CAN'T PASS FIRST SPLASH SCREEN FIX FOR RX580

[LoanZ]

I'm using a RX 580, since update 1.0 -2.0 i racked up about 441 hours of playtime... but since update 3.0 i’ve not been able to launch the game. and update 5.0 just give me an error code ( Unsupported graphics card detected code AP205 ) Failed to create D3D12 Graphics device… can’t even get a refund because i have 441 hours playtime...

(FIX)

This is what the forza support team said to me over the weekend....

Hello,

We're looking into this issue.
Can you try rollback your AMD drivers to version 23.10.01.14.

https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-MS-AGILITY-SDK-2023-6-711.html

Please let us know if this works for you.

Forza Support Team


this worked for me, you have to scroll down to see the below text then click the blue writing that says AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 23.10.01.14 for DirectX®12 Agility SDK Driver Version for Windows® 10 and Windows® 11 then the driver will start downloading. i used the amd clean up tool to remove my old drivers first..


The AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 23.10.01.14 for DirectX®12 Agility SDK installation package can be downloaded from the following link:

By clicking the Download button, you are confirming that you have read and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of the End User License Agreement (“EULA”). If you do not agree to the terms and conditions of these licenses, you do not have a license to any of the AMD software provided by this download.

AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 23.10.01.14 for DirectX®12 Agility SDK Driver Version for Windows® 10 and Windows® 11


been playing online with no issues :D

[LoanZ]

Originally posted by Mexicola9302:

The problem you ppl are having is that the game now needs hardware level DX12_1 instead of DX12_0. All the complaining and whining won't help.

Check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_levels_in_Direct3D

RX 400 and RX 500 series is not supported anymore.

thanks for the reply captain obvious.. we all know why we cant launch the game, we've known for 2 months now and you come in here saying about us complaining and whining when i see you crying over 15fps LMFAO STFU talk about contradict yourself.. the reason why we complain is because we paid for a game played it for 2 months and now have been locked out of it,, had over 400 hours hitting 70fps in 1080p game was running smooth. my gpu could run it... the dev's changed the DX driver 3 months after the game was released. if the game was released with DX12-1 then i'd understand and that would be the end of that.. so in other words we have been scammed.. if i was losing 15fps you wouldn't see me writing in forums crying about it :L have a good day sir

[theaviator]

Originally posted by Mexicola9302:

Originally posted by ralexr1:

Steam Deck soporta dx12_1 y no arranca.

https://global.discourse-cdn.com/forza/original/4X/b/e/d/bed7923cc637ae51e9fdd141cebb8314c2d1e338.png

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/21425361544211-Forza-Motorsport-PC-Specs

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/360007593074-My-Game-is-Not-Launching-or-is-Crashing-on-PC

"If you get an error message when launching that says "Failed to create D3D12 graphics device" or "Unsupported graphics card detected (Code: AP205)" then that is an indication that your graphics device is below min specs

There is a check for GPU support of D3D12 Enhanced Barrier feature on application startup. Error code AP205 corresponds to detected lack of support."

The interesting thing is that the steam deck actually supports D3D12 Enhanced Barriers because it's an RDNA2 GPU. Same generation as the RX6000 range.

It's just a bug they're unwilling to investigate. In fact you look at the patch notes for Patch 6 there is literally almost nothing at all for PC in general, despite terrible performance generally when compared to previous Forza titles.

[The Met4l God]

Originally posted by theaviator:

Originally posted by Mexicola9302:

https://global.discourse-cdn.com/forza/original/4X/b/e/d/bed7923cc637ae51e9fdd141cebb8314c2d1e338.png

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/21425361544211-Forza-Motorsport-PC-Specs

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/360007593074-My-Game-is-Not-Launching-or-is-Crashing-on-PC

"If you get an error message when launching that says "Failed to create D3D12 graphics device" or "Unsupported graphics card detected (Code: AP205)" then that is an indication that your graphics device is below min specs

There is a check for GPU support of D3D12 Enhanced Barrier feature on application startup. Error code AP205 corresponds to detected lack of support."

The interesting thing is that the steam deck actually supports D3D12 Enhanced Barriers because it's an RDNA2 GPU. Same generation as the RX6000 range.

It's just a bug they're unwilling to investigate. In fact you look at the patch notes for Patch 6 there is literally almost nothing at all for PC in general, despite terrible performance generally when compared to previous Forza titles.

Is it a bug or just that they don't want to support a particular GPU? For ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles, I tried to run an old copy of Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 I had a few months ago and the installation process it spit the disc back out because the GPU wasn't on their hardcoded list of supported GPUs.

StarCraft 2 (Wings of Liberty) also did this when we were trying to determine if the disc was off balance. I put it into my laptop that had 512 MB RAM and it immediately said "your system sucks" and spit the disc back out lol.

