Why are you playing this when you could be playing ACC instead?

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The title is pretty edgy, but i'm honstely interested in your opinions what would make forza motorsport worth it.

I don't own it yet, but i think it could be fun to unlock new cars and parts and play online. But ACC just feels really really good.

[clairvoyantwolf]

I will answer this question completely and in detail.

The reason why I don't play or own ACC is because the GT3 class of racecar is the most boring class of street based racecar that has ever existed. When the old GT1 and GT2 monsters streaked by you knew it from the high pitched shriek of a Ferrari or Porsche and the base rumble of a Viper or Corvette. With GT3 it may as well be "please pass the Grey Poupon" in comparison. Even the LMPs had trouble running them down on the straights. Furthermore, if one car was slower than the other it got updates to close the gap. That's how we got the M3 GTR for example. In GT3 the leading car is BOPed to death, you can almost pick the race order from event to event by BOP.

That and I prefer to race street cars than even GT1 or GT2. Note ACC has no street cars. If I go to my local track or autocross I see people who took street cars and modded them to be track weapons. In Forza I can do the same thing (after dealing with the stupid XP system). In ACC or AC I can't. And in any other racing game I can think of I can't, barring the GT series...but I'm not the biggest fan of Nissan and those games aren't on PC anyway.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Nice to see you have fun with the game besides its flaws.^^ No sarcasm.

[b4ds33d]

the same reason you lurk and 5h!7 post the boards of a game you don't like.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Автор сообщения: Brad

Because the builder cup in multiplayer is absolutely awesome. You have so many completely different cars on the track at once with totally different performance metrics. Winning doesn't really matter very much so it's fun just to pick a car that isn't necessarily the fastest but is cool and just battle it out in the mid or back field. You are constantly upgrading and tuning and switching cars.

This game is so much more fun and dynamic than ACC or iRacing where ever race is basically a spec race.

The ramming is a bit of an issue but ultimately it's just part of the deal.

Sorry i dont see that this discussion is on page 2. I meant Brad with my comment. But nice to see you like it excluded the exp system.

Автор сообщения: b4ds33d

the same reason you lurk and 5h!7 post the boards of a game you don't like.

I do the same sometimes. For Games i dont like but hope that the game change and get better or like a white Knight will warn other players.^^

[戴维大仙]

回档问题没有解决。很烂

[Quick☢420™]

Автор сообщения: PPPAULIE WALNUTZ

The title is pretty edgy, but i'm honstely interested in your opinions what would make forza motorsport worth it.

I don't own it yet, but i think it could be fun to unlock new cars and parts and play online. But ACC just feels really really good.

I own ACC,it is a full on sim,very serious playstyle.FM8 is a lot of fun to just pop in to do a few laps,play some rivals,maybe do a race or two.ACC is fun but only if you are in the mood for serious racing and serious setup time.... FM8 really shines at being a fun simcade for casual racing fun....

[TheHuskyGT]

Assetto Corsa is fun to play for a few minutes. But aside the physics, those games are barren when it comes to content. They are not a replacement for complete car games like GT or Forza. Just a compliment.

I prefer to play BeamNg if I want physics. Much more to do, and far more advanced than Assetto will ever be.

Forza is usually the perfect balance between a decent driving experience (I play with wheels exclusively) and a complete package for car enthusiast, who care more about the car part, more than the competition part.

This is of course, with previous Forzas. This current games needs at least a few years worth of fixes and content added before it can even come close to the Xbox 360 era Forzas, or its sister, Horizon 5.

[MCH]

because one game is built for controller and one game is built for wheel and pedals. i swear for some reason everyone got Men In Black flashed and thought this new forza game was going to be a full-fledged sim and not a controller-first racing game. when i want a real sim i play iracing.

asking this question is like saying "why are you playing valorant and not escape from tarkov?"

guaranteed if the half of you who hate this game went in knowing it was going to be a controller-first simcade you'd probably enjoy it more.

[Kenturama]

FIrst beforehand, I played this new Forza on GamePass so I dont have to spent 70 American dollars for an unoptimized game therefore no nouse icon on my profile

Before I answer your question, I play with Xbox gamepad and dont have any wheel yet. I bought and occasionally play Assetto Corsa Competizione, Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2. Been tried RaceRoom, RFactor2 free weekend, and subbed a month of iRacing.

