This game looks terrible.... is nowhere near Horizon 5

[NZSOO]

All settings ultra except for ray tracing. Render quality 100%, motion blur off, and still disgusting the way it looks. Fps is terrible, and so on so on... very disappointed!

[black]

i would be happy if blurr would be considered ugly in games. but every game seems to use it, why? how is motion blurr realistic and why no one questions it?

when cars are presented in menus it's like i forgot to put on my glasses

[Peh]

Voodoochile lähetti viestin:

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Native 4K max settings with RT averaging over 90fps with a 4090.

https://imgur.com/a/tMAdh4S

Congratulations, you are one of the 0.1% of Steam users that has a 5k USD PC. Don't forget to upgrade next year.

It's actually 0.71%. If you want to sound snarky, at least get your facts correct.

[Buster "Howlin Mad" McKnuckles]

Car interiors look hilariously bad, overall graphics look washed out and fuzzy no matter what i do to the settings. Following the suggestions helped a bit but overall it's extremely underwhelming. I'll wait for a potential patch or driver update for the official release day but I'm definitely leaning towards refunding.

[NZSOO]

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Ok, guys listen, I have a 6800xt, in the game everything is ultra, but RT is off. Motion blur is off and lens flare is off +Radeon software image sharpening is 80%. So i have to say it doesn't look bad, but i'm still not happy with the track textures. And as some before me have posted the resolution scale can be adjusted to improve the look.

Yeap, using the same set-up on mine and the game looks pretty good. Still, it doesn't look much better than PC2 from 6 years ago, and PC2 runs on my set-up at 140fps+ which is amazing experience for a racing game.

What GPU do you have? And what are the settings?

[patrick68794]

Voodoochile lähetti viestin:

patrick68794 lähetti viestin:

Native 4K max settings with RT averaging over 90fps with a 4090.

https://imgur.com/a/tMAdh4S

Congratulations, you are one of the 0.1% of Steam users that has a 5k USD PC. Don't forget to upgrade next year.

Lol don't be upset that some people can afford good PCs. Didn't cost $5k either though :D

[BRAN]

The car reflections on the ground look very low res. Same goes for the shadows on the cars.
Not worthy of to be called raytraced on an RTX without any DLSS and every setting maxed. Can't believe it, but FH5 looks WAY better e.g. in the editor, where just 1 car needs to be rendered/ray traced.
Sorry to say, but THERE IS LOTS OF SPACE FOR IMPROVEMENT.

[patrick68794]

BRAN lähetti viestin:

The car reflections on the ground look very low res. Same goes for the shadows on the cars.
Not worthy of to be called raytraced on an RTX without any DLSS and every setting maxed. Can't believe it, but FH5 looks WAY better e.g. in the editor, where just 1 car needs to be rendered/ray traced.
Sorry to say, but THERE IS LOTS OF SPACE FOR IMPROVEMENT.

Shadows aren't ray traced. Reflections are pretty accurate, and actually the more physically accurate way they're rendering them is more demanding than just making terrible looking mirror-like reflections.

[BRAN]

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BRAN lähetti viestin:

The car reflections on the ground look very low res. Same goes for the shadows on the cars.
Not worthy of to be called raytraced on an RTX without any DLSS and every setting maxed. Can't believe it, but FH5 looks WAY better e.g. in the editor, where just 1 car needs to be rendered/ray traced.
Sorry to say, but THERE IS LOTS OF SPACE FOR IMPROVEMENT.

Shadows aren't ray traced. Reflections are pretty accurate, and actually the more physically accurate way they're rendering them is more demanding than just making terrible looking mirror-like reflections.

Shadows might be the wrong term, lets call them darker reflections...super jaggy and flickering like mad. I expect from RT on a 4080 accurate reflections, and they are NOT accurate. This looks not nearly like RL but very cartoony. Sorry to say.

[patrick68794]

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Shadows aren't ray traced. Reflections are pretty accurate, and actually the more physically accurate way they're rendering them is more demanding than just making terrible looking mirror-like reflections.

Shadows might be the wrong term, lets call them darker reflections...super jaggy and flickering like mad. I expect from RT on a 4080 accurate reflections, and they are NOT accurate. This looks not nearly like RL but very cartoony. Sorry to say.

Something is wrong with your game then. They don't look anything like that for me. What driver version are you on? And Windows 10 or 11?

[PharaohSteve]

With ReShade you can make it look much better, but it's a shame that out of the box it looks so dull.

[TheHuskyGT]

It's my day off and I've been playing for 6 hours straight.

