Career mode is garbage!

[Tumult]

Career mode is a joke, right? Just street cars and a bit of flat tuning ♥♥♥♥ that is also implemented in an incredibly boring way? (Click on automatic upgrade and you're done) Who actually came up with the idiotic idea of having to level up a car? In a racing game (RACING GAME! Not a free to play online grind game!) in which there are hundreds of cars, I should drive one until I'm level >20 so I can change the engine?
And what's the deal with the three rounds of mandatory training? For what!? To "get to know" the car again after installing a new oil filter? How about a qualifying session instead? No, that would be too much motorsport and that's probably why there isn't a single race that doesn't have road cars. That's right, there isn't a single GT, LMP or Formula race! I'm sorry, what? Multiclass racing? At Forza MOTORSPORT? Hell no!
But what do I expect from a game that has managed to have a worse career mode year after year.
And don't tell me anything about DLCs or content that will be added later. The game has been released NOW (yes, officially in a few days) and not in 6 months, a year or whenever.
Basically FM is just a bad Forza Horizen without the open world.
I don't even want to start talking about the performance here, enough others have already talked about it.

[OuPeeNoob]

I don't mind that you have to level your car, but what I hate is that important upgrades like tyres (like compound) are locked until level 11. Which makes no sense.

I've had Silverstone in the rain today but because my car level wasn't high enough I didn't have wet tyres. Of course everyone else on the grid had them. The levels should give you handling and braking first and power and accelerations in later levels. Not power first which is useless since you can't keep your car on the road anyway.

[Voodoochile]

Publicado originalmente por OuPeeNoob:

I don't mind that you have to level your car, but what I hate is that important upgrades like tyres (like compound) are locked until level 11. Which makes no sense.

I've had Silverstone in the rain today but because my car level wasn't high enough I didn't have wet tyres. Of course everyone else on the grid had them. The levels should give you handling and braking first and power and accelerations in later levels. Not power first which is useless since you can't keep your car on the road anyway.

While I agree on the progression, it must be said that If you don't upgrade your car, your opponents wont as well. Also, I am 15 hours in to the Career already and this hasn't happened to me. Wet tires are a big increase in PI and your opponents have only upgrades around your PI and car level. So if you don't have it - they shouldn't as well. Otherwise what's stopping them from having an engine swap or drive train?

[Crimzin]

I love the rain driving, I think that's the one that turns to complete downpour with 2 laps left, aqua plaining and everything lol, so good tho.

You get the "Rain Meister" achievement for 50 laps, only 0.49% people have it on Gamepass

[oct]

Career mode is stale, repetitive, and shallow. One word review: Lazy.

Physics feel pretty good, graphics are great.. 7/10 at best. LAZY LAZY LAZY

[OuPeeNoob]

Publicado originalmente por Voodoochile:

Publicado originalmente por OuPeeNoob:

I don't mind that you have to level your car, but what I hate is that important upgrades like tyres (like compound) are locked until level 11. Which makes no sense.

I've had Silverstone in the rain today but because my car level wasn't high enough I didn't have wet tyres. Of course everyone else on the grid had them. The levels should give you handling and braking first and power and accelerations in later levels. Not power first which is useless since you can't keep your car on the road anyway.

While I agree on the progression, it must be said that If you don't upgrade your car, your opponents wont as well. Also, I am 15 hours in to the Career already and this hasn't happened to me. Wet tires are a big increase in PI and your opponents have only upgrades around your PI and car level. So if you don't have it - they shouldn't as well. Otherwise what's stopping them from having an engine swap or drive train?

That's interesting and makes sense for fairness. I'm pretty sure I wasn't level 11 for that race. I'll watch out the next time there's a rain race with a lower level car.

[Doctor Hades]

The Career mode is fine.

What I don't like, at least as far as I've played, is that the game has a practice followed by a race where you get to select your grid starting position. Why not just change the practice to a one-shot or 3-lap qualifier followed by a race where you start in the position you qualified? I mean this is mean to be a racing simulation, right?

[Brad]

Publicado originalmente por Doctor Hades:

The Career mode is fine.

What I don't like, at least as far as I've played, is that the game has a practice followed by a race where you get to select your grid starting position. Why not just change the practice to a one-shot or 3-lap qualifier followed by a race where you start in the position you qualified? I mean this is mean to be a racing simulation, right?

The practice session basically is a qualifying session. it takes your best lap into consideration when it tells you your estimated finishing position when you go to set the starting position and AI difficultly before the race.

The race is 6 laps typically around 10 minutes, it's already not a simulation in that effect because there aren't really races in the real world that short.

[SgtHorton]

Publicado originalmente por oct:

Career mode is stale, repetitive, and shallow. One word review: Lazy.

