REVIEW from a long term sim racer.

[PremiumOctane]

Do not buy this game. You will regret it. If you are like me and have played many other sim racing games, such as iRacing AC/ACC and love sim racing. This is not going to improve the sim racing or simcade genre. This is not even simcade it is full arcade. Even Project cars 2 and GT7 are miles better then this trash. Hack IMO even as a arcade game Forza Horizon series is better.

THE GOOD.
1. It does have a FOV slider.
2. Replays maybe are slightly better.
And that is it for the good. Sad I know.

THE BAD.
1. Physics are absolutely appalling. They do not even resemble a car what so ever.
If you do a slalom test, the cars do not move or pitch as they should, there is almost no body roll. Even doing 160mph in a stock car then braking hard the nose of the car does not pitch forward as it should. The cars feel like something from the Flintstones. I could go on with many many more examples but i am not going to wast my breath.
2. Force feedback is awful even after changing many settings in game and on my Fanatec DD1. Anyone that says its good or ok after changing settings is lying. You can not have good or quality FFB if the physics are mediocre.
3.Another one is when you change the profile of your tires there is no visual representation that you did, they look the same. Plus if put new wheels on your car you can not change the offset.
4. Up Grading cars as most know is locked behind levelling your car up.
5. AI is as bad as FM7
6. Tracks. No Nordschleife plus there is just not enough tracks for a game that supposedly has been in development for years.
7. Poor optimisation even my 4090 struggles with this game. DLSS does not work. Maybe a driver update will fix it but do not hold your breath.
8. I have had multiple PC crashes.

THE UGLY.
1. The graphics are horrible for a next gen game. Everything is washed out. Textures are muddy and blurry looking. The cars look very cartoonish, especially after they get a scratch or some dust on them. On track they look nothing like they do when you view them in the garage, especially the AI cars on track, they look like they are from XBOX 360. Even in the garage some cars are not the best. Forza Horizon 5 looks way better IMO. Even the og AC with mods is better.

I had high hopes for Forza Motorsports reboot. I thought it would be some what like GT7 a good simcade racer. I was hoping I would be able to relax and play and watch some beautiful cars in replay mode. Then play some multi player with
some of my friends that do not have a PC to play the real sims. How ever i was thoroughly disppointed. I really hope that GT7 comes to PC so that can happen.

[seaston]

Eh okay, thanks for your opinion. I've been playing it for about 6 hours straight, and thoroughly enjoying it, forced myself to put it down so I could get some sleep. But, what do I know. You're a "long term sim racer" and all.

[ADHDmania]

I don't have the game, but base on all of Youtuber videos I watched so far, I agree with you regarding the graphics. Forza Motorsport looks so much boring and uglier than Horizon 5. But everyone says FM looks amazing, unreal, astonishing etc etc, I was very confused, i start to doubt my eyes.

[CYBR]

Ive had a few bugs and crashes but overall, I think its a really good car game... maybe even better than GT7... GT7 on Pc would be cool though lol

[MIKEHAWKISHUMOUNGUS]

Originally posted by CYBR:

Ive had a few bugs and crashes but overall, I think its a really good car game... maybe even better than GT7... GT7 on Pc would be cool though lol

Agree gt7 would be cool but forza is so addicting for me personally gt7 is boring i feel like this is even funner. Ngl gt7 is still great

[PremiumOctane]

Originally posted by ADHDmania:

I don't have the game, but base on all of Youtuber videos I watched so far, I agree with you regarding the graphics. Forza Motorsport looks so much boring and uglier than Horizon 5. But everyone says FM looks amazing, unreal, astonishing etc etc, I was very confused, i start to doubt my eyes.

Yes Horizon 5 graphics are far superior. This game has been massively rushed out in almost every aspect. There are lots of negatives i even left off my list. Another one is when you change the profile of your tires there is no visual representation that you did, they look the same. Plus if put new wheels on your car you can not change the offset. Also on the FFB and physics Jimmy Broadbent, did say on his video how awful it was as well. Plus SuperGT was playing with a game pad in his first online race which says it all. As a side note to remember most of the content creators, will not say how mediocre this game is as they want the fan boys views. Excepting this game in its current state is supporting mediocrity which is bad for sim racing and gaming in general.

[Voodoochile]

With all it's current technical/graphical shortcomings, there literally isn't another simcade game on PC market that even comes close to this. None of the other games you listed is remotely playable on a controller. Maybe ACC from cockpit camera if you are a masochist. The only comparison that can be made is GT7, which:

- isn't on PC at all
- the physics are significantly less detailed. More like in FH4&5

This game has been made to appeal for as wide an audience as possible and it will succeed at that. There is no competition. Even in the current early state.
Simply put, I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

[pestif]

That whole simcade stuff needs to go to the trash guys, Forza is a sim (ok it's not as accurate of a sim as let's say IRacing, but it's a sim), Forza Horizon is arcade, trackmania is arcade, I understand people love to find nuances and new labels but simcade means nothing, it's a sim.

[Nekorva]

its trash

[PremiumOctane]

Originally posted by Voodoochile:

With all it's current technical/graphical shortcomings, there literally isn't another simcade game on PC market that even comes close to this. None of the other games you listed is remotely playable on a controller. Maybe ACC from cockpit camera if you are a masochist. The only comparison that can be made is GT7, which:

- isn't on PC at all
- the physics are significantly less detailed. More like in FH4&5

This game has been made to appeal for as wide an audience as possible and it will succeed at that. There is no competition. Even in the current early state.
Simply put, I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

How does anyone know if you even have played the game when your profile is locked.
Plus your Steam level is 0. I agree with you that this game is for controllers. That's one of the reasons why the physics probably suck.

[PremiumOctane]

Originally posted by Daniel Veilside:

its trash

AGREED

[オナニー]

From what I have seen from multiple videos, the AI is amazingly bad. You can pretty much overtake half the cars as they all seem to forget they need to press the gas while 1st & 2nd are just Max Verstappen & Lewis Hamilton driving.

In AC, if I set AI to above 90% I get close door to door racing from each car all up and down the grid. Like cmon guys if games are this easy, Id rather turn on all assists and game journo mode while snoring through the game.

But if multiplayer is good then Id consider this game. Cus otherwise, the only other option is iRacing but thats a money sinkhole for your retirement funds & Im nowhere near the age yet.

[pestif]

Hey PremiumTrash calm down, I know your feeling are hurt because I put you in your place exposing your fantasy world of simcade that doesn't exist and never existed, you are trash at games, just assume that you are so bad that you need to find excuse when you sucks so much and move on, Forza is a simulation, not a simcade, and you are trash, both of these are facts.

[[CPC] Sellig]

Forza Motorsport is not a sim.

[pestif]

True it's not a sim, it's an racing cars simulation, thanks for the heads up. sim was to vague

[Kira Von Black]

what makes me worried the most about this game is the progression system each car has.
it is a good system that justifies the medium range upgrades that always existed in forza for years and destroys "Meta" builds like in Horizon 5, given how you gotta earn the upgrades, and not dump cash to build engine swaped monsters or Meta builds for specific 700/800/900 Performance index (like it is with Horizon 5 atm), that feels all the same and call it a day.
given how you can build races the way you want, and say specifically you want X types of car within a maximum range of 50 PI points, which imo is a nice way to control those issues.
but no doubt casuals will look at this and say: "GiMmE wAy tO SkIp It". Turn 10 better not give a way to skip it, and especially not do what they did with FM7 with MTXs.