Forza Motorsport is NOT for arcade racers.

[Omiley]

Those who have only found success in arcade racing games will struggle in Forza. Understanding who you are will save some people ALOT of frustration when they can't figure it out. Time to fish or cut bait...

[Ovan]

What are you talking about? The game let's you turn off damage, fuel and tire comsuption.
Do you call any game without drift turning a sim? Forza is pretty casual, mate.

[AvenGer1337]

any game where u can make a turn at 200kmh on a stock car is an arcade

[WhispersOfTheWind]

I really liked Motorsport 7 but in that game there are some limitations for instance about the car opponent difficulty, amount of fuel available I believe which you can not change and some other quirks I have with it like not being able to qualify which all make the experience lack in essence to be considered a full sim or a full racing game at least IMHO but I think at the same time that as a complete product goes at its core it is very capable and competent and I really enjoy racing and driving in it and then also I really hope that Forza Motorsport will be good and not miss on some integral features to make it a full or complete racing game or sim.

We kind of need a Gran Tourismo for the PC I believe, oh also then in this sense and I believe I have heard something about this is that I also hope or more precisely want :P um the opponents to be good because that was also an issue that in Motorsport kind of was irritating how the AI drivers behaved which coupled with the fact one couldn't make them go faster than "unbeatable'' ties together in with the frustration or just a feeling of that game lacking but I believe Motorsport will be good though. Specifically I am referring to the feeling that the opponents didn't see me or didn't notice me in game on the track and didn't behave towards me like they did with one another and really felt also like they were scripted to just drive on the racing line which you can visually turn on to see it, it is like the "perfect racing line" but then this would cause the opponents then sometimes to like slow down in really illogical places where they in essence could just go through flat out which would cause collisions and unexpected behavior or situations which also was a big pity on the game's part I feel but here's to hoping that all these issues will be fixed with the upcoming release.

One feature I really like about Gran Tourismo is thus that alleged AI (machine) learning aspect of the opponents.

Again, I'm glad that they choose to release it on Steam as well :)

In my opinion Forza Motorsport has the potential to be the best racing game on PC since the time of something like GTR2 which had a lot of moddable content and in this sense I also hope that Motorsport will have like a LOT of content and perhaps some ability or possibility to mod the game which I am not entirely optimistic about but okay...

[KillingArts]

Try Richard Burns Rally and then reconsider what you think is a simulation. :)

[Gender Bender]

lmao both forza series are arcade racing game

[󠀡󠀡]

and? who cares? just enjoy the game

[CunkFeatures]

Originally posted by Omiley:

Those who have only found success in arcade racing games will struggle in Forza.

No, they wont.

The game is made for Xbox. So made for people sat 6ft away from a big TV using a controller. Its tuned to be harder as its FM. But not tuned for be 1:1 with a wheel in a hydraulic rig with 3 monitors.

If it was a proper sim it would never be playable on the console its sold on side by side to the PC.

EDIT:
I guarantee any teen in their bedroom can master this game using an Xbox controller. More so than any real world remote control car driver could do. Cus its a game.

[Dexaldem]

Originally posted by Ovan:

What are you talking about? The game let's you turn off damage, fuel and tire comsuption.
Do you call any game without drift turning a sim? Forza is pretty casual, mate.

Ignoring even THAT, I OWN Forza Motorsport 1 for the original Xbox, and drifting existed in that game too. It was a good way to lose control, but it was there.

[CunkFeatures]

Originally posted by Dexaldem:

Originally posted by Ovan:

What are you talking about? The game let's you turn off damage, fuel and tire comsuption.
Do you call any game without drift turning a sim? Forza is pretty casual, mate.

Ignoring even THAT, I OWN Forza Motorsport 1 for the original Xbox,.

Prove it.

[Χάρης]

Originally posted by AvenGer1337:

any game where u can make a turn at 200kmh on a stock car is an arcade

Not really. It depends on the turn.

[Harawanagangsta]

God I love Steam Forums. Feels like 4chan. The troll threads and genuine opinions are completely indistinguishable.

[NairBoT]

I think he meant you can't insert quarters. lol
This isn't Sega Outrun.

So there is supposedly a genre between Outrun(Arcade) and ACC(Sim) called Simcade.
Typically, Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo are referred to as Simcade.

For me, I much prefer track racing to open world.
Mostly, I want the track cameras for the replays.
In my opinion, the replays are trash without them.
Another reason is location variety.

[HersheyNesquik]

I for one am hoping that it's easier and more beginner friendly than let's say ACC. Don't mind an arcade experience if the handling of the cars feel right.

[BRAN]

I expect all the frustation from previous forza titles, like player turn bombings, no damage penalties, unrealistic AI behaviour , etc...
I am NOT expecting the best Racing SIM ever. That will be AC2 most likely.

[Harawanagangsta]

Originally posted by BRAN:

I expect all the frustation from previous forza titles, like player turn bombings, no damage penalties, unrealistic AI behaviour , etc...
I am NOT expecting the best Racing SIM ever. That will be AC2 most likely.

Thats literally all being addressed in this game. Allegedly. Theres a penalty system. And entirely reworked damage, tire and fuel model with pits. AI hopefully is much much better this time. If you're expecting them to just have lied about all that stuff and it winds up not having implemented anything they've said they have. Fair enough. But otherwise, theres explicit reason not to expect any of what you listed as issues with this one.