"bUiLt fRoM tHe gRoUnD uP"

[that wasn't "Cash Money" of you]

After 6 years this is what we get.... how could they have gone so wrong. Given the crazy long list of know issues they have, why aren't they discussing a patch release schedule or acknowledging the misleading advertising campaign they led to trick people into thinking the game looked better then the shipping product only afew months ago.

Will they ever fix graphical quality? Clearly something is wrong - either lighting or paint rendering or something. There is no way they looked at the visuals of this game and thought it was on par with their competition.

"bUiLt fRoM tHe gRoUnD uP" - What a joke.

[AttilaTheHoon]

no, they wont ever fix it, Turn 10 is one of the laziest devs ever, they deserve all the ♥♥♥♥ they get honestly...but at the end of the day no one gives a ♥♥♥♥ because microsoft shoved the money up their butts already in forefront and they gonna bring games after games with most minimal effort put into...

[aK]

Money and milking idiots. Most of you fall for it anyway. It's a reflection of the average consumer. The more you stick your nose into the rear end of anything, the more they will take advantage of you. It's a life global concept. Not only for gaming, pretty much anything related to the consumer and products.

This is why when ever you come across anyone that shills for anything, you need to question them till the point they get uncomfortable.

[that wasn't "Cash Money" of you]

im my defense, i tried to get a refund but steam wouldn't let me cause play time exceeded 2 hrs

[Spawn of Apathy]

I feel like "built from the ground up" should have had so many *s next to it. It's pure marketing BS. No way they threw out the entire engine and started over from line 1. Nor do I believe they threw out all their assets and made new ones. All the car models are not of the same fidelity. That could be the result of spending more time on some cars than others, but I'm betting that it's more to do with some car models coming from older games. Especially the cars that look lower poly and don't have modeled and exploreable engine bays.

My biggest take away when they used that line was I knew the car and track lists were about to get cut down significantly. It's the same BS they fed us with FM5, but at least there it was easier to see the jump in fidelity of the entire game.

Nothing about FM jumps out as "yes, this is running on 6 year's newer worth of tech and took longer to make than FM7".

[Mexicola9302]

"bUiLt fRoM tHe cOrE oF tHe EaRth uP"

[Staquix]

"Manipulated from Horizon 3 up" There is no two way's about it we were lied to. Worst part is there are bug's in this game that shipped with Horizon 3 that still are not fixed. Don't get me wrong I'm enjoying the game but these "ground up" claims are pure cow patties.

[Mexicola9302]

But seriously the game looks better on my system than FM7 did/still does. It also runs better, but still poor if you compare the hardware from 2018 to 2023. It's still completely CPU limited, but with 2020-2023 hardware this time. So it's even more outdated.

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Bottom line game runs like garbage.

[Tomcat]

Can they now disable the 60-72 FPS limit in online multiplayer already? There is everything but cleanliness and competitiveness... the main reason of why this limit has been put in place for PC players.

The license system doesn't work at all and the matchmaking is a bad joke so just disable the FPS limit already, your game has failed with his purpose, atleast let us PC players play normally.

Not even the FPS limit its good implemented... the only thing it does its half your FPS depending on the max refresh rate of your monitor, for example if you have an 144hz monitor, your FPS will be limited to 72, if you have an 240hz one, your FPS will be limited 120 etc.

[Viking2121]

Yeah Turn 10 fixing things, yeah..... Maybe at a snails pace if they actually fix things

[GrOCam]

IT is actually build from the ground up, its a demanding title the first in the series. new physics new rules and since the very first FM.
Adapt.

[Viking2121]

Originally posted by GrOCam:

IT is actually build from the ground up, its a demanding title the first in the series. new physics new rules and since the very first FM.
Adapt.

Yeah? sure bud, Demanding, a titles that doesn't know how to use your hardware is demanding, I have not yet seen this game use more than 80% of my 3090ti at 200% res scale. at 100% the game uses less than 50% of my GPU, and CPU sits around 30 - 40% 5900x. Yeah problems built from the ground up thats for sure. Game is broken, not demanding.

[Moga CMDR]

Originally posted by GrOCam:

Adapt./s

[GrOCam]

Originally posted by Viking2121:

Originally posted by GrOCam:

IT is actually build from the ground up, its a demanding title the first in the series. new physics new rules and since the very first FM.
Adapt.

Yeah? sure bud, Demanding, a titles that doesn't know how to use your hardware is demanding, I have not yet seen this game use more than 80% of my 3090ti at 200% res scale. at 100% the game uses less than 50% of my GPU, and CPU sits around 30 - 40% 5900x. Yeah problems built from the ground up thats for sure. Game is broken, not demanding.

Ok saying "demanding" is a bit confusing, yeah its a real mess in terms of PC port, when I mean that its considering changing the driving habit, having to fine tune your car and it's setup, well it was not unknown to forza but it was not pretty required, especially in single player, now tire management puts you on more complex situations where you have to go about fuel economy, tire wear economy in order to have the most efficient racing possible. it's refreshing its good, it tackles the sim mob and thats the first time in Forza history so yeah, the principle of this series is rebooted,

Hence the "build from the ground up" not in terms of car models and all.. it was essentially for the driving model and game design idea,.

[Chelle]

Look, the truth is hard for many to accept.
The ones that pre-ordered and the ones we have so many times exclaimed '' don't.''
Matters not.
To learn one must sometimes feel the pain. To accommodate repeating it over and over is literal madness.
Yet, too few lessons of hard knocks have yet to be learned by the majority of youth.

In time they shall understand what we older generations keep on telling them.

Eventually in the glory of time they shall also age.
The coin then long dropped they will be the ones replacing my voice.

Until then I hold out little to no hope for the future of gaming.

So long people pay and accept diatribe riddled lies and broken games it shall continue.

[Staquix]

Originally posted by GrOCam:

IT is actually build from the ground up, its a demanding title the first in the series. new physics new rules and since the very first FM.
Adapt.

That must be why the same broken broken manual clutch from FH3 is still in the game. Also the game not saving custom wheel profiles. And let's not forget old car models only being renderd from the front doors forward.
From the ground up means from the ground up not some refried half baked reboot of older titles. They put more lipstick on this pig and sold it for $100.
We were lied to for 6 damn years. That pisses me off as it should any moral thinking human on this planet.