Its official Turn10 are incompetent programmers.

[GrOCam]

Appart from them, No game crashes, every product every bit of a game day one. but there are 2 games who caused me a enormous list of issues in 20 years those are Forza Motorsport 7 and 8.
Free play ? crash
Career ? end practice? crash, the infinite white spinning wheel, on loop mode. for minutes.

They ve decided to say no to PC, like in FM7 and no lessons are learned, they dont test their product ? where are the beta testers ? is there something we are not supposed to know, behind the scenes ?

(Im not blaming community managers and bug reporters, best of luck to you mates)

[Mexicola9302]

Maybe they had to rush the game out, there must also be a reason they offered more paid cars DLC's in Forza Horizon 5 that are not included in the car pass. Maybe this all has financial reasons, i wouldn't blame the devs themselves but the publishers. It's always the publishers.

[Matts]

Сareer tracks are not counted when the game freezes after 2-3 races, this is the most pathetic crap I've ever seen, it's like the connection to the server is lost

[Viking2121]

Your finding this out now? I love Forza, but yeah they are pretty bad when it comes to some things, I still can't get over how bad the AI still is lol.

[GrOCam]

Originally posted by Mexicola9302:

, i wouldn't blame the devs themselves but the publishers. It's always the publishers.

Yes Im sorry, that may be true, in that case they could tinker the PC port and do a later release for 2024, but with the xbox/microsoft store policy game releases the same time.

But there is a counter argument towards this, Forza horizon 3 was terrible on PC, but FH4 and FH5 fixed this issue with a decent/solid PC port on day one, later issues were due to connectivity to xbox account, where both FM7 and FM8 had a desastrous launch.

[Seoul]

Originally posted by Viking2121:

Your finding this out now? I love Forza, but yeah they are pretty bad when it comes to some things, I still can't get over how bad the AI still is lol.

they ram you out of nowhere its just soo stupid + all the bugs and the lack of singleplayer content. at least multiplayer and car physic is good

[VIT]

Originally posted by Mexicola9302:

Maybe they had to rush the game out.

There's really no need for them to rush anything. They've had a whole 6 years, and if we assume they're copying about 80% from FH5 and FM7, the expectation is a game that's not just polished but brimming with content, easily doubling what we saw in FM7. However, it's become apparent that they may be lacking the necessary skills and experience to pull this off. At this point, it seems like Microsoft needs to step in and reassign the team from Playground Games to sort out this entire debacle. Brace yourselves; it's going to be a lengthy process...

[GrOCam]

Well stopping tinkering your graphics settings sorta solve the crashes, I just tend to avoid freeplay. game is stable now on all on low performance target : 60fps without the V-Synch (so real 60fps, even if you'have a 144hz or 75hz), no stuttering and mostly running at 60fps 1080p with 24 AI, rain etc..
specs : i5-4690k (8 years old) GPU 1660ti (GTX 1070 like)

[Mexicola9302]

Originally posted by GrOCam:

Originally posted by Mexicola9302:

, i wouldn't blame the devs themselves but the publishers. It's always the publishers.

Yes Im sorry, that may be true, in that case they could tinker the PC port and do a later release for 2024, but with the xbox/microsoft store policy game releases the same time.

But there is a counter argument towards this, Forza horizon 3 was terrible on PC, but FH4 and FH5 fixed this issue with a decent/solid PC port on day one, later issues were due to connectivity to xbox account, where both FM7 and FM8 had a desastrous launch.

FH4 was almost a perfect game at release that is true, but FH5 had it's issues. If i remember correctly in FH5 the Antialiasing barely worked after release and there wasn't any DLSS or FSR, or there was but both didn't do anything just like it is now in FM2023. It was one of both, so yeah FH5 also wasn't perfect. But they fixed these small issues in FH5 pretty quickly.

I hope the worst the terrible CPU performance and that DLSS barely works is very high on their to do list. The game is so horrible CPU limited that it hurts, i mean i still get 80 FPS but that just can't be right, if i can get 120 FPS in FH5 that is an open world game. The first CPU core is just hammered there is like 0 optimization for multithreading. FH3 had the exact same issue in 2016, then they released a multithreading patch or whatever they called it, then the game ran buttersmooth. I hope it doesn't take months like it did for FH3 back in the day. It just doesn't feel right how the game runs atm.

[AmR]

Originally posted by GrOCam:

Appart from them, No game crashes, every product every bit of a game day one. but there are 2 games who caused me a enormous list of issues in 20 years those are Forza Motorsport 7 and 8.
Free play ? crash
Career ? end practice? crash, the infinite white spinning wheel, on loop mode. for minutes.

They ve decided to say no to PC, like in FM7 and no lessons are learned, they dont test their product ? where are the beta testers ? is there something we are not supposed to know, behind the scenes ?

(Im not blaming community managers and bug reporters, best of luck to you mates)

You must not have tried MS Flight Simulator 2020 at launch, lol.

[Rasluka]

Originally posted by Andre M.R.:

Originally posted by GrOCam:

Appart from them, No game crashes, every product every bit of a game day one. but there are 2 games who caused me a enormous list of issues in 20 years those are Forza Motorsport 7 and 8.
Free play ? crash
Career ? end practice? crash, the infinite white spinning wheel, on loop mode. for minutes.

They ve decided to say no to PC, like in FM7 and no lessons are learned, they dont test their product ? where are the beta testers ? is there something we are not supposed to know, behind the scenes ?

(Im not blaming community managers and bug reporters, best of luck to you mates)

You must not have tried MS Flight Simulator 2020 at launch, lol.

At launch? they're still managing to break new things with every update lol

[AmR]

Originally posted by Rasluka:

Originally posted by Andre M.R.:

You must not have tried MS Flight Simulator 2020 at launch, lol.

At launch? they're still managing to break new things with every update lol

😱

[Eden Monroe RWR]

Originally posted by Viking2121:

Your finding this out now? I love Forza, but yeah they are pretty bad when it comes to some things, I still can't get over how bad the AI still is lol.

yes, some getting it now as me also, i like how you wrote it Lol

xD

[Azael]

Basically nothing in this game looks or feels like an improvement over previous instalments. The AI is still utterly moronic and prone to the exact same set of problems they've had for 15 years.
Graphically, it's as groundbreaking as an upside-down shovel.
Progression still feels as wrong as it has since Forza 6, no sense of working your way from the ground up.
The bonus practice lap times are so wildly random, I've experienced 5> second requirement differences in the same race after rebooting the game. Not to mention some of the expected times are actually impossible. 44 Seconds on Eaglerock in a stock Integra, uwot.
The physics doesn't feel much different at all tbh. You can feel the transitional weight in corners a bit more, but otherwise it still feels like Forza.
I'd say the only thing they rebuilt from the ground up was their wall of lies