Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag

Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag

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Needs a remaster/remake
This is one of the best games of all time
Of course I say this having played it many times through and knowing it's qwerks.
There are some terrible missions and old outdated AC type missions (like eaves dropping) that need to go.
But this game needs a rehaul and re-release on a modern engine.
I'm not even slightly, infinitesimally interested in Skull and Bones.
They need to convert that into a Black Flag remake. Full on. And They'll get that $100 from me.
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If it's a remaster then I'd only probably acquire it if it had all the exact same missions as it used to for the original. And if you can't deal with stealthy actions like eavesdropping then I'd even venture saying that it's a you problem that requires some further impriovement from your behalf and not the game being stripped of it by itself. :steamsalty:
And I cannot stress any further that I probably would acquire it only if the current PC that I'm playing on doesn't accept my file tweaking just to be able to play it upon more recent Windows OS as I had to do when replaying AC: REvelations upon this PC (even if I had brought those saves from my external HD and then started a fresh new game save).

And as I've always perceived it, that's mostly a sorry excuse gimmick for the gaming industry of late to simply get some cash poured back into their pockets with little to no effort at all trying to develop new interesting games from the get go (or allowing those old games to be ported into more recent OS without us having to tinker with the files).
Ultima modifica da Basan™; 15 mag 2023, ore 5:42
It doesn't need either
Messaggio originale di Basan™:
If it's a remaster then I'd only probably acquire it if it had all the exact same missions as it used to for the original. And if you can't deal with stealthy actions like eavesdropping then I'd even venture saying that it's a you problem that requires some further impriovement from your behalf and not the game being stripped of it by itself. :steamsalty:
And I cannot stress any further that I probably would acquire it only if the current PC that I'm playing on doesn't accept my file tweaking just to be able to play it upon more recent Windows OS as I had to do when replaying AC: REvelations upon this PC (even if I had brought those saves from my external HD and then started a fresh new game save).

And as I've always perceived it, that's mostly a sorry excuse gimmick for the gaming industry of late to simply get some cash poured back into their pockets with little to no effort at all trying to develop new interesting games from the get go (or allowing those old games to be ported into more recent OS without us having to tinker with the files).

That's a nice opinion. I have no "problem" with stealthy missioins like eavesdropping. They're just boring and tired and outdated.
I'm likely, genuinely, better at video games than you. Like, you'd get outplayed 10/10 times. :steamsalty:

The remaster/remake on modern game engine would be epic. You can keep your damn eavesdropping missions though. Or, at the very least, a remake should re-tool them to make them interesting.
Messaggio originale di Redrick:
It doesn't need either
Yes it does.
Nice opinion though.
Investment of resources and talent is much better spent innovating on new games and new IP. Franchises like this are already well past being stagnant with their copy/paste formula. The root causes of that are complex and multi layered, and while Ubisoft is one of the worst offenders its not limited to them. Remastering a game that doesn't need it is part of the overall problem. Instead of working on the 482nd Assassins Creed game they could be coming up with something truly great.
Messaggio originale di Redrick:
Investment of resources and talent is much better spent innovating on new games and new IP. Franchises like this are already well past being stagnant with their copy/paste formula. The root causes of that are complex and multi layered, and while Ubisoft is one of the worst offenders its not limited to them. Remastering a game that doesn't need it is part of the overall problem. Instead of working on the 482nd Assassins Creed game they could be coming up with something truly great.

They can't do that anymore. The industry and been hijacked by talentless diversity hires who wind up, undeserved, in gatekeeping positions and only hire other talentless people because they have quotas to fill instead of new exciting IP's to make.
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Messaggio originale di Basan™:
If it's a remaster then I'd only probably acquire it if it had all the exact same missions as it used to for the original. And if you can't deal with stealthy actions like eavesdropping then I'd even venture saying that it's a you problem that requires some further impriovement from your behalf and not the game being stripped of it by itself. :steamsalty:
And I cannot stress any further that I probably would acquire it only if the current PC that I'm playing on doesn't accept my file tweaking just to be able to play it upon more recent Windows OS as I had to do when replaying AC: REvelations upon this PC (even if I had brought those saves from my external HD and then started a fresh new game save).

