I've been thinking about how to start my review for a long time. As a long-time fan of the series who has been playing since Forza Motorsport 2, who has played every game since then (including the Horizon series), who has pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition of every game, and who has invested thousands of hours of playtime in the series, I am at a loss for words.

This is my first Forza that I've played mostly on PC, where I can switch between PC and Series X thanks to Cross Progression.

Turn 10 has promised a lot in the past, the trailers often looked better than the finished games, but never has the gap been as wide as it is with this installment. At no point does the game look even remotely as good as the original trailers, even with the maximum details on PC it doesn't come close to the video footage shown in marketing events.

Visually, the game fluctuates from "quite respectable" to "really bad", the latter especially when a vehicle model appears again somewhere that was copied over from an old game. "From the ground up new" this is not.

The "career mode" is one of the most boring campaigns I've played in the genre, the AI drivers are dumber than ever and the content has been greatly reduced. Fewer tracks, vehicles and features but more bugs than ever. Crashes, disappearing track textures and geometry etc. are part of the game experience here, the list of known bugs is longer than some PhD thesis.

Something must have gone wrong during the long development time. It remains to be seen whether Turn 10 can pull it out of the mud. At this point, I wouldn't recommend the game even to fans.

I have over 500hrs in this game, so I feel that i can give an honest assessment of it at this point, and the YLDR version is this: The only thing "built from the ground up" was the marketing. The game looks, feels, and plays like a half-baked, warmed over refresh of Forza 7- and "refresh" might be giving it too much credit.

Single player is devoid of content, boring, and repetitive.
Online if full of rammers and cheaters.
Peripherals DO NOT work as intended
Visuals are vastly different than the trailers.
Turn10 touts bug fixes like they're some sort of feature, and seem to be in no hurry to render the game into a playable state.
Maybe one day it will be a good racing game, but today ain't that day, and tomorrow ain't looking too good either.

If this wasn't the only game in the Motorsport line on Steam I'm sure we'd all be playing FM4

So, Forza Motorsport gets all the bad reviews and complaints for a lot of reasons, and i initially wasnt going to even bother with it. I figured i'd give it a good old fashioned, open minded try. Heres what i feel as someone whos been playing forza titles since the original forza motorsport way way back on the classic xbox.

The physics are excellent and the racing is great. You can really feel the difference between cars and the upgrades. Cars feel immersive, and in a racing game i feel thats important. The cars just feel good to drive, and the track points system (however forgiving it might be) actually encourages you to do better, and helps you see where your laptimes are suffering. The adjustable AI "Speed" is pretty on point. Maxed out requires you to be perfect. A few notches down from that and you really just have to give it your all. Turn off the assists and try your hardest.

Thats the wonderful thing Forza Motorsport got right. It encourages you to try and enables you to push your skills while giving you an immersive feel and the feedback to do better at each turn.

Unfortunately thats the only real positive thing i have to say about the game. It is an excellent game if you are just playing by yourself, intent on learning each car and trying to push yourself. The rest... where to begin.

Its not the prettiest game in the series for a start. A lot of effort was put into most of the car models (some of them are old models from previous games from what i understand) and the environments, but its pretty hard to balance a realistic look and an over the top pretty look. It falls flat here. Compare it to Horizon 5 or FM7 (yes i know Horizon isnt the same developer, but thats not the point), where you had either extreme and you can see how its just a greyish brown muddling of the two styles. There are other racing games in the same league as Forza motorsport that look FANTASTIC, with the best combination of both worlds as far as looks go. Its disappointing.

The variety as a solo player is awful. Yes, you do have quite a few cars to choose from. Yes, there are quite a few tracks to choose from, but more content =/= more variety. All of the tracks sans the classic nurburgring and de la sarthe are just kind of... plain. They're all pretty similar in length and complexity, a pretty bland course selection. Unless you're a hardcore F1 fan the track selection isnt going to stand out. The previous motorsport games did pretty well to add completely left field fictional tracks to break up the monotony. None such here.