Physics feel pretty good, graphics are great.. 7/10 at best. LAZY LAZY LAZY

They have Microsoft money, years of development and cant make a good career mode, its a joke

[My Name is "Hey Zeus"!]

I agree, the career mode is pretty incomplete. Why can't we get career modes from the older sim racers like Gran Turismo 3 and 4 and Forza 3 and 4, just brought into the modern era. Those games gave us hundreds of events for just about any combination of car class, make, model, performance index, etc. Those games even gave us events limited to a single make, model, and year.

This game's Builder's Cup Series should be just one of dozens or hundreds of individual race series, that way, Microsoft could get away with and even potentially justify the whole car leveling system (i.e., the Builder's Cup Series is designed to build your car from a lowly F, E, D, C, class car up to B, A, S . . . class).

Then for other series, while they could be limited under various aspects, the player could use credits or even car points to upgrade without relying on car level.

Additionally, there is absolutely no need for any voice acting in these sim racing games, I don't need to hear a novel about the history of a race track or class of cars every time I start a new series or load into a track. It seems to do nothing but take away from all of the other stuff that could have been added with the money saved on the voice acting.

With what we have now, while I don't enjoy the practice laps, they're pretty much mandatory to level up your car at a reasonable rate. If we weren't so funneled into the practice laps, I feel like we could complete all of the career series between 10 and 20 hours. If this is all we're getting with slow drip fed content over the course of the next few months, I don't see how this game will have any staying power.

Additionally, with the limited career mode, we can't use the majority of the cars in their own series, unless we want to just start all the way over on any of the current series. I want to be able to use the majority, if not all of the cars, in their own individual events, which seems impossible with the current state of the game.

It's just incredibly unfortunate, because the game is fun to play. The cars feel good, it seems like there are a good number of vehicles, and a good amount of upgrade and tuning options. The game just feels super threadbare.

[Terminal Velocity]

Practice is not mandatory. Once you are in the race, click escape, and go to exit. You will have to the option to skip practice and go straight to the race.

[Moga CMDR]

Publicado originalmente por OuPeeNoob:

That's interesting and makes sense for fairness. I'm pretty sure I wasn't level 11 for that race. I'll watch out the next time there's a rain race with a lower level car.

I left my car stock for the whole builder's cup, and the AI did increase their specs over time. I stayed a B, the rest moved into the As, but stayed pretty low in them.

And while it did rain, I wasn't paying attention to the tires since I was letting the game play for me while I was doing other things. But the auto driver seemed fine with whatever they gave it.

Mind you, they stayed pretty stock like me, until the last race of the cup. That's when I noticed everyone had moved on.

[Revan]

Career mode is a disappointment because it doesn't feel like I am actually building a career.

I have a garage full of millions of dollars worth of cars to start and a half million credits to do as I please.

It has zero progression feel besides the arbitrary locks they put on each cup race to progress. It is extremely disappointing because of that.

[Dobke]

Publicado originalmente por Tumult:

Career mode is a joke, right? Just street cars and a bit of flat tuning ♥♥♥♥ that is also implemented in an incredibly boring way? (Click on automatic upgrade and you're done) Who actually came up with the idiotic idea of having to level up a car? In a racing game (RACING GAME! Not a free to play online grind game!) in which there are hundreds of cars, I should drive one until I'm level >20 so I can change the engine?
And what's the deal with the three rounds of mandatory training? For what!? To "get to know" the car again after installing a new oil filter? How about a qualifying session instead? No, that would be too much motorsport and that's probably why there isn't a single race that doesn't have road cars. That's right, there isn't a single GT, LMP or Formula race! I'm sorry, what? Multiclass racing? At Forza MOTORSPORT? Hell no!
But what do I expect from a game that has managed to have a worse career mode year after year.
And don't tell me anything about DLCs or content that will be added later. The game has been released NOW (yes, officially in a few days) and not in 6 months, a year or whenever.
Basically FM is just a bad Forza Horizen without the open world.
I don't even want to start talking about the performance here, enough others have already talked about it.

I though this was a racing game. Didn't know you could play as a garbage collector. Interested to see how it pans out.

[Mr. Bugattiman]

I agree, the career mode is so boring. No variation in the races. 6 laps all the time, with no pitstops including. Both Forza and GT7 is both so dissapointing for me. How is it so impossible to make a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ funny career mode? Project Cars 1-2 did so much better imo. So sad that PC3 and EA ruined it all... Im giving up on racing games..

[docup87]

The thing is, the career mode doesn't really work the way Turn10 wanted it to. The upgrade system is supposed to help you develop a closer relationship with the individual cars. But the problem is that the different championships are set up in such a way that you're done before you've completely upgraded a car. And for the next championship you need a new car again.