Career race length is the worst

[spiralyguy]

I could enjoy this game, if it wasn't for the career race length. Overtaking 12 cars in 3 laps is absurd.

Don't get me wrong, it's not that it's too difficult exactly, it's just that you have to race ridiculously aggressive, and you never get into a nice rhythm. If the AI is set to a level where they're just a bit slower than you for a nice competition, you'll never catch up unless you start at the front, and then get no credits....

They add cool tire and fuel options, and they are utterly pointless in career.

If I could just do a nice 30-60 minute race like in Forza 7, this game would be playable.

[clairvoyantwolf]

Go to free play and you can do whatever race length you want.

[Bilstar]

Agreed. Pretty rubbish isn't it

[Derik-For-Real]

Originally posted by spiralyguy:

I could enjoy this game, if it wasn't for the career race length. Overtaking 12 cars in 3 laps is absurd.

Don't get me wrong, it's not that it's too difficult exactly, it's just that you have to race ridiculously aggressive, and you never get into a nice rhythm. If the AI is set to a level where they're just a bit slower than you for a nice competition, you'll never catch up unless you start at the front, and then get no credits....

They add cool tire and fuel options, and they are utterly pointless in career.

If I could just do a nice 30-60 minute race like in Forza 7, this game would be playable.

Thats a fair point, I mean it should not be too hard to allow the player to adjust however he desires to play career mode. There should absolutely be a feature to adjust career mode completely, I also hate the fact that you cant choose your preferred race time or weather condition, this should absolutely not be restrictive.

I just cant enjoy career mode because of these factors above. They should give us freedom to play career mode in way where we can tweak time of day, weather condition nd number of laps.

[clairvoyantwolf]

Originally posted by Derik-For-Real:

They should give us freedom to play career mode in way where we can tweak time of day, weather condition nd number of laps.

They do, it's called free play. Frankly this is a self imposed problem. Set the difficulty to as easy as you can bear for the career and unlock the cars. Then actually race with your preferred settings with whatever car and track you like in free play.

Some of the things you guys complain about are ridiculous.

[clairvoyantwolf]

Originally posted by Derik-For-Real:

Originally posted by clairvoyantwolf:

They do, it's called free play. Frankly this is a self imposed problem. Set the difficulty to as easy as you can bear for the career and unlock the cars. Then actually race with your preferred settings with whatever car and track you like in free play.

Some of the things you guys complain about are ridiculous.

Ignorant nd incompetent piece of ♥♥♥♥, We talking about Career mode, nd your talking about Free Play which gives you complete control of the entire race, such as car typ nd number of cars, tracks nd more. IN career mode you dont have such level of controll which is absolutely fine, but it restricts you to have controll over number of laps nd date of time nd weather.

You deserve to be banned from here, cuz your argument does not apply here from critical perspective, nd you just did this for the second time.

I am talking about career mode. Any race in career mode can be duplicated as a 12hr enduro if you please. The only real reason to play career is to unlock the cars. Win the cars, get career over with then do whatever you want.

[Torg Smith]

They need to keep the career races short due to the bugs. Once they get those resolved, then longer races will be doable.

[Nimir-Raj]

Career has always been this way in the FM series. An aggressive bashfest to the front, disregarding all racing etiquette (and frankly fun) in favour of short stints to unlock things and grind up the XP/Cash.

I've played most of the FM series since the original and have longed for, but never received a good career mode experience. While the layout of FM7 was good, it too suffered from the too short of a race issue.

It really is a shame that T10 continually ignore what people have been asking for for nearly two decades. Yes you can always recreate a race and/or series in free play, but that completely misses the point. Career should be a mode that gives a feeling of, well, a career. 2 to 3 lap races is not it. Some people might be content with that, most are not.

I'm not asking for 100% race length here, I'd settle for 10 laps as the minimum. Or better yet just give us the option on a per series basis.

[spiralyguy]

Originally posted by Nimir-Raj:

Career has always been this way in the FM series. An aggressive bashfest to the front, disregarding all racing etiquette (and frankly fun) in favour of short stints to unlock things and grind up the XP/Cash.

I've played most of the FM series since the original and have longed for, but never received a good career mode experience. While the layout of FM7 was good, it too suffered from the too short of a race issue.

Forza 7 career mode had a length option, on longest races were usually 30-60 minutes.