And as I've always perceived it, that's mostly a sorry excuse gimmick for the gaming industry of late to simply get some cash poured back into their pockets with little to no effort at all trying to develop new interesting games from the get go (or allowing those old games to be ported into more recent OS without us having to tinker with the files).

That's a nice opinion. I have no "problem" with stealthy missioins like eavesdropping. They're just boring and tired and outdated.
I'm likely, genuinely, better at video games than you. Like, you'd get outplayed 10/10 times. :steamsalty:

The remaster/remake on modern game engine would be epic. You can keep your damn eavesdropping missions though. Or, at the very least, a remake should re-tool them to make them interesting.

If the eavesdropping missions to you are boring and outdated then why not simply go and try something else that suits more your playing style? Instead you come here and try to force everybody else to abbide by your own 'set of rules'. And right after this despotic display, pretty much you've just lost me provided that you can't debate things civicly. :baa:

And for that "likely, genuinely, better at video games than me", that's merely your opinion and a single shred of proof hasn't been produced nor presented. What an e-penis ego display if I ever saw one in the last few years. :steambored:
Ergo, if you can't deal with that sort of stealth approach then assuredly this, AC: Rogue and quite a few of the other Assassin's Creed titles (most likely the older than this ones) won't meet "your gaming standards", so... I still will have to point out that that is most likely a predicament of yours with that sort of missions remains a "it's a you issue" by trying to force yourself to play games that you don't enjoy / like (or even worse, which is trying to make others play stuff like you deem it to be fit).
Messaggio originale di Basan™:
Messaggio originale di Corso:

That's a nice opinion. I have no "problem" with stealthy missioins like eavesdropping. They're just boring and tired and outdated.
I'm likely, genuinely, better at video games than you. Like, you'd get outplayed 10/10 times. :steamsalty:

The remaster/remake on modern game engine would be epic. You can keep your damn eavesdropping missions though. Or, at the very least, a remake should re-tool them to make them interesting.

If the eavesdropping missions to you are boring and outdated then why not simply go and try something else that suits more your playing style? Instead you come here and try to force everybody else to abbide by your own 'set of rules'. And right after this despotic display, pretty much you've just lost me provided that you can't debate things civicly. :baa:

And for that "likely, genuinely, better at video games than me", that's merely your opinion and a single shred of proof hasn't been produced nor presented. What an e-penis ego display if I ever saw one in the last few years. :steambored:
Ergo, if you can't deal with that sort of stealth approach then assuredly this, AC: Rogue and quite a few of the other Assassin's Creed titles (most likely the older than this ones) won't meet "your gaming standards", so... I still will have to point out that that is most likely a predicament of yours with that sort of missions remains a "it's a you issue" by trying to force yourself to play games that you don't enjoy / like (or even worse, which is trying to make others play stuff like you deem it to be fit).

I'd like to watch you livestream the eavesdrop missions, beat them all in one go, while simultaneously telling me how great and amazing they are and that they are not outdated to the point of tedium. Modernising a game is not a sin. This includes re-tooling how some quests might work to make them MORE interesting and fun for the larger majority of players.
I played these games as they released throughout the years including the first ones. I have no issue with how they were back then because they certainly felt groundbreaking and challenging. But now, playing though this in 2023 it's easy to see that things have improved for the better over time.
Everything in this thread has been opinion including you. Mine is superior though. :steammocking:
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Messaggio originale di Redrick:
Investment of resources and talent is much better spent innovating on new games and new IP. Franchises like this are already well past being stagnant with their copy/paste formula. The root causes of that are complex and multi layered, and while Ubisoft is one of the worst offenders its not limited to them. Remastering a game that doesn't need it is part of the overall problem. Instead of working on the 482nd Assassins Creed game they could be coming up with something truly great.

They can't do that anymore. The industry and been hijacked by talentless diversity hires who wind up, undeserved, in gatekeeping positions and only hire other talentless people because they have quotas to fill instead of new exciting IP's to make.


