Rogue Legacy

Rogue Legacy

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Sweetz 2013 年 9 月 16 日 下午 8:03
Can't progress, I need(ed) an easy mode :(
I really wanted to like Rogue Legacy, but it's too damn hard for me and I'm getting bored of seeing the same areas over and over. After 4 hours I haven't even gotten out of the first area (without immediately dying) or beat the first boss.

I'm ok at platformers I think, I mean I completed all of Rayman Origins withouth too much trouble, except the insane secret level, and that has it's tricky parts. I watched some quick looks of Rogue Legacy and it didn't seem too bad, but I failed to realize from videos just how quickly the cost ramps up on the upgrades. I can get an average of 400-500 gold on a run and that's about it and I've reached the point where all the upgrades cost more than that.

So now I'm just wasting lives with absolutely no reward on the time spent playing the game - which is horrible. If I could carry over money between lives or if the price progression on the upgrades wasn't so extreme I think the game would be more managable for me. As is, I've hit a brick wall where it's impossible to progress and I'm getting tired of the same music, the same enemies, and same tileset.

I guess for the $9 I spent I got a few hours of entertainment out of the game, it just bugs me that I'm never going to see more than 25% of the game because the developers didn't seem to care about making it accessible to people that don't have razer sharp reaction times.

---Update---

For those who don't read through the whole thread, I got over that initial difficulty hump and am now progressing steadily through the game (in fact, I've unlocked the final boss, but currently having a real hard time beating him). I still think the game could benefit from difficulty options, but thank you to all of those who offered advice and didn't just say "you suck, get better, or eff off dirty casual".

---Update 2---

Beat it! So yeah once you get over that initial hump it's matter of time and grinding as necessary to make up for lack of reflexes; but I still think difficulty options wouldn't harm the game and would make it enjoyable to more people without affecting those who like the current level of challenge :D:
最后由 Sweetz 编辑于; 2013 年 10 月 19 日 下午 11:58
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GuruVirus 2013 年 9 月 17 日 下午 8:30 
Also, please be aware that this is primarily a pseudo rogue-like, in the form of a 2D platformer, the type of game who's difficulty is supposed to be impossibly difficult. These games are meant to be played as hero-simulators. Each one, a desparate attempt at glory in a simulator where only death is expected. I would also take a crack at Goblin Hack, to get a more traditional form under your finger tips, which is free from Source Forge. If you have an Xbox 360 you can play Fatal Labarynth on the Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection.

Rogue Legacy IS easy mode, since you are constantly "New Game +"ing.

P.S. I am level 462 or something absurd now.
最后由 GuruVirus 编辑于; 2013 年 9 月 17 日 下午 8:31
Sweetz 2013 年 9 月 17 日 下午 9:37 
Well I beat the first boss, so I'm progressing I guess, but I still wish the game was easier.

One thing I don't understand - I was watching a video of a guy playing and he had like 500+ health, but only 16 points into the health powerup. That math doesn't add up. I got +5 HP for beating the first boss, but are there other ways to raise your stats outside of buying upgrades?
Emprah 2013 年 9 月 17 日 下午 9:42 
Blueprints for armor and new swords also lead to increased stats.
MD 2013 年 9 月 17 日 下午 9:44 
引用自 Sweetz
Well I beat the first boss, so I'm progressing I guess, but I still wish the game was easier.

One thing I don't understand - I was watching a video of a guy playing and he had like 500+ health, but only 16 points into the health powerup. That math doesn't add up. I got +5 HP for beating the first boss, but are there other ways to raise your stats outside of buying upgrades?

He was probably a barbarian or whatever class gets a load of bonus HP. The 3rd boss you fight is probably the hardest so don't get discouraged if you lose to him a few times.

I just finished NG+ in like 1/8th the time it took me to initially complete the game.
最后由 MD 编辑于; 2013 年 9 月 19 日 下午 9:30
Juken 2013 年 9 月 17 日 下午 10:20 
It's hard at the start, but you just need to learn how the enemies and how to dodge their projectiles and how to survive and take advantage of your skills and change your playstyles accordingly. It's hard because it doesn't really walk you through everything, but that's cool because it brings you back to the old arcade games where they didn't tell you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Just get a few vampire items and upgrade your things like health and attack damage. It's a lot easier once you progress because you'll be more tanky and getting vampire items will allow you to stay alive for much longer if you avoid damage.