My experience? Knowing that those acclaimed "simulator" games are built with steering wheel in mind, I reckon that with only analog stick and rudimentary L2+R2 brake+throttle control I guess I got handicapped in terms of competitive racing gameplay.
Guess which simulator-game from those is the most "playable" of all? My take is Project Cars 2 and the bad news is you cant buy PC2 anymore on Steam because some developer-publisher related issue that a bit out of topic to explain here.

In training session on ACC, first 3 hours of play I spent majority of game time just to find which controller preset is "playable" and suitable for my style and also being competitive.
I read so many Steam guides, community webpages, watched many Youtube videos how to preset or "best" controller settings. I already saved dozens of preset on ACC game controls setting. I was constantly back and forth between oversteer and understeer, then change the preset one way or another.
Been owning ACC in almost two years Im only playing offline with AI because my safety rating and skill rating are not ready for the online lobby and honestly Im okay with that.

When this new Forza finally showed up on my GamePass I immediately played and have still playing. Almost none of the controller issue Ive experienced on ACC beforehand is exists on this FM, beside some inconsistent brake and throttle sensitivity.
Knowing the mostly negative reviews rating I read on homepage about hardware performance and lack of "simulation" Im fully understand their concerns and I also got some "shadow realm" bug from Super GT videos.
But in my personal concern, my priority is just a game that is "fun" with Xbox controller and can also be competitive with others wheel players. Ive played some fun lobbies and
can grasp the game learning curve.

After all. this matter of question is very subjective and broad.
Take my argument with massive grain of salt. Every individual has their own financial background, taste of gameplay and a bit of external concern like maybe most of their friends are playing one game over another that themselves and buying that game just for sake of friendships.

Sorry for the long read. I just cant oversimplify my answer lol.

[spiralyguy]

It seems like the multiplayer lobbies in ACC just play the same ~4 tracks, absolute pile of Spa/Monza servers. Less variety in cars, virtually zero American cars. No compelling career mode. Overwhelming amounts of options, both in setting up a race vs AI and in car setup.

Don't get me wrong, I like ACC a lot, but it's somewhat of a difference niche than FM.

[Rich Green]

I've played ACC, AMS2 and Rf2 regularly for the past few years and while I've had a lot of fun with them, they can be quite dry and it takes a lot of practice to become competitive. The last time I played a Forza game was on Xbox 360 with FM3 and I was intrigued to see how the FM series had developed. I thought it might also provide a more casual experience when compared to the more serious sims. I'm going to stick with it for a while longer as I did with the other 3 titles. Both ACC and AMS2 got a lot of stick when they were released.

[batumoto]

Simracing in itself is really cool, but sadly I got tired of it. I sold my rig. If I want to drive a car, then I'll just hop into my car in real life. Now I just play arcade/simcade racing games on a gamepad. It's more comfy. I can play while laying in bed.

[Knusperzwieback]

Автор сообщения: clairvoyantwolf

The reason why I don't play or own ACC is because the GT3 class of racecar is the most boring class of street based racecar that has ever existed.

+1

[MysticalPotato]

Автор сообщения: PPPAULIE WALNUTZ

The title is pretty edgy, but i'm honstely interested in your opinions what would make forza motorsport worth it.

I don't own it yet, but i think it could be fun to unlock new cars and parts and play online. But ACC just feels really really good.

ACC is boring and only SP imo

[MysticalPotato]

Автор сообщения: Brad

Because the builder cup in multiplayer is absolutely awesome. You have so many completely different cars on the track at once with totally different performance metrics. Winning doesn't really matter very much so it's fun just to pick a car that isn't necessarily the fastest but is cool and just battle it out in the mid or back field. You are constantly upgrading and tuning and switching cars.

This game is so much more fun and dynamic than ACC or iRacing where ever race is basically a spec race.

The ramming is a bit of an issue but ultimately it's just part of the deal.

There is no builders cup in multiplayer. There is the builders cup (Single player) and Multiplayer (multiplayerr). I think you phrased this wrong or you are confused.