Verdun
PotatoEternal 26 nov. 2018 às 17:19
Second new squad ideas?
WIth the announcement of a new squad coming to the game, I've been trying to brew up an idea on who it could possibly be, and I've come up with 2 possible ideas:

1: British Indian Troops
2: German Marines

There's been a lot of support for both of these factions coming into the game at some point, but I'm not sure which one it's going to be. DO you have some ideas of your own, or do you agree with me? Comment your thoughts
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biggalloot 30 nov. 2018 às 8:51 
radek:

exploring this more while making the box even larger:

so imagine some future "french" mixed squad to have a number of different nationalities. let's also for the sake of argument say that the Czech Legion is only available at co-op levels 71-80. as i mentioned, one can play the Czech all the time in private matches if set at those levels, but what about public games? what if radek wants to play Czech Legion with friends in a public match and they find themselves at co-op level 100?

i wonder if "prestige" can include an optional reward for public matches restricted to level 100 co-op teams. in addition to the team vote given to all teams at all levels for changing squad types (staying at their existing level), why not allow the most experienced and dedicated teams a vote to play at a voluntarily lower level of their choosing in a public match?

Example One: radek and friends have often played Verdun and find themselves at co-op level 100, but they want to play as Czech Legion at level 71 to 80. why not reward his experienced team with "prestige" the choice to voluntarily play public matches at that lower level they can vote upon? radek and his pals would still be required to reach co-op level 100 in order to be given this reward of voluntarily lowering their squad level.

Example Two: biggalloot has played with hundreds and more likely thousands of verduners and only rarely now has a chance to play any public game at co-op level 1. If biggalloot ever plays as Poilus or Belgians in a public match he is unlikely to get a chance to play with the red pants of the Poilus or the top hats of the Belgians since both are only found at co-op level 1. why not allow biggalloot if he ever plays as co-op level 100 with some friends the choice to voluntarily have a vote within his team to play that public game at a lower level of their choosing and once again play a public match with red pants or a top hat?

Example Three: developer leo wants to play a public game with the other developers as a team but they do wish to be modest and do not want to be the only team with level 100 creeping barrage. allow his level 100 team a vote to play at a lower level if they so wish.

the vote for lower squad quality given as a benefit for level 100 co-op teams should be only available in public matches. for example, someone wishing to set up and host a private game with all teams at level 1 should not have a few teams breaking that template through team vote.

Footnote:

I did not mean this as off-topic. I am still exploring what a mixed "french" or "british" squad might include.
Última alteração por biggalloot; 30 nov. 2018 às 13:32
panchovilia1 30 nov. 2018 às 9:03 
new squad
what about new squad
2Ch | Woeski 30 nov. 2018 às 9:15 
What are you trying to ask here?
biggalloot 4 dez. 2018 às 9:10 
interesting hints about the new squad are seemingly being forwarded. click to play verdun and pause to read the news listed there.
alternative hints are found at the 1914-18 Series Facebook page. Facebook page has a coded message and an unique-looking squad type action picture.
Última alteração por biggalloot; 4 dez. 2018 às 9:44
Pretty sure its confirmed they are Senegalese now.
Bran Mak Morn 4 dez. 2018 às 11:37 
it's beyond the shadow of a doubt the tirailleurs sénégalais. which means we're gettign the OF1 grenade, the 1907 berthier rifle (seen on the screen cap on fb) and most likely the typical machete they had for close combat. great choice. i would have prefered the 1902 berthier gameplay wise but i hope they'll add that squad in the future.
Originalmente postado por Temujin:
it's beyond the shadow of a doubt the tirailleurs sénégalais. which means we're gettign the OF1 grenade, the 1907 berthier rifle (seen on the screen cap on fb) and most likely the typical machete they had for close combat. great choice. i would have prefered the 1902 berthier gameplay wise but i hope they'll add that squad in the future.

Indochinese squad would be another good one. They are physically distinct (tier one could have the conical hats and later squads would have adrian helmets) and have a very unique rifle. (almost like a longer carbine).
Bran Mak Morn 4 dez. 2018 às 11:51 
exactly. also maybe add another pistol or somethign and yet another type of grenade like the thévenot or something.
biggalloot 4 dez. 2018 às 12:10 
if "senegalese," keep a few things in mind.

first, the troops from what was then French West Africa came from Senegal, Mali, Guinea, Benin, Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast, and Niger. they were all called Senegalese for convenience.

147,000 total deaths in WW1 by troops from Canada, Australia, and New Zealand COMBINED.

