Adressing the elephant in the room.

[Raisen]

We know after 0.6 ... 0.7 will be focus to what is left, who is basically Gen 3 and 4, and 0.8 will be probably been Gen 5 and HoloX (Gen 6). If you know a little of story about Hololive you will remember 3 out of those 4 has only 4 out 5 active members so here is 2 questions.

Knowing Coco will be for sure, because the entire repertory of things (Plug type, Breathing type and injection type Asacoco) exist in the game. But what about certain green Necromancer? since she part ways in "not good terms" due the situation who lead to her dismisal, but her time was significant (2 years and half), plus she was still referenced on stage 3. And what about certain pink succubi? Since her time was a little shorten (3 weeks) compared with the one i mentioned it before, but her Akumic still referenced in the game.

The main question is: Will they still been listed as Playable Characters since that will be the logical way? OR they will be left out for diferent circumstances? (one the dismissal and the other for her short period).

This one will be open to any argument since both sides has their own logic to be right.

[Fatherz]

The impression I get from replies in other threads when I raised this matter seems to be:

"If HoloCure was an official Hololive-licensed game, Coco, Rushia and Aloe probably wouldn't appear as playable characters." (Or worse, be some kind of DLC. *shivers*)

That said, Kay Yu wants to keep HoloCure as a passion project and a free fan-game for Hololive fans, made without the goal of monetary gain. So while this means we won't see stuff like Steam trading cards and badges, as well as Points Shop items (backgrounds, avatars, stickers, emotes, etc.), it gives more leeway for Kay Yu and the HoloCure team to include beloved members who already graduated--or terminated in the case of Rushia.

Heck, Sana already graduated but is still in the game, along with her Limiter and Size Up stamp (items referencing her).

The only likely exception is Hitomi Chris, since she's pretty much Hololive's "persona non grata".

I still have hope that Coco, Rushia and Aloe will still be included in 0.7 and 0.8. Their related items are already referenced in-game, after all.

Coco - Plug-In Asacoco, Breathe-In Asacoco, Injection-Type Asacoco (EDIT: Dragon Fire too.)
Aloe - Headphones
Rushia - Cutting Board (even though it's Ina who unlocks it)

[RobDeLaMorte]

I can't think of any reason not to include them. Besides, it'd kill a good chunk of goodwill if Cover suddenly put their foot down and were like "NO GREEN GIRL". Despite the mess that happened, people still miss her.

Having said that, putting Hitomi Chris in would have been based. xD Though with only a single stream, it'd be impossible to give her any kind of relevant skills or weapons.

[Raisen]

Originally posted by Fatherz:

The impression I get from replies in other threads when I raised this matter seems to be:

"If HoloCure was an official Hololive-licensed game, Coco, Rushia and Aloe probably wouldn't appear as playable characters." (Or worse, be some kind of DLC. *shivers*)

That said, Kay Yu wants to keep HoloCure as a passion project and a free fan-game for Hololive fans, made without the goal of monetary gain. So while this means we won't see stuff like Steam trading cards and badges, as well as Points Shop items (backgrounds, avatars, stickers, emotes, etc.), it gives more leeway for Kay Yu and the HoloCure team to include beloved members who already graduated--or terminated in the case of Rushia.

Heck, Sana already graduated but is still in the game, along with her Limiter and Size Up stamp (items referencing her).

The only likely exception is Hitomi Chris, since she's pretty much Hololive's "persona non grata".

I still have hope that Coco, Rushia and Aloe will still be included in 0.7 and 0.8. Their related items are already referenced in-game, after all.

Coco - Plug-In Asacoco, Breathe-In Asacoco, Injection-Type Asacoco (EDIT: Dragon Fire too.)
Aloe - Headphones
Rushia - Cutting Board (even though it's Ina who unlocks it)

YES!!! that is the thing. There is also 2 reasons why i think Rushia Yes but Aloe not (again i will love both to appear). The reason is there is material Kay can use for Rushia ... A LOT of material that make easier to work around. But there is so low material for Aloe who is basically "Succubi idol" ... and that is the end. Unless Kay pull the most based move and basically subtle pull out the some material straight from Delta instead and adapt it to Aloe. Of course it doesn't discourage it because Kay already said he had to work around to multuiple of the already existent ones who he doesn't had a lot of material to work around it.

I was thinking the same as you: "I don't think they had any problem at all either since this is a free game".

BUT my concern is because Kay want also the girls to play the game. For Coco there is no problems, but i wonder what will be the case for Rushia and Aloe too. AGAIN i know they won't do anything because games like Idol Showdown already did reference to them too. Same with Sana.

[Raisen]

Originally posted by RobDeLaMorte:

I can't think of any reason not to include them. Besides, it'd kill a good chunk of goodwill if Cover suddenly put their foot down and were like "NO GREEN GIRL". Despite the mess that happened, people still miss her.