The car selection feels as if its been hit with the "no fun allowed" rule. Lots of popular street machines, lots of historic race machines, but nothing to really break it up. You have 'racing cars' this time around and little else. Sure, the whole premise of Forza Motorsport during its development was to make it a game centered around racing, make you feel immersed with the selection, but this ultimately limits you to doing just that and little else. I say again, more content =/= more variety.

On top of this, there are 'seasonal' events. Content that can be missed, cars that you might not get another chance to get for months depending on what the devs decide to do. Games like Forza Horizon make it feel fun, you can earn your limited time things in one sitting. Gran Turismo is the same deal. Short, quick events with a nice prize at the end. Forza Motorsport has somehow made it feel a chore, with the bland variety of cars the developers have chosen to stick to as your reward.

Furthermore, and i hate to agree with the general public on this, the game really does feel unpolished. Its not the most smooth or fluid game to play, the UI feels a little clunky at times, the load times and performance even on top dollar machines can be a bit sporadic, and for all the attention to detail the game promises you can still catch glimpses here and there where they cut corners to get the game out.

I wouldnt go as far as saying that it plays like its "Unfinished" or its a "Prototype build", but you can tell where their priorities were when developing the game, and those parts are, fortunately (or unfortunately depending on how you feel), fantastic.

Lastly, and probably the thing i dislike most about this game, is the way it comes off to me. From the first minute you start playing you run through the introduction, the opening bout where you chooch along on maple valley raceway just to get a feel, on to an LMP car and then your first series. Theres no... sparkle. Theres nothing to entice you. It doesnt make you feel special. Theres no Stinger. No draw. Nothing that makes you sit back in your seat in awe or anything that hypes you up. It feels like you're supposed to come in knowing what it is and what to expect. Its a Forza Motorsport game for players who played the previous games, people who followed the development of the game and stayed excited for it, riding the name of the franchise and all its history. It just comes across as cold and unwelcoming to new players to the franchise, and lackluster and disheartening to longtime fans.

Would i recommend this game? Sadly not. I want to love it, and im going to play it here and there because of how awesome they got the physics portion down. So unless you're like me where all you want to do is systematically tackle the Nurburgring with every car on the hardest settings with no assists for fun, you are probably not going to enjoy this game.

Its not a bad game. Its just not a good game. And as im sure everyone knows, that means its forgettable.

My recommendation? Pick up Forza Motorsport 7. The physics are still great, it is much more polished and still looks pretty good for its age. The car variety is excellent, the track variety is excellent, the feel and immersion is excellent. Its an enticing game to play. It feels special. It welcomes anyone and everyone to the world of Forza Motorsport and all it has to offer. Its Forza Motorsport but better, and that says a lot.

It has been about 3 months since the game launched, and at this point, I'm confident that it will never be updated into an acceptable state.
First, a couple of good points:
- The driving physics are a welcome step-up from the previous game. It feels tighter, more responsive and more precise.
- They are slowly ironing out bugs. (Okay, so this should be expected, but I had to think of another positive for this game). On release, the game was quite literally unplayable for me. It's... well, *more* stable, now.