167,000 total deaths in WW1 by those nations i previously mentioned from French West Africa COMBINED according to an estimate made by a Russian source found at Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

regardless of the true numbers, the "Senegalese" served with honor and distinction and suffered greatly for France.

if that russian estimate of 167+K killed serving France during WW1 from French West Africa is even close to being correct, the "Senegalese" should be a very worthy addition to the Verdun Series.

that Wiki link otherwise mentions:
26K killed from Algeria serving France.
12K killed from Indochina serving France.
8K killed from Morocco serving France.
2K killed from Tunisia serving France.

even people like me who have made an effort to study the history of The Great War has to be surprised by the support given France given by those brave men from French West Africa.
Última alteração por biggalloot; 4 dez. 2018 às 14:35
Originalmente postado por biggalloot:
if "senegalese," keep a few things in mind.

first, the troops from what was then French West Africa came from Senegal, Mali, Guinea, Benin, Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast, and Niger. they were all called Senegalese for convenience.

147 thousand total deaths in WW1 by troops from Canada, Australia, and New Zealand combined.

167 thousand total deaths in WW1 by those nations i mentioned from French West Africa combined according to an estimate made by a Russian source found at Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

regardless of the true numbers, the "Senegalese" served with honor and distinction and suffered greatly for France.

if that russian estimate of 167+K killed serving France during WW1 from French West Africa is even nearly correct, the "Senegalese" should be very worthy.

that Wiki link mentions:
26K killed from Algeria serving France.
12K killed from Indochina serving France.
8K killed from Morocco serving France.
2K killed from Tunisia serving France.

even people like me who have made an effort to study the history of The Great War has to be surprised by the support given France given by French West Africa.

These are very interesting stastics! I've been studying the colonial empires during this era and its amazing to see the scale of it.
Basil Leaf 4 dez. 2018 às 14:01 
I'd love to see the Indochinese in a future update because of their unique Berthier (I definitely wouldn't mind a Mousqueton with less sway), but I don't know what role they could fill.
Wild Weasel 5 dez. 2018 às 21:40 
Originalmente postado por Temujin:
it's inevitably going to be french colonials, sénégalese or indochinese. i hope we never see german "marines" in this game, that was a pet issue of Luna alone...
I don't blame Luna for having that sentiment. I remember Bishop saying "Australians will never be added because they don't bring anything new to the game." Instead of adding more Central Power squads like Luna proposed, they reversed themselves and added the Australians.

Personally, this game needs more Central Power representation.
Bishop 6 dez. 2018 às 2:37 
Originalmente postado por SH | 329 | Cpl. M. Kowalski:
I don't blame Luna for having that sentiment. I remember Bishop saying "Australians will never be added because they don't bring anything new to the game." Instead of adding more Central Power squads like Luna proposed, they reversed themselves and added the Australians.

Personally, this game needs more Central Power representation.
We try not to use the "never be added" on things that were around and saw combat during the war. We try to go with "what will they bring that's new?" and if no real addition can be made they wont be. It needs to add options to the game to be added, The ANZACs do.

The long standing issue is still the same, the Central powers lack new equipment to add for a new squad.
Isylon 6 dez. 2018 às 4:47 
I am far from being a Kaiser fanboy, but I also feel that the Central Powers should get some love as well. Though can't really think of anything that would bring new flavour, unless we force some Autro-Hungarians to appear.

Maybe if the game would be expanded to Verdun & Isonzo then we should have the long awaited Italians and Austro-Hungarians with the already existing German squads and Entente squads helping in, as historically they have been sent to the Italian front as reinforcment. Maybe limit them to one original "Verdun" squad per battle. I think the Italian front would fit in with Verdun as it is pretty much the (South)-Western front and too small to have it's own game as of my point of view.
Bran Mak Morn 6 dez. 2018 às 9:09 
Originalmente postado por SH | 329 | Cpl. M. Kowalski:
Originalmente postado por Temujin:
it's inevitably going to be french colonials, sénégalese or indochinese. i hope we never see german "marines" in this game, that was a pet issue of Luna alone...
I don't blame Luna for having that sentiment. I remember Bishop saying "Australians will never be added because they don't bring anything new to the game." Instead of adding more Central Power squads like Luna proposed, they reversed themselves and added the Australians.

Personally, this game needs more Central Power representation.

the western front was overwhelmingly a german-only affair so there will inherently be fewer CP squads than entente, who conversely were very diverse. instead of pointing out how many entente squads there are compared to CP squads, you should be happy that the entente right now has more than five squad options.

i once proposed to have certain entente nations locked to certain sectors/maps, so you would never see say belgians outside of flanders and no commonwealth in vosges and so on, which could also be interesting gameplay wise. and now with the addition of an additional french squad, this option is gettign more realistic as the commonwealth and french by themselves get closer to the number of german squads.
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