It so has. Completely agree, and I hate the state of the industry. And at the same time I dont want to buy into it. As a gamer I'm not going to fall down the creatively bankrupt cliff with these companies by only buying the next copy/paste iteration of whatever franchise is hot (CoD, Far Cry, AC, FiFa, whatever) is; and that's to say nothing about the whole moneitization revolution that we are in the middle of, its both sad and sick.

Remember when a game was just a game, a piece of software that ran and you played it and then you were done with it. I'm so far behind on my gaming what I'm playing now is all 10+ years old and thankfully I'm still sort of having that experience, I'm having a blast. As in...actual fun, not 'manufactured' fun born out of a design to keep me playing (if that makes sense)


On the specific topic of remasters my philosophy is this:
Q: Why is <game> being considered for remaster ?
A: Because it was so good and popular back in the day.
Q: Okay, so if it was so good, then why does it need remastered?

Thats where opinions diverge. My line of thinking is, if you haven't played it yet, you owe it to yourself to experience it the same way the legions of OG fans did by playing the original, and having the *same experience* they did right down to the quirks of the game that a remake is likely to remove.

Remasters are indeed just money making scams because they want something safe and easy. Dont fall into that trap. Half the time they ruin remakes anyway by making unnecessary changes, (Dead Space).

If the OG game is too old or doesn't run on modern systems then that's different, Command & Conquer / Red Alert 1 are good examples of remasters that we needed. They even kept the OG graphics at the hit of a button for that nostalgia, so was worth it.

If you disagree with my philosophy thats completely okay, all I would say is do it on your own terms, not because you fell into the publishers hype that makes you go 'ooo shiny'.
Ultima modifica da Redrick; 22 mag 2023, ore 23:50
Messaggio originale di Redrick:
Investment of resources and talent is much better spent innovating on new games and new IP. Franchises like this are already well past being stagnant with their copy/paste formula. The root causes of that are complex and multi layered, and while Ubisoft is one of the worst offenders its not limited to them. Remastering a game that doesn't need it is part of the overall problem. Instead of working on the 482nd Assassins Creed game they could be coming up with something truly great.
And yet the only really good games this year were remakes of Dead Space and Resident Evil 4, Hogwarts came and go and no one really talks about it anymore and Jedi Survivor was on a verge of failure cause of the poor optimazation on launch,
Older games are honestly better than anything that comes out today, there was more love and passion poured into them, I would rather have remakes of old games than some new souless games like Redfall or Atomic Heart.
Messaggio originale di Redrick:
Messaggio originale di Corso:

They can't do that anymore. The industry and been hijacked by talentless diversity hires who wind up, undeserved, in gatekeeping positions and only hire other talentless people because they have quotas to fill instead of new exciting IP's to make.


It so has. Completely agree, and I hate the state of the industry. And at the same time I dont want to buy into it. As a gamer I'm not going to fall down the creatively bankrupt cliff with these companies by only buying the next copy/paste iteration of whatever franchise is hot (CoD, Far Cry, AC, FiFa, whatever) is; and that's to say nothing about the whole moneitization revolution that we are in the middle of, its both sad and sick.

Remember when a game was just a game, a piece of software that ran and you played it and then you were done with it. I'm so far behind on my gaming what I'm playing now is all 10+ years old and thankfully I'm still sort of having that experience, I'm having a blast. As in...actual fun, not 'manufactured' fun born out of a design to keep me playing (if that makes sense)


On the specific topic of remasters my philosophy is this:
Q: Why is <game> being considered for remaster ?
A: Because it was so good and popular back in the day.
Q: Okay, so if it was so good, then why does it need remastered?

Thats where opinions diverge. My line of thinking is, if you haven't played it yet, you owe it to yourself to experience it the same way the legions of OG fans did by playing the original, and having the *same experience* they did right down to the quirks of the game that a remake is likely to remove.

Remasters are indeed just money making scams because they want something safe and easy. Dont fall into that trap. Half the time they ruin remakes anyway by making unnecessary changes, (Dead Space).