Yes, this game looks like rubbish. At least not for its generation. Even Forza 7 looked better. Super jaggy graphics when up close, blurry textures a god-awful ghosting effect that I'm sure was not there before. It's everywhere: in the gauge cluster, when you are selecting wheels, and most noticeably, in chase cam. There is a literal ghost of your car always following you.

I noticed more stuff. Like colors. They look awful and half of the time you can't even get colors right. Some wheels you can't even paint, even though it gives you the option. Everything looks so shiny, like that cheap plastic chrome. Color reflects on random surfaces, the interior barrel of wheels look like shiny plastic from a toy car.

Even more stuff as I test other cars:

The BMW M5 (the newer one). Half of the wheels you select, the brake caliper will clip through them. I don't know if other cars are suffering from this, but this one was notorious for it.

How come this does not happen in Horizon? Cars like this one are obvious ports and not build from the ground up. This should not happen.

This and among other things, like really awful car sounds, wrong sounds, no wheel spacers etc. A lot of downgrades in this game.

Again, a shame. Because at its core, the game is actually a lot of fun.

[Apostoliskf98]

TheHuskyGT lähetti viestin:

It's my day off and I've been playing for 6 hours straight.

Yes, this game looks like rubbish. At least not for its generation. Even Forza 7 looked better. Super jaggy graphics when up close, blurry textures a god-awful ghosting effect that I'm sure was not there before. It's everywhere: in the gauge cluster, when you are selecting wheels, and most noticeably, in chase cam. There is a literal ghost of your car always following you.

I noticed more stuff. Like colors. They look awful and half of the time you can't even get colors right. Some wheels you can't even paint, even though it gives you the option. Everything looks so shiny, like that cheap plastic chrome. Color reflects on random surfaces, the interior barrel of wheels look like shiny plastic from a toy car.

Even more stuff as I test other cars:

The BMW M5 (the newer one). Half of the wheels you select, the brake caliper will clip through them. I don't know if other cars are suffering from this, but this one was notorious for it.

How come this does not happen in Horizon? Cars like this one are obvious ports and not build from the ground up. This should not happen.

This and among other things, like really awful car sounds, wrong sounds, no wheel spacers etc. A lot of downgrades in this game.

Again, a shame. Because at its core, the game is actually a lot of fun.

Most accurate reply so far .Agree

[Voodoochile]

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Voodoochile lähetti viestin:

Congratulations, you are one of the 0.1% of Steam users that has a 5k USD PC. Don't forget to upgrade next year.

Lol don't be upset that some people can afford good PCs. Didn't cost $5k either though :D

You are missing the point. I am not upset at all. I am highlighting a mentality of elitism among people who have top of the line PC and say things like "I get 60fps at 4K so it's fine. Get a better PC" when the PCs of people struggling are covering the recommended requirements. These types of people that upgrade their GPU every year are literally facilitating developers skipping leg day on game optimization. Meanwhile, games are not even progressing significantly in visual fidelity anymore.

Look at PC2 from 6 years ago....Take out Ray Tracing from the equation and it looks significantly more detailed. This is trend is not okay.
https://youtu.be/uI2rafDzjV4?si=OsmnfdGXGyKUDHKT

[patrick68794]

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Lol don't be upset that some people can afford good PCs. Didn't cost $5k either though :D

You are missing the point. I am not upset at all. I am highlighting a mentality of elitism among people who have top of the line PC and say things like "I get 60fps at 4K so it's fine. Get a better PC" when the PCs of people struggling are covering the recommended requirements. These types of people that upgrade their GPU every year are literally facilitating developers skipping leg day on game optimization. Meanwhile, games are not even progressing significantly in visual fidelity anymore.

Look at PC2 from 6 years ago....Take out Ray Tracing from the equation and it looks significantly more detailed. This is trend is not okay.
https://youtu.be/uI2rafDzjV4?si=OsmnfdGXGyKUDHKT

Nah, definitely upset or else you wouldn't be making smartass remarks. You also wouldn't be lying about how this game looks

[XX_Swaglord420_XX]

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Congratulations, you are one of the 0.1% of Steam users that has a 5k USD PC. Don't forget to upgrade next year.

It's actually 0.71%. If you want to sound snarky, at least get your facts correct.

It is still dumb it requires basically a 4090 at minimum to run considering this game looks no better than fm7 which ran maxed out with 120% res scaling on a 1650 without issues. it actually looks worse in some ways. put both side by side, and you will get confused what is supposed to be the new game. not sure about driving as they delayed the release for almost everyone who didnt pay extra, so ill see about that in a few days. but considering you can expect still terrible performance on a 4090 or 7900XTX I will most likely be refunding it, I aint gonna buy some low effort game that still runs terrible on a 4090.