[The Met4l God]

Originally posted by Ronnie Pickering:

Originally posted by Mexicola9302:

The problem you ppl are having is that the game now needs hardware level DX12_1 instead of DX12_0. All the complaining and whining won't help.

Check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_levels_in_Direct3D

RX 400 and RX 500 series is not supported anymore.

thanks for the reply captain obvious.. we all know why we cant launch the game, we've known for 2 months now and you come in here saying about us complaining and whining when i see you crying over 15fps LMFAO STFU talk about contradict yourself.. the reason why we complain is because we paid for a game played it for 2 months and now have been locked out of it,, had over 400 hours hitting 70fps in 1080p game was running smooth. my gpu could run it... the dev's changed the DX driver 3 months after the game was released. if the game was released with DX12-1 then i'd understand and that would be the end of that.. so in other words we have been scammed.. if i was losing 15fps you wouldn't see me writing in forums crying about it :L have a good day sir :bleach::deadrat:

I wish people would stop saying they got scammed. You didn't get scammed if you were able to play for 400 hours.

What happened was a developer oversight in that a change was made resulting in a narrowing of the player access. Though, if the Wikipedia page is accurate, just how old is your GPU? A GTX 1080 can support DX12.1.

If you want a used GTX 1080, I'll sell you mine for $200

[BuickLord]

Everybody in this situation was scammed ("The Met4l God"), what about the people like myself who were only able to get in 29 hours of game play and 2 hours of entering the game hoping it would start after ever "bug fix" and update. Our Radeon cards are still very much supported by every proper developer, Microsoft and Turn Ten aren't proper developers. Those who bought the game were lied too, tricked into paying (some of us even went for the $100 version) allowed to play, then after a while after release kicked out a little while after the return window. Your GTX 1080 came out a year before my RX 580 (which came out in 2017) Even the RX 400 series cards came out a month after release of the GTX 1080. Our encountered problems are with the 400 and 500 series cards. So we clearly aren't the problem and people that think that this isn't a problem are something entirely different.

[Mexicola9302]

Maybe ppl shouldn't try to play games with 6-7 year old GPU's, at some point you gotta upgrade your rig anyway. I mean you can skip one or two generations but it should never be 3 generations or more.

[The Met4l God]

Originally posted by BuickLord:

Everybody in this situation was scammed ("The Met4l God"), what about the people like myself who were only able to get in 29 hours of game play and 2 hours of entering the game hoping it would start after ever "bug fix" and update. Our Radeon cards are still very much supported by every proper developer, Microsoft and Turn Ten aren't proper developers. Those who bought the game were lied too, tricked into paying (some of us even went for the $100 version) allowed to play, then after a while after release kicked out a little while after the return window. Your GTX 1080 came out a year before my RX 580 (which came out in 2017) Even the RX 400 series cards came out a month after release of the GTX 1080. Our encountered problems are with the 400 and 500 series cards. So we clearly aren't the problem and people that think that this isn't a problem are something entirely different.

I don't understand why you would try to play a game from 2023 on a GPU from 2017. My general experience has been if you want a consistent performance for the quality, you got the swap the GPU out about every 2 years.

All I'm going to say is that if dropping in a newer GPU fixes the issue, I don't think that's a bug. While you didn't hit this number, I generally feel like I got my money's worth with a time to price ratio of 40 minutes played per dollar spent (40 hours per $60).

In looking at the benchmark scores between the GTX 1080 and RX 580, your RX 580 is a piece of junk. You could get an Intel Arc A580 and it'll be better than it. However, it's dirt cheap so I guess it's whatever.

[Scintilla]

How much money did microsoft pay you to defend them? A computer with 6750xt and dx12.1 , latest gpu driver installed can't launch the game, any clue, professors? Or are you saying that a 6750xt doesn't meet your "minimum requirement"?

[The Met4l God]

Originally posted by Scintilla:

How much money did microsoft pay you to defend them? A computer with 6750xt and dx12.1 , latest gpu driver installed can't launch the game, any clue, professors? Or are you saying that a 6750xt doesn't meet your "minimum requirement"?

Easy, it's an AMD GPU

I really can't answer that, but I do know AMD has a history of issues with games. But, of course, it can also just be a poorly coded/optimized game. I personally am leaning that way due to the underwhelming graphics at the Medium level.

However, if you're trying to play a game that makes a GPU from 2023 struggle with a GPU from 2017 and expect great things I think you're expectations are too high.

[ju1.]

Originally posted by The Met4l God:

Originally posted by Scintilla:

How much money did microsoft pay you to defend them? A computer with 6750xt and dx12.1 , latest gpu driver installed can't launch the game, any clue, professors? Or are you saying that a 6750xt doesn't meet your "minimum requirement"?

Easy, it's an AMD GPU

I really can't answer that, but I do know AMD has a history of issues with games. But, of course, it can also just be a poorly coded/optimized game. I personally am leaning that way due to the underwhelming graphics at the Medium level.

