd3mon]

Is it just me that's having an issue with every car not having any grip when steering?

Is it possible to get a refund?

[phillipinpc]

It is possible. I just dont play anymore, I gave up. Used G27 and T300, never could get the low speed understeer out. Tried every config available, tried every suggestion on forums. Also, I would actually not suggest to do what I said with your daily driver as you will be more prone to roll the vehicle over as opposed to understeer in real life. I honestly want to say that perhaps the developers did this to keep people from becoming too advanced from a stand point of shattering lap records in real world racing as it would then seem NOT A TRUE SIM. I dont know. Alot of the problem is not the developers, they have made a great game but for some the understeer at low speed is an issue. The community of AC is the problem. Ive noticed that anyone who complains about this is basically told he is an idiot by the members here, meant to feel like he has a cheap rig or zero knowledge. Heck, from all the bashing people asking for help about the understeer, I didnt post but one question and just stopped playing it. Always watching, hoping for a fix.

[Schandfleck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuhNM5Q9Mg&ab_channel=MaxxUK

[Drisq Kivuli]

Escrito originalmente por Schandfleck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuhNM5Q9Mg&ab_channel=MaxxUK

Is that Bergwerk? The line they are driving seems off a bit. Perhaps there was fluid on the track or something, very strange.

[mast3rd3mon]

Escrito originalmente por phillipinpc:

It is possible. I just dont play anymore, I gave up. Used G27 and T300, never could get the low speed understeer out. Tried every config available, tried every suggestion on forums. Also, I would actually not suggest to do what I said with your daily driver as you will be more prone to roll the vehicle over as opposed to understeer in real life. I honestly want to say that perhaps the developers did this to keep people from becoming too advanced from a stand point of shattering lap records in real world racing as it would then seem NOT A TRUE SIM. I dont know. Alot of the problem is not the developers, they have made a great game but for some the understeer at low speed is an issue. The community of AC is the problem. Ive noticed that anyone who complains about this is basically told he is an idiot by the members here, meant to feel like he has a cheap rig or zero knowledge. Heck, from all the bashing people asking for help about the understeer, I didnt post but one question and just stopped playing it. Always watching, hoping for a fix.

Escrito originalmente por phillipinpc:

Take whatever it is you drive in real life, right now.to a vacant paved lot in dry conditions and go forty MPH and turn full lock with out braking and without accelerating, YANK THE HELL OUT OF TTHE WHEEL. YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTEER AS BAD AS THIS GAME DOES I dont give a rats behind if you have a ford ranger or a minivan or a sports car, the tires arent going to go into a full on skid, YOU WILL TURN and your vehicle wont go completely straight. Several turns in this game are top speed of 45 for alot of the cars in in the game and yet they wont turn, they produce a skidding sound and the vehicle goes straight. This is not reality, it isnt. The model is real for higher speeds , yeah even a sports car will slide at 85mph around a sharp bend but the model is NOT real for lower speeds. This is what has always been the problem with A/C for me. This is why I have low hours playing, the vast majority of hours were simply trying to tune my rig setup and tune the cars setup. Nothing worked. Two complete different wheels and still the same old tell tale low speed understeer. This is my opinion, this is how my experience went with this game. Thats all I can say.

see? im not the only one who understands cars can take corners faster than 10 mph without losing steering grip

[mast3rd3mon]

Escrito originalmente por Schandfleck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuhNM5Q9Mg&ab_channel=MaxxUK

as for the yellow car with "oversteer" he was in a rear wheel drive 500hp+ car which pretty much drifted instead off oversteered

[Mr Crisp]

Escrito originalmente por mast3rd3mon:

Escrito originalmente por phillipinpc:

It is possible. I just dont play anymore, I gave up. Used G27 and T300, never could get the low speed understeer out. Tried every config available, tried every suggestion on forums. Also, I would actually not suggest to do what I said with your daily driver as you will be more prone to roll the vehicle over as opposed to understeer in real life. I honestly want to say that perhaps the developers did this to keep people from becoming too advanced from a stand point of shattering lap records in real world racing as it would then seem NOT A TRUE SIM. I dont know. Alot of the problem is not the developers, they have made a great game but for some the understeer at low speed is an issue. The community of AC is the problem. Ive noticed that anyone who complains about this is basically told he is an idiot by the members here, meant to feel like he has a cheap rig or zero knowledge. Heck, from all the bashing people asking for help about the understeer, I didnt post but one question and just stopped playing it. Always watching, hoping for a fix.

