Verdun
NoShotz Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:14pm
Why am i always given a pistol
Pistols are not a logical weapon to use when defending or attacking, and it is pissing me off that i can never use a rifle
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SlpWlkr Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:20pm 
It's a class and squadbased game where weapons are issued accordingly. You can get a variety by lv up classes but even at the start your squad and class choice matters:
Close combat squads like the Canadians or Stoßtruppen get mainly pistols, recon squads
( Chasseur&Alpenjäger) get mainy carbines and the Landser, Poilus and Tommy squads get a mixture of rifles, mgs and pistols.
Last edited by SlpWlkr; Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:21pm
NoShotz Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Carbohydrate:
It's a class and squadbased game where weapons are issued accordingly. You can get a variety by lv up classes but even at the start your squad and class choice matters:
Close combat squads like the Canadians or Stoßtruppen get mainly pistols, recon squads
( Chasseur&Alpenjäger) get mainy carbines and the Landser, Poilus and Tommy squads get a mixture of rifles, mgs and pistols.
i have had the game since September 26th, 2013, and at the last time i played, the only person with a pistol was the officer
Last edited by NoShotz; Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:31pm
Hololo Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:33pm 
Well now there is hen assault squad for each faction and thos have mostly pistol.
NoShotz Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Hololo:
Well now there is hen assault squad for each faction and thos have mostly pistol.
who the hell runs towards enemys wielding just a pistol, it doenst make sense logicaly
Hololo Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:37pm 
SIGH it's the principle of hen assault squad your not supposed to engage at far range with those but only concentrate on getting into ennemy trench and clean it with your close combat weapon.
PS : If you don't like pistol don't play Stoßtruppen or Canadian seriously....
Last edited by Hololo; Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:38pm
NoShotz Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Hololo:
SIGH it's the principle of hen assault squad your not supposed to engage at far range with those but only concentrate on getting into ennemy trench and clean it with your close combat weapon.
it also doesnt make much sense from a history standpoint, as any historicaly acturate WW1 movie i have watched, and i have watched a lot, the majority of soldiers were carrying rifles.
Hololo Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:42pm 
Yeah the majority, but thos can be considered as hen "elite" force ingame and bolt rifle are not ideal for close combat.
NoShotz Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:43pm 
the main problem for me is that i hate using pistols, and i can never get a class that has a rifle
Hololo Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:45pm 
Well you should only choose to plays as Landser/Poilu/Tommy or Alpenjager/Chasseur Alpin.
NoShotz Sep 28, 2014 @ 3:48pm 
i would, but i like playing as a canadian, as i am a canadian
Ketsa Sep 28, 2014 @ 4:07pm 
Pistols for CQC, trench raiding/flanking/defending trenches, faster fire rate, more mobile.
Logically, why wouldn't you run towards the enemy trenches with a pistol?
Eckhart Sep 28, 2014 @ 4:11pm 
Canadian eh? Well don't trust movies but read books about WW1. The majority of wounds and the highest death rate inflicted were due to shrapnel (more than 80%!) and not rifle fire or melee weapons (source; "the last full measure or how soldiers die in battle").

This is not the case with this game, otherwise it would become too frustrating to be killed by an anonymous force most of the time.


Therefore the main scenario of this game would be called a "trench raid" (mortar fire, portable machine guns, rifles , pistols, clubs, spades, knives, hand-grenades).

Rifles were used defensively as a complement to machine gun fire which was the most efficient way of disposing of large numbers of the enemy. As an offensive weapon inside the trench, rifles were unwieldy as trenches were very narrow. This is not completely reflected right now in the game and a rifle has the upper hand in the "Verdun" game.
Moving your rifle around in a trench was difficult and therefore most combatants preferred pistols (the Luger was the most cherished one on both sides as were German field-glasses ;-), clubs or spades and a lot of hand-grenades. The ideal composition of an attack team was the grenade thrower with a second who was carrying extra grenades and a rifle to shoot anything which still moved.

Officers sometimes took rifles during attacks in order not to be picked up by enemy sharpshooters (source: "storms of steel").

I understand your problem. Rifles are right now way too efficient in the trench in "Verdun". IRL you would need more time to get to aim as movement is restricted for a rifle in the Trench. Naturally a rifle has higher stopping power than a pistol and that is quite accurately reflected in this game (source: "SAS handbook").

You need to be more agile with your revolver and work your way close up which is hard. You will kill less than just by sitting in your shell-hole and sniping but after learning the trade it can be fun to attack with a pistol and a spade or club...;-)

Cheers eh!
Ketsa Sep 28, 2014 @ 4:16pm 
Originally posted by Eckhart:
-SNIP-

Well done.
Last edited by Ketsa; Sep 28, 2014 @ 4:16pm
Tomus Oct 12, 2014 @ 3:39pm 
Every time i play I seem to get stuck with a pistol. Surely a rifle should be the default. I've actually given up playing because I spend most of the time with a pistol which feels wrong. What am I doing wrong? Just to sa I seem to be locked into the role, I can't change squads, create a new one or do anything.
Last edited by Tomus; Oct 12, 2014 @ 3:40pm
Bishop Oct 12, 2014 @ 4:01pm 
choosing the wrong squad, loadout and role. create any squad other then Canadian/Stoss and don't choose the NCO of the Landser/Poilus/Tommies.
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