And the bad:
- Single player career. Hardly any events, all of which are short sprint-style races. There are no events with set difficulties to challenge myself with.
- AI drivers. They simply can't race properly. I've seen them braking on the apex of a corner, and even on the exit of a corner into a straight. If I overtake on a straight, they sometimes swing out to hit me. I never get the sense of battling with another driver for pole position; it feels very static. The thing is, the AI CAN drive well, when they're alone. It often leads to most of the pack languishing as they constantly brake and refuse to take overtaking opportunities on the first lap, while the car that started first extends a large lead. Combine that with the short races in career mode, and you're in a mad dash to overtake as many cars as possible before you're held back too far by them.
- Progression system. To upgrade your car requires that you drive it. The thing is, it takes hours to fully unlock the upgrades for a single car. Get a new car, you have to go through the same process again. This has knock-on effects for multiplayer and the Rivals time-trial mode, where you won't be competitive until your car is upgraded and tuned.
- Graphics. Sure, there are some nice details, but it's all undermined by a horrible blurriness that I can't get rid of. It seems like there's some shoddy anti-aliasing going on, and there isn't an option to turn it off. Even upping the rendering scale doesn't solve the issue, leaving the game looking weirdly out of focus. It also goes for a washed-out, desaturated look which I personally despise.
- Optimisation. I'm on a 5900X with 32GB RAM and an RX 7800XT. Even with ray tracing off, the game has places that consistently drop below 60FPS. Lowering the graphics further doesn't help, so it seems to be a CPU optimisation issue. For a game like this, consistent smooth performance is key.
- Multiplayer. There's really nothing stopping other players from ramming you and ruining your game. There is a penalty system, but it's inconsistent in the magnitude of penalties, and who it considers to be at fault. I've had races with malicious players, but I've also had races with good, fair players. Multiplayer is limited to 60FPS for 'competitive reasons'.
- Atmosphere. This is a bit subjective, I know, but the game lacks any kind of excitement or character; It just feels rather soulless and corporate.

Overall, I very much regret my purchase. Most of my 'playtime' has been spent trying to figure out how to mitigate blurriness and improve performance. That was when I wasn't replaying events due to game crashes and it not saving my progress. Even now that the game is actually functional, I'm finding it a chore to play. It just isn't fun.

Honestamente? Quem recomenda esse jogo no estado atual está mentindo ou não gosta de jogos de corrida, sério.

Eu paguei 300 reais para que você não tenha que pagar, nem se dê o trabalho de jogar no Gamepass, compre outro simcade, é melhor pra sua sanidade.

5~6 anos de desenvolvimento pra essa porcaria? É um downgrade visual do FH5 forte, consegue ser a mistura de Project Cars com Gran Turismo sem acertar nenhum ponto positivo de nenhum dos rivais, lamentável, a IA te bate e te ignora como se você não estivesse na pista, os upgrades de cada carro são travados através de grinds eternos, e olha que são +500 carros, então dane-se você e sua vida se não tiver tempo pra correr no mínimo 1000 voltas em Spa-Francochamps com cada carro.

É rídiculo, os glitches visuais, a falta de otimização dos renders, até mesmo rodando num conjunto padrão dos dias atuais (Ryzen 5 5600/ AMD 6600XT) e armazenado em um SSDm2 ele continua desaparencedo texturas no meio da corrida. Eu achei que a classificação de skill e safety rate do multiplayer seria algo maneiro, muito pelo contrário, não serve de porcaria nenhuma, muito menos o sistema de punição que não entende AINDA quem é o culpado em caso de colisão e simplesmente sai distribuindo time penalty a rodo pro primeiro que vê,

Singleplayer fraco, campanha sem nenhum apelo, tu corre com carros de cada classe em meia dúzia de pista e aí depois parte pra outra classe, repete, e no fim correr com GT3, GT4, WTCC e LMP1 em provas de longa duração que é bom nada, não tem como ajustar a quantidade de voltas na campanha, dá pra completar as provas sem fazer um pitstop sequer se você souber gerenciar os pneus.

- Os carros da Formula Drift que apareceram nos trailers? Inexistentes.
- Nurburgring Nordscheiffe? Só o circuito de GP, o resto dos 14km meia noite eu te conto.
- Tem carros tipo Lancer Evo VI e Silvia S15 que ainda usam viewmodel de 15 anos atrás, puta absurdo de reciclagem mal feita.
- Menus muito mal feitos, onde que fica o botão de restart? Dentro do menu de Sair.
- Não tem mais os gráficos de dinamômetro, como você sabe qual o RPM ideal pra passar as marchas? Mágica.
- Mecânica de PowerShifting? Removeram "pelo equilíbrio", coloque caixas de marcha de corrida se quiser remover o delay de UM SEGUNDO entre engatar uma marcha e soltar a embreagem.
- Catálogo de carros bizarro, removeram alguns ícones de corrida pra por meia dúzia de treco nada a ver com circuit racing, totalmente sem noção.
- Crashes aleatórios, do nada você aperta um botão aleatório ou abre um menu e o jogo simplesmente fecha de graça.
- Horas pra configurar decentemente um volante (No meu caso, Logitech G29). ou você aprende o que cada slider faz ou fica sem feedback nenhum da pista
- Áudio sem masterização ambiental nenhuma, mesmo jogando com fones Sennheiser HD26.

