The Blackjack Dealers are dealing wrong

[Amaru Krosis]

The blackjack mini-game in this felt really unfair and it took me a moment to figure out why. It's because normally, blackjack dealers deal themselves one face-down and one face-up card, not both cards face-up.

The hidden card gives a lot of uncertainty that makes it a gamble and feel like a game of skill. With both cards face-up, the outcome is pretty much certain before you ever make your choice to hit or stay. Dealer has 20 and you have 18, you have to hit because stay is a loss. But hitting on 18 is also almost always a bust. It's lose-lose and you just have to sit through it. And that's what it feels like 90% of the time.

TL;DR: Blackjack dealers should only have one face-up card, not two.

[Shin-ou]

The entire meme of the casino is that every single game is a scam so I think it fits the theme

[Annie T. Mood]

I thought the whole casino was supposed to be like that.
You never lose in slots, but the money is slow.
High-low is a fast but small net-profit, but only after winning 2 or more times in a row, and you can switch out your card once per session.
Blackjack has the dealer show two cards face up, you get to bribe your bet up to a 75% chance of getting a winning card, and you get a multiplier that can get ridiculously high.
The roulette wheel is just the Rust wheel except you get to kick it (I don't know how that one works entirely).
And then there's math, which isn't even a gambling game. It's just there because it's funny watching Hololive struggle at math, but it's also good and safe chips for those who can handle it (like Ollie).

[JukePlz]

Originally posted by Shin-ou:

The entire meme of the casino is that every single game is a scam so I think it fits the theme

It's kinda of the opposite, really. Every game is weighted in favour of the player in some way so you can find a strategy to win more over time.

That's why you can bribe in blackjack, kick the roulette and slots, why the slots always make more money over time, etc. Real casinos are supposed to always make the house win, but the Usada casino in the game is basically fixed to benefit the player.

[76561199237019176]

Maybe it's for memes, but I think I also saw someone get 2 of the same card in their hand (2 ace of hearts or something) before.

[PewPew]

Ace doesn't even function like it would in a real blackjack game. Also no splits, no double down.

And you can bribe the dealer. IDK what more context clues you need to figure out it's not 100% like blackjack. The fact that you see the dealer's hands gives you a better chance of winning.

You also cannot surrender, so you can easily go past 20 if the dealer is showing 20 as well.

[Ashardalon]

does not knowing your doomed make you less doomed?
not joking, i dont know gambling and have never played blackjack or hookers
i just dont understand how not knowing makes winning more skill, and doesnt put more power in your hands

[Blade]

If you have the 20/18 situation, it might take too much brain power to realize you are screwed at this point until you realize it's not real blackjack nor is the Peko "casino" trying to emulate a real casino since the player is rigged to win most of the time unlike real casinos. So the "proper" thing to do is do bribe the dealer until 75% and take the 3:1 odds of getting 21 and not busting up the hand and thus maintaining the win streak and putting up another 10k chips (or whatever your bet is) and then recouping your "losses" that way until you have a more favourable position to gamble since win streaking is the way to go. If you lose the 75% bribe then nothing was lost anyways since winning the 20/18 situation was already stacked against you that you are already pretty much guaranteed to lose.. But if you win and maintain a win streak, then you might finally be learning how things work here.. I have had literally more than 100k chips profits by maintaining a 10 win streak using only 10k bets every time by using the 75% bribe feature. (Racing guarantees winnings no matter what if you cycle between two decent racers, you literally can almost never lose unless your racer was sub-optimal assuming you did the proper investments that is)

TLDR - Don't treat it like real blackjack or as a real casino. Treat it as the meme as the devs intended it to be as watching Fubuki cry her way out after losing all her chips (this literally happened to me on the first time I walked into the area and I found it hilarious) and also I guess have members do math on stream

[Starendi]

TBH ive just been farming the blackjack dealer, since wins increase the multiplier by 0.10x, I just bet 10 usachips until I reach a multiplier worth doing 10k usachips on, like 3.00x. After that, I stay only on 19-20, get the lucky 21. If neither of those 2 appear, I just bribe 3x cause keeping up the multiplier is the most important thing. The only way to lose in this strat is to somehow get the 25% that can't be bribed and going over, or the dealer getting a lucky 21.

[Crossil]

Originally posted by ChumZ:

Maybe it's for memes, but I think I also saw someone get 2 of the same card in their hand (2 ace of hearts or something) before.

Actually, there's only one version of ace and it's so for all the cards. It's the same ace, king, queen, jack and so on. There is only ace of hearts and no other aces.

Which is why I think there is no real deck in the background, but rather what card you get is whatever gets generated. Otherwise, counting would be possible.

[76561199237019176]

I checked, the dealer can get ace of diamond and spades, and I can get ace of diamond as well, so it's not just ace of hearts. I'm also able to get the same card as the dealer (7 of hearts), and have gotten a hand of two 3 of hearts, a 10 of hearts, and 10 of diamonds.

[Blazikenowen]

pekoras a scammer just not a good one of course she wouldn't know how blackjack really works (not a real scammer of course just a casino scammer just so nobody gets it twisted)

[Crossil]

Originally posted by ChumZ:

I checked, the dealer can get ace of diamond and spades, and I can get ace of diamond as well, so it's not just ace of hearts. I'm also able to get the same card as the dealer (7 of hearts), and have gotten a hand of two 3 of hearts, a 10 of hearts, and 10 of diamonds.

I will admit, I didn't pay much attention, but I had three of the same card on the board and I quickly assumed there is just set suite of individual cards.

Still, I feel like it just generates a random card without paying attention to what is already there.

[Crossil]

Originally posted by Amaru Krosis:

The blackjack mini-game in this felt really unfair and it took me a moment to figure out why. It's because normally, blackjack dealers deal themselves one face-down and one face-up card, not both cards face-up.

The hidden card gives a lot of uncertainty that makes it a gamble and feel like a game of skill. With both cards face-up, the outcome is pretty much certain before you ever make your choice to hit or stay. Dealer has 20 and you have 18, you have to hit because stay is a loss. But hitting on 18 is also almost always a bust. It's lose-lose and you just have to sit through it. And that's what it feels like 90% of the time.

TL;DR: Blackjack dealers should only have one face-up card, not two.

It's set up so as to benefit the player overall.

1. As you say we know what the dealer has, so if the dealer has 17 or more, then you have to chase the number as he doesn't take more cards from there.
2. Since you have such perfect info, you can decide on whether or not you need to hit in some cases. Like, if the dealer is at 14-16, then you can simply stand as he is forced to draw on unfavorable odds. Unless you have an ace while under 17 or have value 11 or less.
3. Due to the multiplier, your winnings become more significant the more you chain them. So a chain of losses loses you less value than a similar chain of wins earns you.
4. Bribe is a very useful tool for when you are chasing a dealer 20 value with an unfavorable value (you have a high value like 19) which turns a 2 in 13 chance of winning into a 50/50 chance, hopefully preserving a win combo in such situations.

That being said, I swear the RNG is somewhat rigged. Even with all the info, it feels like I'm losing more often than not and that I'm only kept afloat due to the multiplier.

Like, my last round, I got 3 natural 21s, while the dealer got 9, alongside one time where we both got 21s. That can't be pure RNG.

[Juno Brier]

I think topic creator is unfamiliar with the concept of "house rules".

[Radical Eddie]

I think it's mostly fine, because the casino is not here to be like a real casino, and shifting things in the player's favor is a good idea given how expensive the prizes are.

The one exception for me is, it really sucks when the dealer gets a natural 21 and you just lose without getting a chance to do anything.