Thoughts on the Ice Lords?

[Aryxbez]

WARNING, MAY CONTAIN STORY SPOILERS.

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For the few that have beaten the game, I've been wondering what your guys thoughts what the Other Ice Lords concepts are like? Including their appearance (before/after the whold face burning thing), concept, style, and well Lore bits simply found mentioned in the game about them!

I'm also looking for Lore bits in the game mentioned about them, any information can be learned about them would be useful to me.


The Following Ice Lords: Blackstorm, Crystal, Marshall Winters, White Lady, Blackfrost, The Chiller, and Ice Duchess

Blackstorm: Its confirmed by the final boss that he defeated and imprisoned a (shadow) Dragon in the Worldheart astral realm. We also know he has one of the largest armies, right there with Marshall Winters, and...Ice Duchess? (Loading screen)

Crystal: Like all of em, know they may all look like Blackfrost (which is kinda generic), but indications she was rather conceited person, woman of beauty. So by her namesake, I'm thinking she probably dealt with crystal energy, built her palaces & like out of such, and likely has more "succubus" like concubines.

Marshall Winters: Facts: "Winters the Bloodthirsty" apparently loves his Juggernauts and generals.

So its likely he personally creates the armies for purposes he does, and possibly helped supply them to others? (despite all each own their own armies).

The Chiller: Facts: We know he took a province in the...East? I forget the name, mentioned by the Swamp healer.

Burn or not, I imagine him to look more like a more literal "Skeleton" possibly with Ice-like skin, or Flesh w/Icy-blue glowing skeleton, that favors undead w/cold powers and like slowly, but surely take over provinces and like.

Ice Duchess: I imagine she takes to some appearance of royalty, and drabs her HQ to represent such. Possibly right up there with "Undead Knights", skeletal butlers, and is likely a vampire herself!

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Hmm, well dont ask for lore in Spider studio games, they never made an sequel for any of them games. And anyways the other lords are dead if you chosen to burn the whole land.
Only thing they could make is an sequel that tells the story of the white lords before becoming the ice lords.

I think all the Icelords have different apperance depending on them own wishes, they can form them subordinates like they wish.
We all know they been human so they still have similar dessires.
Thats why Blackfrost dessires to make all the female Icelord to be his slaves(concubines). He mentions it before his last fight.

[Aryxbez]

It's true, in the sacrifice ending, they are also all incinerated. Which seems like the most canonical ending, considering it has more effort in the form of an epilogue by Mathras at the end.

Though basically, I was assuming the "King" ending instead, where you go to become the defender of Vertiel, and go about hunting down the Ice Lords one by one. Which is easy DLC potential right there.

I do wonder how detailed the Developers setting document is, if have any notes on the various places that got mentioned in this one-off setting?

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The ruler ending, well our "hero" is known for his/her "first acting then thinking" philosophy. Thats how i had the fealing about the hero in bad and good mode. So when he/she chosen to become the ruler by destroying the demon you can see in the cutscene that he/she after killing the demon recognized his/her mistake, he/she is left all alone into the worldheart. You can see the shocked face recognizing that. So im not even sure if our "hero" will find a way out, a portal to the other icelords domains or will get insane over time all in the lonelines becoming some more dangerous than the Icelords. So that whould be a possible sequel. You start as a new hero who grows up in the new world shaped by the old hero, now insane and creating a bizzare demonish world with the Icelords opposing him. And your new purpose is to kill the old hero and the Icelords. Demons and undeads fights against each other on the streets.

[Aryxbez]

That is possible, and could work, though since still carrying the light spears, they could act as portals to the other castles. We know killing an Ice Lord w/their worldheart connection opened one up. I'm not entirely sure, but doesn't Vulcan still have their own demon inside of them, so the loneliness wouldn't be so bad?

Since the sacrifice ending is the canonical one, and I"m not so sure the game would be enough for a full-on sequel, why I suggested DLC to see the rest of the world's content, including the remaining Ice Lords.

Otherwise that idea though standard, could work, though I don't get why there's demons in the streets. Unless thinking through the worldhearts restarting, world "fighting back" by possessing multiple people?

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Well the demons on the streets whould be the minions from Vulcan which got insane of the lonelines. So he/she started to become something similar like the Icelord, kinda a Firelord who can create demons. And even trough his insanity he/she whould still see the Icelords as his/her forst opponent, so thats why undead and demons whould fight each other.