Enquanto a maioria dos problemas não forem corrigidos eu não vou olhar direito pra essa compra, vou voltar a jogar meu DiRT Rally 2.0 que me divirto mais.

Ah, as três únicas coisas razoavelmente boas são o clima dinâmico, mais opções de fine tuning de suspensão e a física em sí, o resto? Esquece.

É da Turn10 mas tá parecendo obra da EA Games, queria eu que o The Crew Motorfest viesse logo pra Steam depois dessa decepção.

Have played every Forza title since FM2 and huge fan of the series. Highly recommend finding a grey market FM7 copy and waiting for the devs to release content that's clearly being intentionally held back from this game to pad "seasonal" content schedules.

Pros:
+ The 'ground up' physics engine and handling feel noticeably better, if familiar.
+ The weather system is good, but not perfect.
+ The sound design is excellent relative to past Forza titles.

Cons:
- Bizarre car catalog, bizarre removals, bizarre amount of recycled models from 12 years ago.
- Leveling mechanic makes sense but is a forced constraint that ultimately needs tuning.
- The upgrading menu lacks a ton of information, no more dyno charts, no ability to preview sound, no ability to see details/changes at a glance (eg +13hp)
- Did I mentioned the recycled models? This game is the most offensive yet in terms of model inconsistency
- Menu system is awful
- Overall content is about 50% of what it should be

On its strengths alone, the game is legitimately a 7/10, but knowing how many egregious missteps there are, them charging $70-100 for this title means that, at best, it's a 6/10 overall and in terms of sheer value. This is the most disappointing entry for the Forza franchise by a landslide.

This game is evidence that even given the time, Turn 10 Studios is incapable of making anything other than a copy-past Madden-style franchise. The game had more development time than any Forza Motorsport game since the original and they have barely anything to show for it. Just a list of problems that come to mind:

• Almost nothing Chris Esaki promised came to fruition
  
• The graphics are far worse than were shown in trailers
  
• The game is riddled with bugs
  
• There's no effective anticheat online
  
• The game requires you to be online to play the singleplayer career mode
  
• FOMO mechanics requiring you to complete career tours in a certain time period or miss out on exclusive cars
  
• Car models from the Xbox 360 era games
  
• Career mode is even more bare bones than Forza Motorsport 7's
  
• Tracks that were in Forza Motorsport 7 when it launched have been withheld from this game to release as "content updates" at a later date, including iconic tracks such as Daytona and the Nordschleife
  
• AI is somehow worse than previous titles. It struggles to make its way through a chicane if there is another car even remotely close to it.
  
• Race tire compounds were implemented in the most haphazard way and have made race tires severely overpowered compared to other tires because the soft compound is not taken into account for PI calculations
  
• Tire wear modifier in online races, but for some reason cannot be set in other areas of the game
  
• Can't set the starting order in any meaningful way in Free Play: no qualification, no grid seeding, it's either by PI or random.
  
• Updates are only released monthly so no matter how big or small a bug is, it won't be fixed for at least a month (including bugs that make the game literally not launch for some people).
  
• Penalty system is more likely to penalize you for being rammed than for ramming someone
  
• Online skill/safety ratings are entirely meaningless
  
  Yes, I have a lot of hours played because it's a Forza game and we've been desperate for a new Forza Motorsport game for a while now. But if you're not heavily invested into this franchise already like I am, don't bother getting invested now. It's a dying franchise run by incompetent devs who will ban people from their official forums, Discord, etc. for talking negatively about the game calling any sort of criticism "toxicity."
  
  Turn 10 Studios is a joke. Chris Esaki is a clown.