However, if you're trying to play a game that makes a GPU from 2023 struggle with a GPU from 2017 and expect great things I think you're expectations are too high.

man u....., i played with rx580 this game, i dont care about benchmark scores, i played this game from start, NOW I CANT EVEN LAUNCH, thats the problem, and dont say me anything about benchmark scores

[The Met4l God]

Originally posted by ju1KNGF:

Originally posted by The Met4l God:

Easy, it's an AMD GPU

I really can't answer that, but I do know AMD has a history of issues with games. But, of course, it can also just be a poorly coded/optimized game. I personally am leaning that way due to the underwhelming graphics at the Medium level.

However, if you're trying to play a game that makes a GPU from 2023 struggle with a GPU from 2017 and expect great things I think you're expectations are too high.

man u....., i played with rx580 this game, i dont care about benchmark scores, i played this game from start, NOW I CANT EVEN LAUNCH, thats the problem, and dont say me anything about benchmark scores

But the benchmark scores

[Fryske Sergeant]

I have a 3070 (T)urbo (I)njection and my game also wont start since update 3.0 just like the guys with the RX580

Turn 10

[The Met4l God]

Originally posted by Fryske Sergeant:

I have a 3070 (T)urbo (I)njection and my game also wont start since update 3.0 just like the guys with the RX580

Turn 10

I know I'm just one data point, but the game runs for me (just booted it up to download the gift cars) and I'm using a 3070Ti. Driver 551.76 if it matters.

[BuickLord]

The expectation is if a game launches saying it will work and it does it will continue to work for several months even past the return window. then it doesn't, so by the logic that the developer narrowed the supported devices it would go to figure that the Xbox Series S can't run the game, and by the logic that the developer can choose what systems aren't supported because of what ever feeling, I feel the 3070 TI suddenly can't run windows. Ever one say that you were scammed because Windows worked before with the 3070 TI. So when it comes to a still very popular graphics card like the RX580 being denied. Look at the steam hardware survey although quite a few of these cards are NVIDIA piles, you will see quite a few cards that are older, less powerful and quite a large quantity of which supported Direct X 12 that suddenly can't play their games because of feeling. All I want is a game that runs, it could run, I don't care if future updates mean it can only run at 720p 30fps. The point is scammers, Microsoft could have actually optimized the game, they could have 2 different versions for Direct X like Fortnite or many of the other games that have that feature
ALSO TO YOUR PRIOR COMMENT ON THE COST OF DIRT, IT IS QUITE MORE EXPENSIVE THEN ONE MAY ACTUALLY THINK. SO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT DIRT IS, GRASS AND CORN GROW IN IT, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TOUCH SOME.

[The Met4l God]

Originally posted by BuickLord:

The expectation is if a game launches saying it will work and it does it will continue to work for several months even past the return window. then it doesn't, so by the logic that the developer narrowed the supported devices it would go to figure that the Xbox Series S can't run the game, and by the logic that the developer can choose what systems aren't supported because of what ever feeling, I feel the 3070 TI suddenly can't run windows. Ever one say that you were scammed because Windows worked before with the 3070 TI. So when it comes to a still very popular graphics card like the RX580 being denied. Look at the steam hardware survey although quite a few of these cards are NVIDIA piles, you will see quite a few cards that are older, less powerful and quite a large quantity of which supported Direct X 12 that suddenly can't play their games because of feeling. All I want is a game that runs, it could run, I don't care if future updates mean it can only run at 720p 30fps. The point is scammers, Microsoft could have actually optimized the game, they could have 2 different versions for Direct X like Fortnite or many of the other games that have that feature
ALSO TO YOUR PRIOR COMMENT ON THE COST OF DIRT, IT IS QUITE MORE EXPENSIVE THEN ONE MAY ACTUALLY THINK. SO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT DIRT IS, GRASS AND CORN GROW IN IT, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TOUCH SOME.

I disagree with this definition of being scammed, but if I prescribe to this definition then Microsoft scammed me by not allowing some low-end laptop I bought with Win 10 on it be upgraded to Win 11 due to some arbitrary specifications. To that I just said screw it and installed Linux on it. Now it works fine and I can continue to use it without worrying about unpatched security issues.

To me getting scammed is buying a game, it didn't work as promised, the developer closed up shop, and you couldn't get your money back.

With everything being SaaS (and/or Live Service), you might as well just stop buying software because it will all stop functioning eventually once they decommission the authentication servers. I don't agree with the SaaS model as it's milking me for money, but the older I get the less ♥♥♥♥♥ I give and have other things to worry about. If pushed hard enough I'll just use open-source or cheaper alternatives that are good enough.

Though the software bit, is more arguing the fallacy of thinking we own what we are buying when in fact we are just paying for the privilege to use the software. Unless you're using some "Copyleft" licensed open-source software, you don't own anything.

Edit: Keep clowning me, more steam shop points for me.