Forza Motorsport

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hogaN. Jun 13, 2023 @ 6:50pm
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REMOVE " ALWAYS ONLINE " Element of this game - Who is with me !? SAY AYE!
REMOVE " ALWAYS ONLINE " Element of this game - Who is with me !? SAY AYE!

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/06/forza-motorsports-career-mode-is-always-online-dlc-plans-detailed
Last edited by hogaN.; Jun 13, 2023 @ 6:54pm
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hogaN. Jun 13, 2023 @ 6:53pm 
Some people have slow & very unreliable internet why should they be punished for wanting to have fun offline and for paying $$$ ?

If there is one way to encourage those folks that travel the sea by ship - it is most certainly this feature.

Heck I am thinking of buying a boat when this comes out if it is still " ALWAYS ONLINE "
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CheeseBoar Jun 13, 2023 @ 9:34pm 
Welp, this is coming off of my wishlist.
EagleHunter Jun 13, 2023 @ 10:49pm 
The developer did add that there will be “options for playing offline,” which include Forza Motorsport’s Free Play mode where you’ll be able to practice to your heart’s content without an internet connection. But if you eventually want to race against others or try out the game’s vaunted Career Mode, then you will need to be online in order to do so.

Last edited by EagleHunter; Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:11am
mamamakanyuk Jun 14, 2023 @ 2:09am 
Ya agree, I have lot of bad experience with always online.
For example in nfs 2015 I always get kicked off even when I play single player mode. Ridiculous!
EagleHunter Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:18am 
Originally posted by Aexcaliber:
Boykott this game.

I get that you're not a fan of the always online aspect of the game and you're suggesting boycotting it. While you're entitled to your opinion, it's important to express your concerns in a respectful manner.

Being rude or advocating for a boycott just because the game doesn't meet your preferences isn't fair to the developers. Instead, try providing constructive feedback or engaging in discussions to address your concerns.

Remember, game developers work hard to create enjoyable experiences. So, let's aim for respectful communication and discussions that can lead to positive outcomes and a better gaming community.

Ultimately, it's your choice whether to continue playing or explore other options. Just keep in mind the impact of your words on the developers and the community.
Hungry Manticore Jun 14, 2023 @ 4:16am 
The game is definitely coming off my wish list. I'm not paying £70 to essentially rent a product which will become almost unplayable once the servers are shut down in the future. And it will happen eventually, sooner or later.

For me, game preservation is important as I love coming back to the old classics I used to play in my youth. I still play old Forza games, and I know I will be able to do so as long as I live because none of them has this ridiculous always online requirement for single player modes!

What's the point of that? If they want to prevent cheating, why not just do what games like Diablo 2 an Test Drive Unlimited did decades ago and let the player create either offline or online profiles, with the online ones stored on the server? Personally, I don't give a rat's arse about online features like multiplayer mode, leaderboards, photo sharing etc. and I would be more than happy to be cut off from those, as long as I can play the career mode offline.
EagleHunter Jun 14, 2023 @ 4:37am 
Originally posted by Hungry Manticore:
The game is definitely coming off my wish list. I'm not paying £70 to essentially rent a product which will become almost unplayable once the servers are shut down in the future. And it will happen eventually, sooner or later.

For me, game preservation is important as I love coming back to the old classics I used to play in my youth. I still play old Forza games, and I know I will be able to do so as long as I live because none of them has this ridiculous always online requirement for single player modes!

What's the point of that? If they want to prevent cheating, why not just do what games like Diablo 2 an Test Drive Unlimited did decades ago and let the player create either offline or online profiles, with the online ones stored on the server? Personally, I don't give a rat's arse about online features like multiplayer mode, leaderboards, photo sharing etc. and I would be more than happy to be cut off from those, as long as I can play the career mode offline.

I understand the potential issue of unplayability if the servers are shut down. However, I strongly believe that the benefits of this requirement far outweigh the risks.

One major advantage of the always online feature is its ability to transform Forza Motorsport into a highly social gaming experience. Online multiplayer allows players to engage in thrilling races, share their cars and tunes, and compete in exciting challenges. This significantly enhances the game's replay value and makes it an incredibly enjoyable experience.