Unsurprisingly NOT built from the ground up.

=======大小=======
☐百兆小游戏
☐ 1-5 G
☐ 5-10 G
☐ 10-20 G
☐ 20-50 G
☐ 50-100 G
✓ 100-200 G
☐ GMOD

=======图像=======
☐ 像素党秒天秒地！
☐ 无法和现实区分
☐ 赏心悦目
☐ 很美丽
✓ 一般
☐ 不怎么样
☐ 别盯着看太久
☐ 画图.exe

=======游戏体验=======
☐ 完美！！！
☐ 不错！
✓ 普普通通
☐ 不怎么样
☐ 盯着墙看都比玩它强
☐ 锻炼你的精神抗打击能力

=======声音效果=======
☐ 耳朵怀孕
☐ 感动人心
✓ 还不错
☐ 一般
☐ 不咋样
☐ 耳朵流产
☐ 音乐？什么音乐？

=======受众群体=======
✓ 儿童
✓ 青少年
✓ 成人

=======配置要求=======
☐ 能玩扫雷的电脑都能玩
☐ 入门配置
☐ 一般配置
☐ 进阶级配置
✓ 发烧级配置
☐ 神威•太湖之光

=======难度=======
☐ 点点点突突突炸炸炸
☐ 轻松愉快
☐ 得动动脑子
✓ 上手快精通难
☐ 烧脑

=======游戏寿命=======
☐ 玩完就退款
☐ 5-10小时
☐ 10-30小时
☐ 30-50小时
☐ 50-100小时
✓ 刷到恶心为止
☐ 我觉得我能比它先去世

=======游戏粘性=======
☐ 可能不会完全通关
☐ 通关一次
☐ 通关2-5次
☐ 通关5-10次
☐ 通关10-20次
☐ 通关20-50次
✓ 通关？刷子游戏通什么关？

=======操作=======
☐ 你家的宠物也能玩
☐ 简单
✓ 中等
☐ 困难
☐ 反人类
☐ 空洞骑士

=======肝=======
☐ 护肝
☐ 如果你想玩出点花样
✓ 肝与不肝并不影响剧情
☐ 每关必肝
☐ 肝痛
☐ 必须24小时全天候地肝

=======肾=======
✓ 护肾
☐ 需要短暂休息了
☐ 需要休息一段时间了
☐ 每关必冲
☐ 肾痛
☐ 一时手冲一时爽，一直手冲一直爽

=======故事情节=======
✓ 故事?什么故事?
☐ 文字或语音剧情
☐ 平庸
☐ 还行
☐ 精彩
☐ 可以作为你的第二人生

=======平均一局游戏时间=======
☐ 办公室必备
☐ 短小精悍
☐ 中等
✓ 较长
☐ 卧槽！天亮了！

=======联机=======
☐ 孤独患者
☐ 你唯一的沙雕网友
✓ 2-5人
☐ 5-10人
☐ 10-30人
☐ 30-64人
☐ 行星边际2

=======语种=======
☐ 你信不信我会八国语言？
☐ 基础英文
☐ 可以打汉化MOD或补丁
✓ 自带汉化！

=======价格=======
☐ 免费游玩!
☐ 业界良心！
☐ 值这个价
☐ 如果你有点闲钱的话可以一试
✓ 不推荐原价入
☐ 信仰无价

=======游戏整体评分=======
☐ 0-10分(垃圾游戏、差评)
☐ 10-30分(完完全全的不及格)
☐ 30-50分(总体不是很和谐，但是买来当笑话看应该不是什么大问题)
✓ 50-65分(勉强及格，算是个游戏)
☐ 65-80分(算是个不错的游戏了)
☐ 80-95分(无论从哪个角度来看都非常不错)
☐ 95-100分(这游戏牛逼！)
☐ 100-100 分(完全超出预定水准，无论从哪方面看都是精品)
☐ ∞分(死忠舔狗专属评分)

=======Bug=======
☐ 几乎没有
☐ 少量
✓ bug令人烦恼
☐ 育碧
☐ 模拟山羊