[scottboy81]

I don't think it matters really, i highly doubt there will ever be a sequel, the studio doesn't seem to do it for their games and the most canon ending is them all being destroyed. Also I don't think this game ever sold that well

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Dont make the Spiders Studio bad. They do what they can with them low resources. And they have a life to live aswell, so a sequel whould be very risky. And for the bad salles of Boudn by flame, well its mostly the foult of the players who are spoiled childrens .
They compare games to each others, games with big budgets to this one with small budget.
Still Bound by Flame is a great experience and it made me alot of fun to play it, i played it on max difficult level trough the whole game.

People who play this game on easy mode and then they are done in 14hrs, or they rush trough the game without doing sidequests, they complain.

You can feal how much erfort they put into this game. And you can feal the story is tight and there is a huge amount of side quests. It maybe is not open world, but hell, i played open world games with less quests, so boring.

This game is a jewel, and everyone giving it an bad rewiev is from my opinion a spoled ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
And becouse of those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the game has such a bad vote and alot of people pass on it which whould love it.

[Aryxbez]

Originally posted by scottboy81:

I don't think it matters really, i highly doubt there will ever be a sequel,

I'm not really looking for a Sequel, at most, requesting DLC, or the Game Design Document (one includes all major details of the setting and junk). Regardless, not what this thread is about, but the compilation of Lore on The Ice Lords, as well use of imagination to what others thought the Ice Lords were possibly like.

The reason for this exercise, is for use in my own RP entertainment purposes.

Originally posted by Harleskin:

People who play this game on easy mode and then they are done in 14hrs, or they rush trough the game without doing sidequests, they complain.

You can feal how much erfort they put into this game. And you can feal the story is tight and there is a huge amount of side quests.

While I don't doubt there being a wealth of complainers who demand to play it on low difficulty, rush through it, and such. I will say I beat it in 14hrs playing it on Buffalo, doing nearly all the sidequests.

I disagree on the point of the story being "tight", sidequests being "huge", though I do think they put a good effort in the writing, and the setting itself. They wrote a good background to the setting to make it seem larger than it was, more invoking in that sense.

I'm unsure of this game being a "Jewel", but its a worthwhile, while rough experience that someone like me would find solid enjoyment in. After all, got me willing to beat it twice, and wanting to see more of the setting itself.

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Everything under Captain(hauptmann) is easy mode for me. You want it challenging, play Hauptmann mode, alot of enemys can kill you 2 hits, and you dont even get up before the 2nd.

[Aryxbez]

I edited my above post from yours for clarity, pardon the confusion, can see not really addressing what you said here.

I played it on the 2nd hardest difficulty: Buffalo, though I did try Captain when I first played. Found that enemes had too much HP in the beginning, MMO-style padded Sumo a good difficulty a game does not make. So I found that Buffalo was better about that while still being harder, albeit I possibly could've done Captain. I know the swamps in the early game are a bit padded sumo, as your gear is weak, and the enemies can be numerous.

Anyway, beside my clarified post, any new lore on The Ice Lords you've found when playing, OR any other thoughts what ye think the OTHER Ice Lords were like?

[paladin181]

I wish they'd been able to finish the game. You don't mention 8 ice lords at the beginning to ignore 7 of them. I'm pretty sure the game's original scope was going to be less grindy on the first ice lord and actually killing at least SOME of the rest to get access to the one you needed. But they seem to have run out of time and put it all on the first Ice Lord, who was a total pushover in combat, BTW.

[Leonair]

Maybe the next few ice lord battles will be sold as DLC.

[Aryxbez]

Originally posted by Leonair:

Maybe the next few ice lord battles will be sold as DLC.

I've been told they only do "one and done" type deals on their games, so there wouldn't be any DLC.


It was strange that he had all this Plot power of leveling an entire city with a sky wave, but his own powers were lacking. Though I guess it could be argued he used majority of the power he had on that city.

[Zuko77Elendil]

As per the Lore, they have access to near limited energy... So I doubt that was it ;) most likely though was, because if he used that power in the fight. The game would be impossible...

[Aryxbez]

Originally posted by Zuko77Elendil:

As per the Lore, they have access to near limited energy... So I doubt that was it ;) most likely though was, because if he used that power in the fight. The game would be impossible...

You're right, it was "Limited", since the plot near the end was in fact that the worldheart was drained and on its way out dying. Which is why it fought back and burned all the Ice Lords (making them all wear masks, kinda lame in sameness, but yeah).

So it can be surmised he possibly didn't have that power again. Though its true we lacked sufficient superpowers if he could've still been able to do that. From an RP-standpoint, I figure its some kind of ritual power that he couldn't simply done in middle of combat.