Furthermore, the always online requirement adds a dynamic element to Forza Motorsport. The game constantly introduces new events and challenges, ensuring that the world of Forza remains fresh and captivating. This feature prevents any feelings of monotony and keeps players engaged for extended periods.

I genuinely believe that the likelihood of this happening is extremely low. Forza Motorsport enjoys immense popularity, and it is in Microsoft's best interest to maintain a stable server infrastructure to support its dedicated player base.

In the rare event that server shutdowns occur, I am confident that Microsoft will provide a proper solution for players to continue enjoying the game offline. They could release a patch that eliminates the always online requirement or offer a method to download the game's assets for local play.

Overall the advantages of Forza Motorsport's always online requirement outweigh the associated risks. It is a game well worth investing in, even if concerns about server shutdowns arise.

Here are some key points to consider:

Forza Motorsport is an amazin crafted game that offers an extensive array of content.
The always online requirement primarily affects multiplayer modes and select features. The primary single-player campaign can be enjoyed offline.
Microsoft has established a commendable track record of providing long-term support for its games, ensuring ongoing enjoyment for players.
Hungry Manticore Jun 14, 2023 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by EagleHunter:
One major advantage of the always online feature is its ability to transform Forza Motorsport into a highly social gaming experience. Online multiplayer allows players to engage in thrilling races, share their cars and tunes, and compete in exciting challenges. This significantly enhances the game's replay value and makes it an incredibly enjoyable experience.
No offence, but I clearly said that I do not care about social features, and I bet I'm not the only player who feels that way. Besides, the same social features were present in latest Horizon games and yet they did not demand a constant connection to the server in order to progress through single player mode. Still not convinced? Modern Need for Speed games (aside from NFS2015) also have stuff like leaderboards and wrap sharing, but they are still playable offline. You can literally disconnect your device from the internet and play these games from start to finish. Nobody is shoving the social aspect of these games down your throat.

Originally posted by EagleHunter:
Furthermore, the always online requirement adds a dynamic element to Forza Motorsport. The game constantly introduces new events and challenges, ensuring that the world of Forza remains fresh and captivating. This feature prevents any feelings of monotony and keeps players engaged for extended periods.
Again, Forza Horizon 4 and 5 literally did the same thing via monthly updates and yet none of them requires constant connection to the server in older to play them.

Originally posted by EagleHunter:
In the rare event that server shutdowns occur, I am confident that Microsoft will provide a proper solution for players to continue enjoying the game offline. They could release a patch that eliminates the always online requirement or offer a method to download the game's assets for local play.
Are you though? They didn't even bother adding time exclusive cars to Autoshow in Forza Horizon 3 once they stopped supporting it. What makes you think they will make FM playable offline?

Besides, do you know how many dead games we have, because the servers were shut down? I can think of countless of such games (Motor City Online, NFS World, BattleForge, Darkspore - just to name a few), and yet I can't recall a single example when the developer actually patched their product to work offline. Sure, it is technically possible for the players to write a server emulator, but it's an extremely complex and time consuming process. Besides, I don't think we should expect fellow gamers to fix the developers' ♥♥♥♥-ups.

Originally posted by EagleHunter:
The always online requirement primarily affects multiplayer modes and select features. The primary single-player campaign can be enjoyed offline.
You didn't pay attention. They literally announced that the single player campaign cannot be played offline, you need to be constantly connected to the server in order to progress. The only single player mode available offline is Free Play. Which is nice, as I like setting up races with my own rules, but why the hell is the career mode locked behind a server connection?
hogaN. Jun 14, 2023 @ 5:03am 
" For me, game preservation is important as I love coming back to the old classics I used to play in my youth. I still play old Forza games, and I know I will be able to do so as long as I live "

Amen to this above.

If I want go back and play Mafia 1 or Max Payne 1, NFS Underground 1 \ Carbon or SimFarm and have purchased it with Hard earned money I should have the ability to do so.

To Hell with this NEW SLOGAN of You will OWN NOTHING and BE HAPPY!

Who do they think they are ?

