what's the deal with highlow?

[Sleeves]

i think that the highlow game in the casino is a bit lacking, especially compared to other games like blackjack, in this discussion i'll elaborate on why, and suggest ways that might make it more interesting

there's very little incentive to actually carry forward with the game and draw new cards, it feels best to just play 2 hands, back out, play 2 hands, back out, repeat, it's like a checkpoint system for your earnings

but i guess that's kind of the thing, do you keep buying in every 2 hands or just gun it forwards hoping to not pay for checkpoints, this method of risk implementation feels less like risk and more like just needing to do things slower instead of more cautiously

and the payout for going super risky still isnt even that great, it's 1:1 with the input bet each win, and there's only one mildly useful safety tool, the switch, so in 10 rounds max bet max risk you make 9000 profit

let's compare this to holocure blackjack, first thing first, the payout amounts and method, it's 1:2 (plus combo multiplier), and you cash out every hand, so discounting entry returns, that's still a 1:1 profit before any combo same as highlow, and to top this all off, the max bet is 10x higher too, adding to this, blackjack has a lot more safety than highlow, first off you're permitted to see the dealer's full hand at all times in this casino, so you know much more accurately when it's safe to stand and when you need to hit, even through all that, in the event you are very uncertain you can win, you can bribe the dealer to help you win, to a 50% chance of a guaranteed 21 and still breaking even at that rate, plus if you have enough combo, it's also profitable! although low yield

to compare 10 rounds of highlow to this i'll compare it to 3 rounds instead, because blackjack rounds do take longer than highlow rounds, again, max bet, risk on, max luck, that's 30300 profit from 3 rounds, even just one round of blackjack is more profitable, 10000 profit from one win

so that's what i think is wrong with it, it's not as interesting or profitable as the other games
now... what i'd do to improve it!

add a combo system into the highlow game too, this way the deeper into the run you get, the deeper you want to keep going, and if you want the bets low, keeping the bet limited to 1000 max will add further incentive to continue instead of backing out, because the only way to make actual large amounts of chips, will be to keep going, keep risking

or another more wacky thing you could do, is to actually add a simulated deck so players can use their judgement and memory to count the cards with the goal being to make it all the way through the deck and get a big bonus, similar to the ryona game kiwami highlow


i wonder if im the only one who thought the highlow game was underwhelming and weird feeling, feel free to tell me your fixes and your thoughts on my fixes

i love hololive

[Terratrox]

I could tell high/low wasn't simulating a deck when the dealer showed 2s 6 times and every time the hidden card was an ace. The chances of that pairing happening that many times is abysmal, and I started going low to predict it. Lo and behold, I could reliably win that hand because there's ALWAYS an ace hidden if 2 shows. At least in my experience.

High/Low needs a multiplier for consecutive wins. Ideally it's something like 2(n-1 + n-2 + n-3 + n-4...) where n is the total winnings for every hand. And then its pairs need to be based off of say... 3 decks of cards or something like that. That way you could keep track and make educated guesses that make sense instead of betting that there's an ace hidden with 2 showing for the 20th time.

[Toxi The Vagrant]

I feel like Hi Low is supposed to be low risk low reward, but that kinda falls apart in the face of Math Game level 3 being no Risk low Reward as long as you're willing to whip out a phone calculator.

[Sleeves]

Originally posted by Toxi The Vagrant:

I feel like Hi Low is supposed to be low risk low reward, but that kinda falls apart in the face of Math Game level 3 being no Risk low Reward as long as you're willing to whip out a phone calculator.

this too, math game is zero risk, since even without a calculator, there's still not specific time limit, and given there's an endless mode, i think even if you lose you still walk away with all the money you earned up to that point, so if you want safety, that's your game

[Blade]

I tried wasting my time going for 10 straight wins since the description of the game said I would get more rewards for winning and after winning the 10th round, I still got no bonus multiplier.. It's just basically a good way to lose chips after some very rigged cards.. I got scammed by a 2 then getting A, getting Q then getting K, and finally 2 and then of course I would then get a A.. Back to back to back.. Literally a scam and waste of my time.

So far I only really used it to get a quick 2-3k chips after buying 1k from Peko Mama. It's the fastest way to get 2-3k with zero investment and if you have lots of coins to spare. Then you grab those 2-3k chips and throw em all into blackjack or save up to 5k and then go do endless math for a safe way of getting thousands of chips. The only real advantage or unique about highlow is how fast the games are since blackjack can definitely take a while especially if you or the dealer has to draw 4-5 cards. But that's about it, it's fast and then if you really want to start amassing chips it's pretty useless. You either just go full gamble with 10k bets on blackjack or play the safe route and do math or do the races and pit fights but those require some investment before you can start getting decent chips. Roulette however could have been fun, I was able to place a 50k bet on it except it you literally have to put in 10 chips at a time and it damn took a while, roulette definitely needs a way to put large amount of bets a time.

[PewPew]

I mean if you want 0 risk just play slots, I used an auto clicker, went to eat dinner, came back and got 300000. It's all fun and games, no need to think seriously.

[Black Star]

Originally posted by PewPew:

I mean if you want 0 risk just play slots, I used an auto clicker, went to eat dinner, came back and got 300000. It's all fun and games, no need to think seriously.

What do you use I need something but am too stupid.

[JukePlz]

Originally posted by Black Star:

Originally posted by PewPew:

I mean if you want 0 risk just play slots, I used an auto clicker, went to eat dinner, came back and got 300000. It's all fun and games, no need to think seriously.

What do you use I need something but am too stupid.

Steam input has autofire, plug a controller and set autofire on a toggle, then just press the toggle button in your gamepad.

[Sleeves]

i would prefer we talk about highlow, instead of auto-clicking slots, discussion topic and all that