Does mods disables achievements?

[unlike mars]

Does using mods for the game disable achievements?

[Claybot]

Yes

[Didz]

Yes

[unlike mars]

Originally posted by Didz:

Yes

Does it enable it again after i disabled it in the mod options? or do i need to uninstall the mod?

[Didz]

Originally posted by unlike_mars:

Originally posted by Didz:

Yes

Does it enable it again after i disabled it in the mod options? or do i need to uninstall the mod?

That's an interesting question and to be honest I don't know. My gut reaction is probably not but that's merely because I can see the obvious potential exploitation if that was the case.

Perhaps someone who regularly uses mods can confirm.

[maiden4meldin]

To be sure the mods are turned off. You do not need to uninstall them. You do need to start the game, go to the mods page, and disable all the mods. Then exit Banished. Now you can start a new game without mods.

Same goes for having modded games. You want to go to the mods, enable them, then close and exit Banished, and come back. All the mods you have enabled, will still be enabled.

[Didz]

Originally posted by maiden4meldin:

To be sure the mods are turned off. You do not need to uninstall them. You do need to start the game, go to the mods page, and disable all the mods. Then exit Banished. Now you can start a new game without mods.

Same goes for having modded games. You want to go to the mods, enable them, then close and exit Banished, and come back. All the mods you have enabled, will still be enabled.

So, can you start a game with mods active then having say built up a population of 500 x Bannies, can you switch off the mods and grab the achievement?

I think that was the gist of the question. But my gut instinct is that it wouldn't work.

[Gladi8er65]

Originally posted by Didz:

Originally posted by maiden4meldin:

To be sure the mods are turned off. You do not need to uninstall them. You do need to start the game, go to the mods page, and disable all the mods. Then exit Banished. Now you can start a new game without mods.

Same goes for having modded games. You want to go to the mods, enable them, then close and exit Banished, and come back. All the mods you have enabled, will still be enabled.

So, can you start a game with mods active then having say built up a population of 500 x Bannies, can you switch off the mods and grab the achievement?

I think that was the gist of the question. But my gut instinct is that it wouldn't work.

*** WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD.... DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT THE GAME RUINED FOR YOU ***

This is a subject that I know the answer to, and have purposely been 'silent' about, especially on previous threads concerning this subject, where someone asked for achievements to be possible using "cosmetic" mods...

Unfortunately, there is a flaw in the "vanilla-only" nature of the achievements, which i discovered completely by accident on another account,,,

I had been playing a game, heavily modded, and had built up a large population rather easily. I saved that game and started a new map / new game where i turned off all my mods to play vanilla. I later went and loaded up the older (modded) save, but forgot I had turned off all the mods, so when the game loaded, it suddenly started giving me achievements... It wasn't a GOOD surprise, because I did NOT want to get those achievements by cheating, but alas, that's exactly what inadvertently happened.

The answer is, that it IS very possible to artificially build up a huge town / city using mods and even very "cheat" mods such as Debug Menu (which lets you just add population, resources and buildings, free), then go back and shut off all the mods, load the save with no mods running and get the achievements.

I didn't wan't to reveal this before, but now that the subject is being "investigated" by other players, I have a feeling this information will soon be brought to light anyhow.

[unlike mars]

Originally posted by Gladi8er65:

Originally posted by Didz:

So, can you start a game with mods active then having say built up a population of 500 x Bannies, can you switch off the mods and grab the achievement?

I think that was the gist of the question. But my gut instinct is that it wouldn't work.

*** WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD.... DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT THE GAME RUINED FOR YOU ***

This is a subject that I know the answer to, and have purposely been 'silent' about, especially on previous threads concerning this subject, where someone asked for achievements to be possible using "cosmetic" mods...

Unfortunately, there is a flaw in the "vanilla-only" nature of the achievements, which i discovered completely by accident on another account,,,

I had been playing a game, heavily modded, and had built up a large population rather easily. I saved that game and started a new map / new game where i turned off all my mods to play vanilla. I later went and loaded up the older (modded) save, but forgot I had turned off all the mods, so when the game loaded, it suddenly started giving me achievements... It wasn't a GOOD surprise, because I did NOT want to get those achievements by cheating, but alas, that's exactly what inadvertently happened.

The answer is, that it IS very possible to artificially build up a huge town / city using mods and even very "cheat" mods such as Debug Menu (which lets you just add population, resources and buildings, free), then go back and shut off all the mods, load the save with no mods running and get the achievements.

I didn't wan't to reveal this before, but now that the subject is being "investigated" by other players, I have a feeling this information will soon be brought to light anyhow.

interesting, does it really take a long time to get it? i've been playing for a couple of days and haven't got a single achievement (i had mods off).

[HiFive]

Unlike many other games, there aren't very many achievements that will unlock right from the start from just playing the game. Rather, it works better if you check the achievement list, and then strive to meet the goal(s) for one or more achievements.

