Lewis Gun Rambos

[Sherman]

The current ability of players to run and gun with the Lewis gun is a strike against this game. Whenever someone decides to go Rambo with the Lewis gun it is pretty much game over for the other team. I would like to see this toned down to give a more realistic respresentation of what soldiers could actually do with this weapon. I am sure WW 1 would have been over a lot quicker if British soldiers could have just swept the trenches by running and gunning through them with Lewis guns.

[Bishop]

The accuracy is terrible with it, it's rather short range and has a distinctive sound so a rifle or carbine equipped player can easily take them out.

There is the long standing issue between the hipfire of the Lewis vs the Chauchat and it's not reached a consensus.

[PrivatePorpoise]

If you google "Lewis gun trench clearing" you'll find a few results that talk about it. One title by Paddy Griffith, Battle Tactics of the Western Front: the British Army's Art of Attack, 1916-1918 , discusses some instances where combatants armed with lewis guns were attached to infantry units in order to help clear trenches.

Grenades and precise rifle fire are some things that can help. Other than that, there are plenty of ways to outsmart people in this game, generally speaking.

Edit: Chapter 7, pg. 134 talks about lewis gun trench clearing.

[Big Duke]

It's not that good . You're being overly dramatic .

[SeveNations]

I think this is mostly because of balancing of the game. Without any hipfire-able, decent RoF MG, entente wouldn't have any counter against MP-18s or even 08/15s. When weapons update released, maybe we can see more balanced gameplay for both sides with more variety of weaponary that would be coming handy in certain situations.

Originally posted by Bishop:

The accuracy is terrible with it, it's rather short range and has a distinctive sound so a rifle or carbine equipped player can easily take them out.

+1, if u ever heard lewis gunner coming, just take a step back and aim for his body (as he can't run if no nco in high level squad around and can't quickly go prone without setting up the MG) and shoot through supression. Works most of the time for me ^^

[RSW2002]

Was so annoyed by the hipfiring lewis gunners in the beginning as well. Got over it when I realised that they are very easy to pick off (especially if they waste their limited ammo) and that they usually get taken out very quickly once that distinctive sound is heard.

[Sherman]

Originally posted by X-BigDukeSix:

It's not that good . You're being overly dramatic .

I have only been playing for a month now, but I have not yet seen a team win when someone on the other side starts hipfiring with the lewis.

[Big Duke]

Originally posted by Sherman:

Originally posted by X-BigDukeSix:

It's not that good . You're being overly dramatic .

I have only been playing for a month now, but I have not yet seen a team win when someone on the other side starts hipfiring with the lewis.

The Lewis gun and its gunner aren't any more difficult to defeat than any other player who has breached, quite easier in my opinion. You'll see this if you stick with verdun . A lot of new players are fearful of the Lewis in game because they don't know its liabilities .

Neither I nor any of my teammates find the Lewis gun to be OP in any way. And the players in X that are good machine gunners actually prefer the Chauchat when we play entente.

[Lady Helen "Bio" Rodriguez]

Oh yeah, its a bit intimidating at first, but you quickly realize that at a distance, its pretty much worthless. That, and the sound is so noticable, that the gunner rarely lasts very long in the trench without back up. None of the MGs are OP, not the MP18i and its insane recoil, or the Lewis and its terrible accuarcy.

[Siverian]

As for accuracy lewis gunners were picked from the best of shots, with the highest marksman qualification. Usually the nco of the section will bee wielding the lewis gun. While the army didnt officially adopt 'walking fire' dectorine unlike the french. There are accounts of soldiers firing lewis gun from hip and shoulder, being quite effective with it.

[Sherman]

Originally posted by Vladimir:

If you google "Lewis gun trench clearing" you'll find a few results that talk about it. One title by Paddy Griffith, Battle Tactics of the Western Front: the British Army's Art of Attack, 1916-1918 , discusses some instances where combatants armed with lewis guns were attached to infantry units in order to help clear trenches.

Grenades and precise rifle fire are some things that can help. Other than that, there are plenty of ways to outsmart people in this game, generally speaking.

Edit: Chapter 7, pg. 134 talks about lewis gun trench clearing.

Thanks for the reference! One of the reasons I like this game is I am a history nerd who is facinated with WW I. The portable MGs just feel out of place to me (including the MP-18), and ruin my ability to immerse myself in the game. Of course, it is a game rather than a historical simulator, and different people are looking for different things from the game.

[{O|G} Erik the Red]

Perhaps if the sights were better (allowing better visibility), or the deployment system easier to work with, people would rambo less.

The lewis would be a great deployable entente gun if it didn't have crap visibility.

[n0rm_]

Is it bad I'm terrified every time i come up against one. But it's really crazy inaccurate. Sometimes a guy will shoot circles around me. Though sometimes that suppression saves them. But hipfire balances it.

[Scion of Decay]

I like how all these people are like "PORTABLE MGS RUIN IMMERSION" or "SIGHTS ARE BAD", this game is pretty damn historically accurate, and it'll only get better

[sharpendkill]

I quite dislike the sights of the Lewis gun in this game.
Although if any changes was to happen with the sites of the Lewis gun how do you think the developers could make the sights more pleasant to use?

[LV|Ironstorm767]

Have the sights transparent when you hold shift and focus your aim..?