Neva
diesoon Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:01pm
Why it's never a guy, with these cutetsy, artsy-fartsy games?
First of all the game screams BEAUTY. It's so beautiful! Oh GOD! It's so OBVIOUS. Cutesy lady and cutesy fox. And they hug. Awwwww! Can't it be humble for once? Low key?
Second of all, why it's always women? Because they're cute, and fun and BEAUTIFUL? Because they're morally better? Because guys ain't ♥♥♥♥ and ugly and their breath stinks?
You know women almost never REALLY fight physically? Almost never, and those that do, are extreme versions of women. It's hard to believe all these women kicking ass in video games. It was old many years ago.
I would just like to play a guy in a POIGNANT story and game for once. I want a sensitive, meaningful story about a MAN.
Last edited by diesoon; Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:03pm
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Athena Oct 30, 2024 @ 1:27am 
Give Brothers - A Tale of Two Sons a try.
Astrid_Brüsch Oct 30, 2024 @ 9:55am 
You know most men aren't bulked and ready to fight? In fact i know man that aren't that far away from Austin Power body. So do y rant about women? In the past, patriarchy prevented women from being able to express themselves even through exercise, today it is not difficult to meet super-trained, muscular women who can break you in two in an instant.

There are many games with poignant story having a man as protagonist:
- The Last Guardian, Shadow of the Colossus, Ico, all three have a male protagonist
- The last of us part 1, Joel :)
- Silent Hill 2, now with the remake you can enjoy one of the best horror/romantic story ever written.
- The Witcher saga as a strong male protagonist, in Wild Hunt Geralt plays a fantastic father figure to Ciri.
- God of War the Norse Saga, Kraton is a strong male and the story is amazing.

I mean, come one there are beautiful alternative.
Zelakon Oct 30, 2024 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Astrid_Brüsch:
You know most men aren't bulked and ready to fight? In fact i know man that aren't that far away from Austin Power body. So do y rant about women? In the past, patriarchy prevented women from being able to express themselves even through exercise, today it is not difficult to meet super-trained, muscular women who can break you in two in an instant.
Whilst what you say isn't false, OP raises the issue that most of these more delicate (dare I say feminine) indie games tend to have a female protagonist.

I think the reason for that is that they require maternal sensibilities to drive the emotion, which you can't really get from having a male protag.

That's not to say games like The Witcher and GoW don't display paternal qualities (which work in favour of their plots and interpersonal relationships), but those aren't really the same genre of game as GRIS or Neva.

That being said, there are some games in the same style that leave it intentionally ambiguous/androgynous to avoid this very issue (such as Journey and ABZU).

Brothers is a great shout though. I think if that were being developed today they would've gone for Sisters, lol.
Chaotic Entropy Oct 30, 2024 @ 2:54pm 
What in the world is wrong with you.
Srmcpollo Oct 30, 2024 @ 8:16pm 
if you are looking for poingnat games with male protagoniste, you have inmost a truly underrated game.
or Vlad circus descent into madnes (this more like survival horror tho )
hoon Nov 1, 2024 @ 1:21pm 
2 out of 2 is of course "always". Great logic
An Angry Turtle Nov 3, 2024 @ 9:32am 
Looked good, but I don't want to play as Diversity Dani, so... I won't buy it.
Kyir Nov 3, 2024 @ 5:20pm 
Now.. imagine artsy cutesy game with male protagonist. Soft, huging the wolf, calling emotionally. How many idiots will start screaming "gay", "woke", "DEI". I would guess you would be one of them.
Female protagonist fits this type of pastell colored artsy game the best. And there are hundreds of games with male protagonists.
diesoon Nov 3, 2024 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Kyir:
Now.. imagine artsy cutesy game with male protagonist. Soft, huging the wolf, calling emotionally. How many idiots will start screaming "gay", "woke", "DEI". I would guess you would be one of them.
Female protagonist fits this type of pastell colored artsy game the best. And there are hundreds of games with male protagonists.
Why would I be calling it gay if I'm the one that wants a male protagonist? Illogical. You're talking about yourself!
Astrid_Brüsch Nov 4, 2024 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by Kyir:
Now.. imagine artsy cutesy game with male protagonist. Soft, huging the wolf, calling emotionally. How many idiots will start screaming "gay", "woke", "DEI". I would guess you would be one of them.
Female protagonist fits this type of pastell colored artsy game the best. And there are hundreds of games with male protagonists.

the overall reaction would have been more as you described... maybe, but we ain´t sure of that. The Last Guardian has a young boy as protagonist, that calls Trico in the same sense of urgency as Alba to Neva, and it works just fine. I don´t see the point of arguing actually, this was the developer´s choice, and yeah, there are lots of games with male protagonist.
Kyir Nov 4, 2024 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Astrid_Brüsch:
The Last Guardian has a young boy as protagonist, that calls Trico in the same sense of urgency as Alba to Neva, and it works just fine.

Point here is, different art style.
And yes it is developers choice. But personally, I say female protagoniost does fit overall art style of Neva more than male one could. And I say that as a guy who prefers, if given choice, playing as male protagonist.
Kyir Nov 4, 2024 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by diesoon:
Why would I be calling it gay if I'm the one that wants a male protagonist? Illogical. You're talking about yourself!
Because you're giving off some very serious troll vibes.
Athena Nov 4, 2024 @ 5:53am 
Oh, he is. Don't bother with this guy.
Astrid_Brüsch Nov 4, 2024 @ 8:21am 
Originally posted by Kyir:
Originally posted by Astrid_Brüsch:
The Last Guardian has a young boy as protagonist, that calls Trico in the same sense of urgency as Alba to Neva, and it works just fine.

Point here is, different art style.
And yes it is developers choice. But personally, I say female protagoniost does fit overall art style of Neva more than male one could. And I say that as a guy who prefers, if given choice, playing as male protagonist.
But in fact i´m not arguing the choice made, i love Alba and she´s the best fit for the role. It´s just sad to see that someone ain´t happy to play such a game because of gender -_-
Conrad Roset´s style is very feminine, saw also his private stuff, a male as you said wouldn´t fit.
Paul Nov 4, 2024 @ 11:08am 
Brothers, Limbo, Inside, Rime, Jusant, hyper light drifter
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