There are also grace runes to make the game easier for you, but if you can't progress, I guess it's probably safe to assume you don't have those.
最后由 Juken 编辑于; 2013 年 9 月 17 日 下午 10:20
Emprah 2013 年 9 月 17 日 下午 10:58 
Another key strategy, is using miners (when you can choose them) to farm the first area early on. I tend to make a push towards the forest first. Then, if things get rough, use a teleporter to head back to the starting area, and then clear a few rooms to regen health with vampire.

Also, on the left side of your castle upgrades, there is an upgrade that allows you to retain a percentage of your gold while paying Cheron's toll. This can help stack a little gold on top of your next run. It's not much, but it all adds up.
Syntax Error 2013 年 9 月 18 日 上午 12:40 
Vampire runes are definitely helpful. Even vampire gear is not bad, other than it usually drops your max health (ouch). Barbarians are less affected by this. Getting up to +8 HP (or more) per kill is significant. Also, getting the better armor (with higher Armor score) is very nice. Where you might be taking loads of damage and dying in 3 hits at first, the good armor keeps it reasonable. You put those 2 things together, you have a fighting chance.
The other thing I would mention is class. I can breeze through a castle with a spellsword or a dragon. 10k gold is kind of a normal run with one of those, now. They are beyond powerful. If you haven't unlocked those, they are worth their weight in gold. Making only 400-500 now could take awhile to get them, but maybe you'll start having better luck. Having a good spell for the spellsword is important, too. I personally find the axe the least useful spell with them. The spinning disc or fire shield are fantastic. (BTW, the unlock for the dragon class is a screen up from all the castle upgrades... almost hidden, really).
Pixel Peeper 2013 年 9 月 18 日 上午 2:23 
引用自 Syntax Error
Even vampire gear is not bad, other than it usually drops your max health (ouch). Barbarians are less affected by this.

I gotta admit I never used Blood gear on a Barbarian King, but as stats from gear do scale along wtih the class' modifiers, I'd expect they'd actually be *more* affected by the HP reduction. If stat penalties work the same way as bonuses, then the Barbarian King would lose 45 HP per piece of Blood Gear instead of 30 for a Paladin (or less for low-HP classes).

Percentage-wise it's all the same, of course, but regeneration from food would be negatively impacted too.
Jdtm 2013 年 9 月 18 日 上午 2:54 
grace runes, they're there for a reason.
IntentlyBored 2013 年 9 月 18 日 下午 12:03 
Do you seriously not understand the concept of a roguelike? You die, you keep dying until you get good. You don't whine, because whining is wasting time you could be using to get good. Try getting good. This isn't even a hard roguelike from what I can tell, it's actually very easy for the genre, hence the developers dubbing it rogue-lite. Quit whining, keep practicing, if you can't do that then don't even try, this game is more than easy enough for a roguelike.
Stagnetti 2013 年 9 月 18 日 下午 12:04 
引用自 Jdtm
grace runes, they're there for a reason.

Something useful in a thread full of neckbeards and aspies.
MD 2013 年 9 月 18 日 下午 12:09 
引用自 Jdtm
grace runes, they're there for a reason.

Something useful in a thread full of neckbeards and aspies.

People suggested runes long before that poster did. In fact, a lot of posters in here are offering good advice to the OP.
最后由 MD 编辑于; 2013 年 9 月 18 日 下午 12:10
Jigen Daisuke 2013 年 9 月 18 日 下午 12:12 
引用自 Jdtm
grace runes, they're there for a reason.

Something useful in a thread full of neckbeards and aspies.
gab dat to me mug m8 :rufusjoking:
🜃Retro🜁 2013 年 9 月 18 日 下午 4:53 
引用自 Ultimacy
Something useful in a thread full of neckbeards and aspies.
You gave up the right to call people that when you logged over 700 hours in Star Trek online and over a hundred in Terraria :)
Top lel
DestructionAdv 2013 年 9 月 18 日 下午 5:17 
引用自 Ultimacy
Something useful in a thread full of neckbeards and aspies.
You gave up the right to call people that when you logged over 700 hours in Star Trek online and over a hundred in Terraria :)

DAYUM!!
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