Originally posted by clairvoyantwolf:

They do, it's called free play. Frankly this is a self imposed problem. Set the difficulty to as easy as you can bear for the career and unlock the cars. Then actually race with your preferred settings with whatever car and track you like in free play.

Some of the things you guys complain about are ridiculous.

The biggest problem with free play is starting position. It seems you have two options, order by PI (or reverse PI) or random order, all of which are unsatisfactory. I also generally like the setups they have in career, cars, tracks, etc, They often come up with things I wouldn't think of. I guess I could try to recreate it in free play, pretty tedious compared to just choosing a race length. There also doesn't appear to be the option of a full weekend, the 10 minutes of practice before the race I personally like. I used to do test drive in Forza 7 for a couple laps before the race, but now on freeplay your only option is start the race.

Why are you so defensive about this?

[clairvoyantwolf]

Originally posted by spiralyguy:

The biggest problem with free play is starting position. It seems you have two options, order by PI (or reverse PI) or random order, all of which are unsatisfactory.

I can agree with this.

I also generally like the setups they have in career, cars, tracks, etc, They often come up with things I wouldn't think of. I guess I could try to recreate it in free play, pretty tedious compared to just choosing a race length.

This is approaching the self imposed problem I mentioned. It’s like complaining that you have to cook your favorite dish instead of going to a restaurant and having it prepared for you.

There also doesn't appear to be the option of a full weekend, the 10 minutes of practice before the race I personally like. I used to do test drive in Forza 7 for a couple laps before the race, but now on freeplay your only option is start the race.

No Forza has a full race weekend and probably never will. That’s not its point. They added a skippable practice session for career mode and players immediately complained about it.

Anyway, if you want to simulate a race weekend there is nothing stopping you from setting a timed event with staggered roll off to simulate practice. Have the race. Then run a single lap event after to simulate a victory lap. After that you can stand on a pile of pillows to simulate a podium and you can even spray your spouse, pets, or children with your favorite beverage for added effect.

Why are you so defensive about this?

Nah, as should be obvious by the tail end of my last comment, I have fun here.

[Staquix]

They should set it up like free play quick race. They have a long-medium-short selection for a quick start. They could add that to options>gameplay>career race length and that would be perfect. IMO.

[Sixgun]

Originally posted by Staquix:

They should set it up like free play quick race. They have a long-medium-short selection for a quick start. They could add that to options>gameplay>career race length and that would be perfect. IMO.

This^

[Moga CMDR]

Originally posted by clairvoyantwolf:

Go to free play and you can do whatever race length you want.

Yeah, I completely ignore career. It's not really salvageable at this point.

[teraus]

career is he only part of forza that i play and to me its great and so much fun.
the race lenth is just fine. I can understand people wanting to increase it to up the difficulty and race with more realism, i think it will come with a future update.
just changing the subject a bit can anyone tell me why when i start the game the mouse in the game menus sometimes dont work is this an ongoing bug.

[Malygos]

Originally posted by Nimir-Raj:

Career has always been this way in the FM series. An aggressive bashfest to the front, disregarding all racing etiquette (and frankly fun) in favour of short stints to unlock things and grind up the XP/Cash.

I've played most of the FM series since the original and have longed for, but never received a good career mode experience. While the layout of FM7 was good, it too suffered from the too short of a race issue.

It really is a shame that T10 continually ignore what people have been asking for for nearly two decades. Yes you can always recreate a race and/or series in free play, but that completely misses the point. Career should be a mode that gives a feeling of, well, a career. 2 to 3 lap races is not it. Some people might be content with that, most are not.

I'm not asking for 100% race length here, I'd settle for 10 laps as the minimum. Or better yet just give us the option on a per series basis.

This guy is right this is how forza has always been even the original games I’ve played them all. The problem is the penalty system is way too aggressive in this you get bumped by someone from behind and get 2.5 seconds worth of penalties for not conceding. Absolutely ridiculous to expect me to concede to someone that had to rear end me at 75mph to get around me. It’s ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[clairvoyantwolf]

Originally posted by Malygos:

The problem is the penalty system is way too aggressive in this you get bumped by someone from behind and get 2.5 seconds worth of penalties for not conceding. Absolutely ridiculous to expect me to concede to someone that had to rear end me at 75mph to get around me. It’s ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Lightly tap someone else. In multiple instances of the same penalty the system seems to get confused and issues no penalty. To get a 2.5 sec penalty, in my experience, that means you hit the other car hard enough to either drive them off the track or make them spin out.