Having said that, putting Hitomi Chris in would have been based. xD Though with only a single stream, it'd be impossible to give her any kind of relevant skills or weapons.

For Rushia i agree ... for Redacted-chan that is another story for multiple reasons.

[✠Furina de Fontaine✙🇩🇪]

Would be great ti Play as Rushia, Coco or Mano. :) I Hope they will BE added.

[Fatherz]

We'll just have to see if 0.6 has a gacha banner preview similar to this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3013249160

EDIT: And to answer your question on how I got 10 million+ HoloCoins:

• 21 GreedRyS runs on Stage 1 Normal.
  
• 21 GreedRyS runs on Stage 2 Normal.
  
• 11 GreedRyS runs on Stage 3 Normal.

All of varying difficulty (first 10 usually used either Halu or Marketing, later ones had both) and varying 'success' (had some sub-30s on Stage 3).

And also, doing the Fandom goals the hard way for some members of EN Myth, CouncilRyS and JP Gen 0 (5 wins for Fan rank, 10 wins for Oshi rank). Even the JP Gen 1, Gen 2 and Gamers HoloMems who I got to Fan rank via gacha (G.Rank) had to do at least 5 runs on Stage 1 Normal. (Already bought most of the Shop upgrades by the time I got JP Gen 1, Gen 2 and Gamers.)

[Astasia]

Rushia and Coco were basically confirmed by the developer on reddit a while back.

Somebody asked:
"Is there a chance to see Friend-C and Friend-R later on?"

And the dev response was:
"Yes."

[Jurani]

Graduated talent is not an issue. They parted ways with the company with no ill will. Aloe and Coco graduated so they're no problem to include.

Rushia is the only one who was terminated. I can see it being an issue including her for current talent to stream the game. Maybe if it does become an issue the steam version might leave her out and Kay-Yu would have a dlc available somewhere else to add her back in.

[Cymelion]

I'm of the opinion that the easiest solution is that the former members could be unlocked with an unlock code (Think Konami code) that way they're still included and the Holomems that want to unlock them on stream can if they want to or leave it as is if they don't or find it too painful memory wise.

This avoids any fuss or discomfort without ignoring their legacies.

[Raisen]

Originally posted by Astasia:

Rushia and Coco were basically confirmed by the developer on reddit a while back.

Somebody asked:
"Is there a chance to see Friend-C and Friend-R later on?"

And the dev response was:
"Yes."

That awnser perfectly. I probably missed that before. But i heard only about Coco when someone asked.

[Raisen]

Originally posted by Jurani:

Graduated talent is not an issue. They parted ways with the company with no ill will. Aloe and Coco graduated so they're no problem to include.

Rushia is the only one who was terminated. I can see it being an issue including her for current talent to stream the game. Maybe if it does become an issue the steam version might leave her out and Kay-Yu would have a dlc available somewhere else to add her back in.

I was thinking the same for her. With Rushia is the issue since she leaves in not good terms at all. Also the other was how much Kay Yu have to dig for get to work on Mano Aloe in case she is also added to.

[Raisen]

Originally posted by Cymelion:

I'm of the opinion that the easiest solution is that the former members could be unlocked with an unlock code (Think Konami code) that way they're still included and the Holomems that want to unlock them on stream can if they want to or leave it as is if they don't or find it too painful memory wise.

This avoids any fuss or discomfort without ignoring their legacies.

Honestly! that is a clever Idea. OR had to fullfil certain requirements for unlock them too while make them optional as well, like a code as you mentioned it. Something you had to write up and get them like: "GMMF" "boingboing" "happy" (Why "happy"? Because of "Happy Synthesizer", the last song she cover ), with a little confirmation the lower right corner, and you can choose them on the lowest section under a special separation "???" and you get each of the 3.

[Musou]

I don't think Rushia is a problem, from what I understand she is not forbidden to be talked about and Pekora and Noel still have her in some of their streaming backgrounds.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by Raisen:

With Rushia is the issue since she leaves in not good terms at all.

She didn't really leave on "bad terms" she just made some mistakes (minor breaches of NDA basically) and they were contractually forced to fire her once it became public (if you don't enforce the terms of a contract it basically becomes void). I don't think there were any hard feelings from other members or Cover, and she didn't do anything nefarious which is why she was quickly snatched up by another big agency.

Lets just say, if there weren't some poorly timed discord notifications, Rushia would still be in hololive and things would have been swept under the rug after some internal reprimands. So ya, I don't think Cover or other members would really have any problem seeing her in the game (any more so than Sana), especially since references already exist. Though making her a "secret character" might be an interesting way to go.

[K-Bone]

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