Silly AI!

[Layla Spellwind]

My villagers are all very stupid, the game has the potential to be fun, but with my villagers standing outside till they freeze to death, ignoring the tons of supplies, and one silly woman stealing all the food (Then standing outside and dying) it must be a bug. Or I must be doing something wrong, but my villagers are just so useless.

[jon157uk]

Hi Korkrag, this same thing has happened to me too. i have plenty of firewood, food, tools and warm coats but for some reason my people turned in to idiots and just wander around freezing or starving to death. Nothing I've tried will stop them, I've started a new game now because it was becoming very silly and very annoying....

[arealhumanbean]

Sometimes if you tell them to do something on the other side of a river, and there is a crossing way on the other side of the map, they will go all of the way to that crossing if you don't have a bridge built. The same thing happens if you have a gatherer, forester, hunter, or herbalist that has a gathering area over the river or over a mountain that requires them to go around. They go all of the way around and, if it's too far, they won't be able to make it back before they die.

As for freezing they need firewood, and when they start to freeze they go unresponsive and just walk around all frantic like. So if they start freezing they're pretty much dead unless someone else who isn't freezing gets firewood to a house. You only need one house with a fire though, because everyone can use it to warm up.

[Layla Spellwind]

I had a whole stock thingy full of Firewood, Completely full! 100%

[Betelgeuse]

thats not a bug its a feature! .. You get randomly dumb villagers ^^ (ohhh a fire.. nice and warm ^^)

[Layla Spellwind]

Well my whole village is usually full of stupid villagers.

[Betelgeuse]

i know ^^ .. mine too .. no wonder they are banished :D

[Layla Spellwind]

I'm sure someone will make a mod sometime to make villagers less dumb, then I can play the game again. But until then, uninstalled it be.

[dcbobo]

user error, the ai is actaully very good, with only minor quirks. This is a city building game, not a villager management game, no matter how it may appear that way, especially early. But the ai is designed to operate based on how well you build and plan your city. Bad AI is just bad decision making.

[Betelgeuse]

wait .. no simulation you say? ^^ .. thats EXACTLY a villager management game .. the few buildings you have cant be considered as a building game ... like DF or Gnomoria if you will you select Jobs for your Villagers and watch em failing in it ^^ (well i watched my farmer plowing the dirt path instead of the field and smart people here said its because of the broken tool ^^ .. even though all other farmers are not sticked to the Path :D)

[dcbobo]

It's the placement of those building that manages your villagers. so yah, it's about where, when and how much to build. It's quality, not quantity in this builder.

[Chris]

What annoyed me most was, that all my people were doing the laborer tasks, although they weren't laborer, but farmer, stonecutter, tailor, and and and... Everytime I did order some laborer tasks there was a narrow pass with food, tools and such :/
Then next thing is, that the people are changing their roles (meant are jobs) just so. The number of e.g. farmers itself doesn't change, but I don't like that (it's unrealistic) and I think this is not good for the economy aswell :/
And last but not least there are always problems when it comes to the builder who has to build some buildings: Instead of building the house with the existing ressources he's more likely doing the laborer tasks until they're done XD And it seems that the builder AI doesn't include the task of bringing the ressources to the construction site. I assume that this task is done by random workers like the laborer task is done this way, which affects the economy again.

I seriously don't want to say that the Ai or the hole game is dumb. The opposite is true :) It's an awesome experience and the developper deserves all respect I can bring. I only want to give constructive criticism to make the game an even better one so please don't take this post the wrong way ^_^

[Betelgeuse]

Thats no builder for me ... its like this game doesnt know what it wants to be .. is it a simulation? (too weak), a builder? (too few buildings) or something else .. whatever it is .. its definitely NOT the "City-Builder you've been waiting for" (<-- out of one of the most helpful Reviews) .. just look at the playtime of this "most helpful" Reviews

[dcbobo]

引用自 CptKiffMan：

Thats no builder for me ... its like this game doesnt know what it wants to be .. is it a simulation? (too weak), a builder? (too few buildings) or something else .. whatever it is .. its definitely NOT the "City-Builder you've been waiting for" (<-- out of one of the most helpful Reviews)

That's becasue you can't see the forest for the trees. Stop trying to micromanage your villagers and focus and plan better on your "city building" and you'll see just how smart this ai is.

[Chris]

It's for me a hardcore builder. Although you made a pretty good point: The game starts hardcore but after some time this turns and it becomes more and more a "the settlers" experience. Lots of people (like me) want more hardcore elements into the game, so that this survival stays in late game aswell. I already have some mod ideas, which I'll probably turn into a reality when the modding kit arrives :D
But I also "want" some simulation aspects like that the people don't change their jobs just so ^^ In the end I would tend to the hardcore side ;)

[Layla Spellwind]

I'm actually talking about the first few buildings, I couldn't get much done on the game because by either first or second winter all my villagers were dead because they aren't very smart.