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Heinzeus Aug 13, 2019 @ 10:51am
WW1 strategy game like coh2 or mowas2
How would a ww1 strategy game like coh2 or mowas2 work? Any ideas?
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Julius Aug 13, 2019 @ 1:46pm 
there is 'the great war 1918' which is a mod for Company of Heroes 1, available on steam. It is quite a good representation of the british and german armies of 1918. It doesnt really have much of an online playerbase but it's enjoyable vs AI or with friends.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/314420/The_Great_War_1918/?l=german
Heinzeus Aug 13, 2019 @ 9:36pm 
Originally posted by Julius:
there is 'the great war 1918' which is a mod for Company of Heroes 1, available on steam. It is quite a good representation of the british and german armies of 1918. It doesnt really have much of an online playerbase but it's enjoyable vs AI or with friends.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/314420/The_Great_War_1918/?l=german
I did play it but due to the mechanics of coh1(ww2) the game doesn't really feel like a good representation of ww1, however it was a very good attempt at making it but it still isn't a dedicated complete game, a total war game also has a ww1 mod( which is alot of fun) but still not a dedicated game.
Julius Aug 14, 2019 @ 4:18am 
Originally posted by heinzguderian1942:
Originally posted by Julius:
there is 'the great war 1918' which is a mod for Company of Heroes 1, available on steam. It is quite a good representation of the british and german armies of 1918. It doesnt really have much of an online playerbase but it's enjoyable vs AI or with friends.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/314420/The_Great_War_1918/?l=german
I did play it but due to the mechanics of coh1(ww2) the game doesn't really feel like a good representation of ww1, however it was a very good attempt at making it but it still isn't a dedicated complete game, a total war game also has a ww1 mod( which is alot of fun) but still not a dedicated game.

as the title of the mod suggests, it's about 1918 late war tactics of which it is quite a decent representation.
FUS Aug 14, 2019 @ 6:52am 
Originally posted by heinzguderian1942:
How would a ww1 strategy game like coh2 or mowas2 work? Any ideas?
Scale would be too small in my opinion. Ww1 needs something bigger, like Steel Division levels of bigger, a kilometers-wide sector to command and control.
As for dedicated games, there's currently 4 purchasable on steam:

1) The Entente Gold - a Cossacks sibling, if you familiar with that game, base building, lots of different troops, but no trenches. Also doesn't work out of the box on anything newer than Windows XP, fix can be found on steam forums;

2) "World War 1" - a Blitzkrieg sibling, more tactical than the previous one, infantry comes in squads, but you can't call in more troops yourself (at least in the campaign). Doesn't have any trench warfare either i believe.

3) Battle of the empires - a Man of War sibling, has all the bells and whistles of that game, the voice acting is atrocious however, and most countries are locked in by the DLC.

4) Agression: Europe under fire - a mix between a grand srategy and an rts, like Total War. Goes through both world wars. Very unstable, however, tends to crash a lot during ground battles.
Last edited by FUS; Aug 14, 2019 @ 6:55am
Julius Aug 14, 2019 @ 7:09am 
Originally posted by FusIntel ☠:
Originally posted by heinzguderian1942:
How would a ww1 strategy game like coh2 or mowas2 work? Any ideas?
Scale would be too small in my opinion. Ww1 needs something bigger, like Steel Division levels of bigger, a kilometers-wide sector to command and control.

again, as the game takes place in 1918, between the kaiserschlacht and the allies 100-day offensive you can imagine the smaller fights and skirmishes around villages behind the frontlines. the game also features quite sizable maps with a high popcap 'grand offensive' mode.

the thing with a ww1 steel division would probably be the lack of variety. With the lack of vehicle quantity and variety you have in WW2 i don't think it would translate too well into an infantry/artillery dominated scenario.
Heinzeus Aug 14, 2019 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by FusIntel ☠:
Originally posted by heinzguderian1942:
How would a ww1 strategy game like coh2 or mowas2 work? Any ideas?
Scale would be too small in my opinion. Ww1 needs something bigger, like Steel Division levels of bigger, a kilometers-wide sector to command and control.
As for dedicated games, there's currently 4 purchasable on steam:

1) The Entente Gold - a Cossacks sibling, if you familiar with that game, base building, lots of different troops, but no trenches. Also doesn't work out of the box on anything newer than Windows XP, fix can be found on steam forums;

2) "World War 1" - a Blitzkrieg sibling, more tactical than the previous one, infantry comes in squads, but you can't call in more troops yourself (at least in the campaign). Doesn't have any trench warfare either i believe.

3) Battle of the empires - a Man of War sibling, has all the bells and whistles of that game, the voice acting is atrocious however, and most countries are locked in by the DLC.

4) Agression: Europe under fire - a mix between a grand srategy and an rts, like Total War. Goes through both world wars. Very unstable, however, tends to crash a lot during ground battles.
Thank you! i didn't know about those games apart from battle of empires, i will try the others out too. I agree that ww1 mechanics are really complicated to pull off as not all of it was trenches, i think maybe we'll see an adequate ww1 strategy game in the future in which there is are both tactical and strategical options with campaigns and generals of of both factions.
Battle of Empires devs also like to steal people's work for use in their weak excuse for a paid mod (and they rather ironically lock the campaigns from being modded themselves)
NotLazyJustCrazy Sep 13, 2019 @ 1:00am 
Moving the topic, fine if you want to talk about other games, but please do it in the Off-Topic session, since the entire subject of this thread has nothing to do with Verdun or the WW1 Game Series.
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