Can we get achievements with mods yet?

[Dr. Ethan Kaatz]

I just want to add more content, I really shouldn't be disallowed to get achievements which give me nothing

[Claybot]

No, do the achievements then mod it all you want. But if you feel they're worthless why do you want them?

[olympe]

Originally posted by Claybot:

But if you feel they're worthless why do you want them?

Sour grapes. ;)

[firemoondrgon]

I am not getting any achievements either. I have played it for years and still not one achievement. None With or Without Mods

[Gladi8er65]

The very concept of achievements is to complete certain challenges whilst playing the VANILLA game... Using mods to complete those challenges, removes the "challenge" in it, and basically becomes "cheating", so WHY would you expect the achievements to be unlocked by using "cheats"?

I'm NOT saying it's wrong to play using mods... It can be quite fun exploring all the extra content that mods offer, however, The achievements are designed for vanilla so, if you want achievements have some of your playthrough saves as completely un-modded, and then, make new maps which use mods.

You can even use the same exact world seeds for both maps (one modded and one un-modded).

[Dr. Ethan Kaatz]

What if you want to use mods that expand on content instead of cheating? You just have to suffer because some people might cheat achievements

[Vrayna]

I'm afraid there was no way to put in a filter to decide which mods would be considered as cheats or not (and that would also depend on your definition of what should be considered cheating), so it's a global "no to achievements with mods" that was picked by the dev.

Some games are fine with achievements while using mods, some games aren't. Banished falls in that second category, and there's nothing anyone can do about it I'm afraid. Modders can't access the part of the game that checks for mods, so there's no way to bypass it.

[Gladi8er65]

Originally posted by Dr. Ethan Kaatz:

What if you want to use mods that expand on content instead of cheating? You just have to suffer because some people might cheat achievements

I am saying that using ANY mod, which changes the vanilla game, in the context of achievements, is "cheating".

All of the achievements were written / coded based around the vanilla game and are completed by playing the vanilla game.... It's not going to change... The developer has finished this game LONG ago and I seriously doubt he would ever revisit this especially to change the winning conditions of the achievements.

No one is stopping you from using mods.... you just cant complete achievements while using them, so, as i suggested before... make and play a map un-modded, if you really want the achievements, and use other maps WITH mods.

[Dr. Ethan Kaatz]

Regardless of what you say, many triple A games let you mod and still get achievements. The fact that you can't with this turns it from an 8 to a 1

[Koei]

oh oh.....

[Vrayna]

It's a decision that belongs to the game's dev, and the fact that it turns the game "from an 8 to a 1" is your opinion, not everyone will agree.
As I don't really care much about achievements, the fact that mods prevent getting them doesn't matter to me, so it doesn't make a change to how I value the game.
Some achievement "purists" will be of the opinion that having the ability to get them with mods would lower the "value" of the achievements. Some achievements "collectors" might agree with you in majority.

In the end there's noting we can do about it other than decide for each town we play what we want to go for: achievements with the vanilla taste, or diversity and the exotic taste of mods.

[maiden4meldin]

you are correct, technically the achievements give you nothing, but bragging rights. But, you are wrong. The achievements in this particular game, are much like a tutorial on the games mechanics in general terms that is. There really isn't a tutorial for this game perse`.

The achievements all taught me about the game in general. They taught me either patience, or were logistical problems to figure out. How to balance my game, while getting the various achievements, especially the ones with high population. They taught me that the Gathering Post is generally one of the best food producers in the game itself. And they taught me that having educated people is much more beneficial than having non educated people. Same for housing, and roads, Stone is underrated in the game imho, and Buy, or Quarrying, for me Stone houses are a must have, same for stone roads, as they provide my people with faster walking speed, so my goods get transferred faster, and the production goes up slightly when a road is paved with stone.

The other thing the games achievements taught me, were to trade, and trade alot of everything for food, and more food, as building food is a requirement, so is not building food, a great strategy to keep your producers making plenty of trade goods and underproducing food, means I have more land available to enjoy housing, rather than looking at a map of nothing but farms and more farms.

These are just a few examples of how pointless getting the achievements are.

[darkslimus]

Originally posted by Gladi8er65:

I am saying that using ANY mod, which changes the vanilla game, in the context of achievements, is "cheating".

All of the achievements were written / coded based around the vanilla game and are completed by playing the vanilla game....

This is your ¨POV but it'd not the POV of most of players who are not fluent in english.
The problem is not only in banished but in most game who have achievements, workshop and no translation. If you want to play in your natural language you have no achievements.

Some devs include the ability's to distinguish mods inside their game, others not and it's a shame. I speak for language mods but I can include UI mods to have bigger fonts for the oldtimers who have tired eyes like me...

A lot of mods are not cheating, just QOL for users cause devs don't have the time, the money or the interest to give this kind of contents. Some people take a lot of their time to complete the game where devs failed/don't care

I Bought the game, I use mod to translate it, I want my achievements like other players. I pay for it too

PS: I know there is no chance to see a change in banished but things must be said, modding is not cheating and translation and UI scale is a minimum when you make a game (specially games untranslated with a lot of small characters), and if you don't have time or money for that, let play your customer with achievements and mods !

[Vrayna]

Would have been nice indeed if there had been a difference made between "skin" mods for language/UI/looks and "mechanism" mds, but that's not the case and as you said, i's not going to change.

As a side note, there's a UI scale option that works decently unless you try to use a 4K resolution.

[demonessgamer]

What is the original Language of Banished ?

I have no mods installed just want to know before I even try to make achievements? I mean if I use English and game is German isn't that a modification also, realistic right? even translation made by Valve but still a mod, or ?

[Vrayna]

Banished is in English by default. I don't think there's a "play in a different language" option, at least there isn't one in the game itself (I don't have the Steam version).