If the OG game is too old or doesn't run on modern systems then that's different, Command & Conquer / Red Alert 1 are good examples of remasters that we needed. They even kept the OG graphics at the hit of a button for that nostalgia, so was worth it.

If you disagree with my philosophy thats completely okay, all I would say is do it on your own terms, not because you fell into the publishers hype that makes you go 'ooo shiny'.

Yes I grew up gaming on consoles from NES, SNES, N64, PS1, Ps3, ps4, xbox, xbox 360. After that era I switched to PC gaming because, well I was an adult and making money.

I do indeed remember when there was an old saying "it's gone gold". Which was to say the Dev's burned a gold-coloured master copy disc of their game that was the standard for mass-manufacture/copying.

It's no longer like that, not even on CONSOLE. Because consoles are no longer what they used to be, they're not just PC's with custom operating systems and the games can be updated.

Back in the days of N64, the games had to work on launch. And most of them did, perfectly. No chance to update them later unless you made a sequel.

The industry is dead. They found a way to make their fans and communities into beta testers for their unfinished products. Some companies ADMIT THIS, and kudos to them at least they admit it via Early Access, some companies go "hahah oops sorry about that we didn't know those game breaking bugs existed we'll fix them right away", and some companies GASLIGHT. "It's you. it's your hardware. it's your configuration. you're just lying. it runs great. the bugs are features. get good." etc. Which to me is a cardinal sin and should be punished with full cancelation and dissolving of said company.

Anyways we can ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan all day about it and change nothing, and reminisce about the good old days just to get called old geezers by Gen-Z'ers who were born into this madness and literally have no understanding what things used to be like back in the 90's and early 2000's.

As far as a remaster for this game goes, I'd buy it. Of course, if it was a broken piece of ♥♥♥♥ I'd refund it. Assassin's creed 3 remaster was great. Nothing wrong with it that I could find. I'm not asking for a lot. But this game was left with unfinished features like PhysX and things like that, which if a professional team came in and implemented would be rad. Maybe even switch over to newer tech and upscale the textures to make things shine with modern post FX and what not.

It would just be nice is all.
Yea I think that partly proves that a large % of gamers are not really into new games (they want to be, but where are the good ones), as soon as a remake of something great from the past rears its head we're all over it, what does that tell you ? I remember thinking the Callisto Protocol might be the next dead space, it even had the same guy working on it, but to say it fell flat would be an understatement. How are they getting it so wrong.. lol.

I'll stick with my late 1990s - 2010s games thanks. Its the Golden Age and noone will convince me otherwise. I'm happy staying in that era. There are plenty to choose from to keep me giong for years. I loved AC 4, best Assassins Creed experience out of the ones I've played. Happy to be going out with the franchise on a high.
Messaggio originale di Redrick:
Yea I think that partly proves that a large % of gamers are not really into new games (they want to be, but where are the good ones), as soon as a remake of something great from the past rears its head we're all over it, what does that tell you ? I remember thinking the Callisto Protocol might be the next dead space, it even had the same guy working on it, but to say it fell flat would be an understatement. How are they getting it so wrong.. lol.

I'll stick with my late 1990s - 2010s games thanks. Its the Golden Age and noone will convince me otherwise. I'm happy staying in that era. There are plenty to choose from to keep me giong for years. I loved AC 4, best Assassins Creed experience out of the ones I've played. Happy to be going out with the franchise on a high.

To add an opinion, I rather liked the newer assassins creeds as well. Once you get into the gameplay loop, you can look at them as almost a different franchise. The combat is nice and fluid. It just lacks the intrigue of the older ones. Because there is so much clothing/armour/weapons customizations that have nothing to do with the assassin's order, you never actually feel like an assassin.

I got through them forgetting I was playing an AC game and just enjoying the content for how it played.
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Messaggio originale di Redrick:


It so has. Completely agree, and I hate the state of the industry. And at the same time I dont want to buy into it. As a gamer I'm not going to fall down the creatively bankrupt cliff with these companies by only buying the next copy/paste iteration of whatever franchise is hot (CoD, Far Cry, AC, FiFa, whatever) is; and that's to say nothing about the whole moneitization revolution that we are in the middle of, its both sad and sick.