A few of the achievements can take a long time to complete, such as ones that require 100 or 200 years to pass, or require a large population count to be met. Most of the achievements are really fun to work toward and you feel like you have definitely achieved something when you finish them. I wouldn't want to get the achievements on this game any other way.

[Didz]

Originally posted by unlike_mars:

interesting, does it really take a long time to get it? i've been playing for a couple of days and haven't got a single achievement (i had mods off).

I suspect that depends upon how you play.

I had unlocked all the achievements the hard way when I first played the game, but for some reason (probably related to a recent disk failure) I lost the game completely and recently repurchased it on steam. So, I've had to start again, but I'm not really focusing on the task.

I'm now 30 years into the game with a population of 55 x Bannies and I've just unlocked my first achievement 'Trader' for trading a total of 50,000 units of goods.

It's also worth noting that you cannot complete every achievement in a single play through. Some of them are conflicted and some require special prerequisites to complete that one would not normally contemplate in a normal game.

[Ready2produce]

Hmm. I see, achievements for some players are like quests and puzzles for other players.

Its all a matter of what type of challenge a player likes.

Sorry, relying on (game designer) someone else for a challenge is just not me.

I like to create my own challenges ... not impressed by any game designer's efforts.

Kinda used to everyone doing a "???" when I demure ... seen many "???" responses.

Don't care if I crash and burn trying my own challenge ... mistakes-R-us.

[maiden4meldin]

Originally posted by Didz:

Originally posted by maiden4meldin:

To be sure the mods are turned off. You do not need to uninstall them. You do need to start the game, go to the mods page, and disable all the mods. Then exit Banished. Now you can start a new game without mods.

Same goes for having modded games. You want to go to the mods, enable them, then close and exit Banished, and come back. All the mods you have enabled, will still be enabled.

So, can you start a game with mods active then having say built up a population of 500 x Bannies, can you switch off the mods and grab the achievement?

I think that was the gist of the question. But my gut instinct is that it wouldn't work.

I might be possible as Gladiator has said, to disable all your mods, and restart that game unmodded, just to get achievements. But, you may or may not cause the game to crash entirely depending on what you built with the mods on. Say you built a CC blacksmith, without the mods turned on, that blacksmith's building will likely disappear from the map, or it may stay and be bugged, so if you try to click on it, it might or might not crash your game.

Frankly it isn't something I would choose to risk my township I worked hard on just to get a few achievements. I wish I could redo all my achievements now, but it just doesn't work that way. Unless I buy another Banished game from Steam, I won't be able to redo the achievements.

[pdoan8]

Most of Banished achievements are easy to get and some are not really a challenge (Firefighter, Golden Gate Bridge, Highwaymen,...). If you can build a prosper town with 1000 people, you can get most of the achievement.

As for using mod to "cheat" achievements, why doing it the hard and risky way? There is a software that can turn on/off all Steam achievements.

I normally don't really care much about Steam achievements. Except for a few that really fun to get. To me, it's a personal thing, not something to brag about.

[maiden4meldin]

Originally posted by pdoan8:

Most of Banished achievements are easy to get and some are not really a challenge (Firefighter, Golden Gate Bridge, Highwaymen,...). If you can build a prosper town with 1000 people, you can get most of the achievement.

As for using mod to "cheat" achievements, why doing it the hard and risky way? There is a software that can turn on/off all Steam achievements.

I normally don't really care much about Steam achievements. Except for a few that really fun to get. To me, it's a personal thing, not something to brag about.

I find it very interesting, how the same achievements available to everyone, can be easily obtained by some, and super hard for others. Like the Educated/Uneducated achievements. I got the Educated Achievement without giving it any thought whatsoever. It was easy for me to get. The Uneducated Achievement, definitely a white knuckle ride for me, I was so close to the death spiral so many times with that challenge, I barely scraped through it!

Others have claimed, Nomads, to be their nemesis, and yet, many claim Mountain Men are the hardest to get. For me, Nomads, and Mountain Men, were simple to get. Tenure is a test of patience, and how well you can manage a decent sized population over a long period time. Not hard, just a lot of boring spaces in it. For some, the Hoarder, or Ready for Anything challenge was hard for them to get, because they preferred a leaner game, and less about building surplus supplies. I got this one without even trying, All I had to do was build some Taverns, and collect the Ale, I also ordered in Ale to finish that one off.

The achievements aren't really something to brag about anyway. I consider them all to be the actual tutorial of Banished. They almost all taught me something, even the ones I never had any issues to get, like Hoarding supplies. I tend to be a lot less hoarderish now. And learned alot how to balance my supplies after finishing off that one.

[Didz]

Well even less so now that its revealed that you can cheat with mods. Sort of devalues the whole system.