Escrito originalmente por phillipinpc:

Take whatever it is you drive in real life, right now.to a vacant paved lot in dry conditions and go forty MPH and turn full lock with out braking and without accelerating, YANK THE HELL OUT OF TTHE WHEEL. YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTEER AS BAD AS THIS GAME DOES I dont give a rats behind if you have a ford ranger or a minivan or a sports car, the tires arent going to go into a full on skid, YOU WILL TURN and your vehicle wont go completely straight. Several turns in this game are top speed of 45 for alot of the cars in in the game and yet they wont turn, they produce a skidding sound and the vehicle goes straight. This is not reality, it isnt. The model is real for higher speeds , yeah even a sports car will slide at 85mph around a sharp bend but the model is NOT real for lower speeds. This is what has always been the problem with A/C for me. This is why I have low hours playing, the vast majority of hours were simply trying to tune my rig setup and tune the cars setup. Nothing worked. Two complete different wheels and still the same old tell tale low speed understeer. This is my opinion, this is how my experience went with this game. Thats all I can say.

see? im not the only one who understands cars can take corners faster than 10 mph without losing steering grip

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. If you are so sure the cars `can't take corners faster than 10 mph without losing steering grip`- you're not only going to have to show video evidence of such but you're going to have to explain how people are getting such fast times around a track and matching close to real world times.

Please explain and use evidence- don't just throw around hyperbole in the form of `cars can't take corners at 10mph without losing steering grip`- because this is total baloney.

[Manwith Noname]

I get the impression it's a perception thing more than based on any numbers. I was driving the DTM cars around Nurburgring and the hairpin at the bottom of the hill feels slow as anything but I'm still doing 60mph or something.

[[HelixxVR] Flag]

Escrito originalmente por mast3rd3mon:

Escrito originalmente por Schandfleck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuhNM5Q9Mg&ab_channel=MaxxUK

as for the yellow car with "oversteer" he was in a rear wheel drive 500hp+ car which pretty much drifted instead off oversteered

Did you even watch that video? Looked like a clear case of understeer from several cars enterning the corner too fast. Works the same way in AC. If you can't take the time to watch the driving instruction video linked by Crisp - then you are not willing to learn to drive in this sim. That video has been used by thousands of sim racers and has helped most of us hone our skills. You are just being combative and nothing more.

[[HelixxVR] Flag]

Escrito originalmente por mast3rd3mon:

see? im not the only one who understands cars can take corners faster than 10 mph without losing steering grip

having someone in the same room who is as ignorant as you, doesn't constitiute proof.

[Manwith Noname]

Escrito originalmente por Flag1944:

Looked like a clear case of understeer from several cars enterning the corner too fast.

Heh, there's an oil spill....or fluid of some kind.

[quf]

I can take corners at 150kmh and more in Assetto Corsa. But then for other corners I need to slow down to 50-60kmh.
In real life you approach a corner more slowly and have a more gradual braking while on a race track you go from 200 to 60 in a matter for seconds. There's only so much grip the tyres can have for braking and turning, especially if we're talking sport cars.

Just bear in mind that you're going from high speed to low speed in seconds trying to turn on a low angle corner. Most likely you're turning in too soon and too far from the edge of the track. Our perception of distance and speed in the sim tends to be worse compared to real life where you can judge much better the timings.

[javitabara]

Escrito originalmente por mast3rd3mon:

Escrito originalmente por Schandfleck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuhNM5Q9Mg&ab_channel=MaxxUK

as for the yellow car with "oversteer" he was in a rear wheel drive 500hp+ car which pretty much drifted instead off oversteered

THAT is oversteer, when you lose the rear of the car. Drifting is controlled oversteer

[mast3rd3mon]

Escrito originalmente por javitabara:

Escrito originalmente por mast3rd3mon:

as for the yellow car with "oversteer" he was in a rear wheel drive 500hp+ car which pretty much drifted instead off oversteered

THAT is oversteer, when you lose the rear of the car. Drifting is controlled oversteer

no that ISN'T oversteer, its loss of rear wheel traction, most likely from a short burst of acceleration

[HannesJ]

Loss of rear wheel traction, due to which rear end starts to rotate is oversteer. If you dont even know basic terms, you have no right to whine about physics actually being wrong. You only show yourself as dumb.

[Schandfleck]

I know i am feeding the troll but just for the slight possibility that he is just very young and doesn't know better....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwmDdMzzDjY&ab_channel=CarThrottle