Remember when a game was just a game, a piece of software that ran and you played it and then you were done with it. I'm so far behind on my gaming what I'm playing now is all 10+ years old and thankfully I'm still sort of having that experience, I'm having a blast. As in...actual fun, not 'manufactured' fun born out of a design to keep me playing (if that makes sense)


On the specific topic of remasters my philosophy is this:
Q: Why is <game> being considered for remaster ?
A: Because it was so good and popular back in the day.
Q: Okay, so if it was so good, then why does it need remastered?

Thats where opinions diverge. My line of thinking is, if you haven't played it yet, you owe it to yourself to experience it the same way the legions of OG fans did by playing the original, and having the *same experience* they did right down to the quirks of the game that a remake is likely to remove.

Remasters are indeed just money making scams because they want something safe and easy. Dont fall into that trap. Half the time they ruin remakes anyway by making unnecessary changes, (Dead Space).

If the OG game is too old or doesn't run on modern systems then that's different, Command & Conquer / Red Alert 1 are good examples of remasters that we needed. They even kept the OG graphics at the hit of a button for that nostalgia, so was worth it.

If you disagree with my philosophy thats completely okay, all I would say is do it on your own terms, not because you fell into the publishers hype that makes you go 'ooo shiny'.

Yes I grew up gaming on consoles from NES, SNES, N64, PS1, Ps3, ps4, xbox, xbox 360. After that era I switched to PC gaming because, well I was an adult and making money.

I do indeed remember when there was an old saying "it's gone gold". Which was to say the Dev's burned a gold-coloured master copy disc of their game that was the standard for mass-manufacture/copying.

It's no longer like that, not even on CONSOLE. Because consoles are no longer what they used to be, they're not just PC's with custom operating systems and the games can be updated.

Back in the days of N64, the games had to work on launch. And most of them did, perfectly. No chance to update them later unless you made a sequel.

The industry is dead. They found a way to make their fans and communities into beta testers for their unfinished products. Some companies ADMIT THIS, and kudos to them at least they admit it via Early Access, some companies go "hahah oops sorry about that we didn't know those game breaking bugs existed we'll fix them right away", and some companies GASLIGHT. "It's you. it's your hardware. it's your configuration. you're just lying. it runs great. the bugs are features. get good." etc. Which to me is a cardinal sin and should be punished with full cancelation and dissolving of said company.

Anyways we can ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan all day about it and change nothing, and reminisce about the good old days just to get called old geezers by Gen-Z'ers who were born into this madness and literally have no understanding what things used to be like back in the 90's and early 2000's.

As far as a remaster for this game goes, I'd buy it. Of course, if it was a broken piece of ♥♥♥♥ I'd refund it. Assassin's creed 3 remaster was great. Nothing wrong with it that I could find. I'm not asking for a lot. But this game was left with unfinished features like PhysX and things like that, which if a professional team came in and implemented would be rad. Maybe even switch over to newer tech and upscale the textures to make things shine with modern post FX and what not.

It would just be nice is all.


I've reached the point that I'm okay to avoid the newer stuff and not care about it any more, and yea nothing to add other than to say the proof is in the output, Im having as much fun now as I always was.

Having grown up and seen the industry rise and fall is sad enough but whats even sadder is the newer generation who have grown up with the way things are now, and they don't know any better, that's the real tragedy. To help counter this I teach my son, for example, to play older games, to not judge a game based on its age or graphics etc.

But yea, no point banging on about it, it is what is. You either go with it or wait for a shift. I'm hopeful it'll happen.
Ultima modifica da Redrick; 23 mag 2023, ore 15:22
I might add, if a remaster of this was moddable, and the modding community created one of those insanely immersive hardcore mods (think Ziggys mod for Far Cry 3) where all the crap is removed from the HUD, no minimap, etc and you have to figure things by looking with your own eyes.. I'd buy into that
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