I will own what I want to own and play when I want to play.
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Flo Automata Jun 14, 2023 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by EagleHunter:
I get that you're not a fan of the always online aspect of the game and you're suggesting boycotting it. While you're entitled to your opinion, it's important to express your concerns in a respectful manner.

Being rude or advocating for a boycott just because the game doesn't meet your preferences isn't fair to the developers.

In my opinion, it's the opposite. It's not fair from the developers, to release a game with a forced online progression - this has nothing to do with preferences about a game. It's not an mmorpg or something.

There is simply no need to force a singleplayer campaing behind an forced online progression.

While there are enough countries with bad internet connection, having trouble to play such games, but i know from Forza Horizons playlists, that these games are buggy as well. It was not possible to finish so many trials, achivements or rewards, because there is something broken on every week. And FH5 has not even forced internet, you can play it offline, but the online part is a mess.


This is nothing personal or rude on my opinion, it's just saving money, to show the developers a red line. Service Live games are bad for us players.

I remember they've tried something similiar when Forza Motorsport 7 was just starting.. with lootboxes, but they've tried.

People doesn't accepted that, review-bombed the game, and in the end, the developers had to cut the lootboxes off. It's one thing to try something once, but it's another to do it twice...


So, please, be kind, and understand my (or others) opinion.

Beside that, i never spend money for games i do not own. Forza Motorsport will be no exception. If that is the way Turn10 goes on, i am just done with them. End of the Story.
Last edited by Flo Automata; Jun 14, 2023 @ 6:03am
hogaN. Jun 14, 2023 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by Aexcaliber:
Originally posted by EagleHunter:
I get that you're not a fan of the always online aspect of the game and you're suggesting boycotting it. While you're entitled to your opinion, it's important to express your concerns in a respectful manner.

Being rude or advocating for a boycott just because the game doesn't meet your preferences isn't fair to the developers.

In my opinion, it's the opposite. It's not fair from the developers, to release a game with a forced online progression - this has nothing to do with preferences about a game. It's not an mmorpg or something.

There is simply no need to force a singleplayer campaing behind an forced online progression.

While there are enough countries with bad internet connection, having trouble to play such games, but i know from Forza Horizons playlists, that these games are buggy as well. It was not possible to finish so many trials, achivements or rewards, because there is something broken on every week. And FH5 has not even forced internet, you can play it offline, but the online part is a mess.


This is nothing personal or rude on my opinion, it's just saving money, to show the developers a red line. Service Live games are bad for us players.

I remember they've tried something similiar when Forza Motorsport 7 was just starting.. with lootboxes, but they've tried.

People doesn't accepted that, review-bombed the game, and in the end, the developers had to cut the lootboxes off. It's one thing to try something once, but it's another to do it twice...


So, please, be kind, and understand my (or others) opinion.

Beside that, i never spend money for games i do not own. Forza Motorsport will be no exception. If that is the way Turn10 goes on, i am just done with them. End of the Story.

+1

In Agreement.
InsomniacLoser03 Jun 14, 2023 @ 9:18am 
Honestly when they said career is online only and free play being the offline mode only gave me flashback when GT7 got a 36 hour maintenance within 2 weeks of the game launch and couldn't play it.:serious:
hogaN. Jun 14, 2023 @ 11:42am 
On that note about it having to be " online " to mitigate Cheating:

https://youtu.be/LnORaagp6OI


Thoughts ?

Still think we need it to " ALWAYS BE ONLINE " to Stop cheaters !?
Ovan Jun 14, 2023 @ 6:47pm 
They will never remove the online requirement of the carrer because they are selling credits boosters, included in the premium version of the game.
So probably just like GT7, they will make you grind for each and every car and they don't want you cheating infinite credits into your account.
That's also to make their "car pass" more appealing, because those are simply added to your account. No grind required.
EagleHunter Jun 14, 2023 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by Aexcaliber:
This is nothing personal or rude on my opinion, it's just saving money, to show the developers a red line. Service Live games are bad for us players.

But calling them names is not the way to solve the problem. It is rude and disrespectful, and it will not make them listen to you.

If you want to show the developers that you are unhappy with always online games, there are better ways to do it.

Calling names is not going to solve anything. It is only going to make the situation worse. If you want to make a difference, you need to be respectful and constructive.
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