What is a good money grinding strategy?

[Mr.YungLava]

I die alot so I need to buy gear, any tips for earning cash?

[ShinkuTear]

Basically: Die Less, Kill More.

Either take your strongest sword or Blood Sword, set your other gear for HP and Armor if possible, set Runes for gaining money or as Vampirism/Balance, and if you can, avoid breaking stuff in Castle, and any other areas you can handle.

Clear rooms as best you can, going off your own capability, you know what you can handle better then I would, but I'd suggest avoiding Bosses, Mini Bosses, and dangerous Fairy Chests.

When HP starts to drop low despite the Vampirism healing you when you kill stuff, head back to rooms you cleared the enemies out of. The objects you didn't break can sometimes drop Chicken, giving you some HP back, and maybe some gold in the process.

Estimate the cost of upgrades, and try to gain enough for at least 1 equip purchase(if you have any to buy) and/or 3 Manor upgrades. Once you have that much, feel free to be a bit more bold and take risks: Mini Bosses, risky Fairy Chests, even a Boss or two if you feel up to it! Always try to aim for profit, but killing a Mini Boss can net you a lot of money, and Bosses offer tons of money *and* some stat upgrades.

tl;dr: Die Less, Kill More.

[Swordsmage]

If you aren't good at the Metroidvania fighting, look up how to unlock the miner if you haven't unlocked it yet. This class collects 30% more money than any other. When you upgrade it, it will have the ability to see every chest and bonus room on the map. Do your best to avoid enemies, or try to kill them, and head right to the nearest chest. Look for chests that are right next to each other, these are usually the boss rooms, and have two free chests, as well as a free health and MP item.

[futureXskeleton]

@ShinkuTear, that idea of not breaking stuff until you need it is huge. Thank you!

[Dthcactuar]

If you're feeling a bit daring you could put on some curse runes and go through the easier parts of the castle. That should get you some extra coin.

[Ender]

for "grinding" I disagree about saving easy rooms. As long as you are makig enough money for at least one upgrade on a run just play through, and when you get to a zone you don't have on farm (i.e. the one you usually die on ) just avoid fights and hunt for chests/special rooms. You'll get less gold per run, but not going back and forth will increase the gold per time frame.

[ShinkuTear]

Originally posted by Ender:

You'll get less gold per run, but not going back and forth will increase the gold per time frame.

Not really. That strategy is more risky, will have more deaths, will lose more Gold to Charon and his toll, will have less to be spent on the manor, all because you are going right to the dangerous areas where enemies can ruin you, in the hope of a chest or 3 tossing out a lot of Gold.

Sheer gold gained per Hour or whatever might be larger, but you have far less to actually spend.

If you at least leave *some* breakables in safe areas to try and get some Chicken, and can actually cut a path through the enemies, sure, but if you want some real profit, you need to take things slower and safer.

[99xPotions]

Here is what I recommend:

Exploration:

After entering a room, check to see if it is a dead-end, open the map if you have to.
If yes, it is a dead-end, avoid it, just turn back and find another room to explore.
Avoid meaningless fights and you'll have more chances to succed.
The ONLY reason to stay on said room is if there is a chest on it.

When reaching a room with branching paths, check every path before picking one.
Pick the easiest one and move on.
If you see a chest on any room, you'll pick that room, even if it isn't the easiest one.

Clear EVERY room of the area you're on after moving to another one.
Even after you've killed the boss of that area, you should grab as much gold as possible before leaving.
This way you'll maximize gold gain, even if it consumes more time.

Equipment:

Vampirism is a VERY important stat, so equip as many Vampirism runes you can.
Do NOT equip more than one Vampirism piece of equipment at the same time (excluding the Dark Set).
The best way to go is to equip only the Blood Cape.
You'll replace it as soon as you get better equipment via NG+

Remember: You have to stay ALIVE in order to get gold, that is why you should prioritize Vampirism over Gold gain.

Upgrades:

Health is INDEED a very important stat to raise, and cheap too.
I recommend upgrading Crit, Crit Damage, Armor only AFTER you've reached NG+
HP and mana are more important than Physical and Spell Damage.
Try upgrading 1 Level on an offensive stat every 2 Levels on a defensive stat.
Upgrade your gold gain ASAP.

Notes:

Don't lock the castle, ever. (If you want gold)
Don't use the Spelunker, ever. (He dies so fast...)

[bnakao]

Is it a good idea to not upgrade things if you can only upgrade one, at the start? Like, if you only get 100 coins and uses it to upgrade 1 room in hte manor.

I feel that after a few upgrades and getting lvl 12, the dungeon got more difficult. More than what I got at playing the game. So is not upgrading sometimes a valid strategy?

[99xPotions]

Originally posted by bnakao:

Is it a good idea to not upgrade things if you can only upgrade one, at the start? Like, if you only get 100 coins and uses it to upgrade 1 room in hte manor.

I feel that after a few upgrades and getting lvl 12, the dungeon got more difficult. More than what I got at playing the game. So is not upgrading sometimes a valid strategy?

Fazer upgrades no personagem não altera o nível de dificuldade do jogo.
As únicas formas de aumentar a dificuldade são: Terminar o jogo, fazendo NG+ e usando Curse Runes, que aumentam o nível dos inimigos, o que te dá uma recompensa maior.

Então o certo seria o jogo ficar mais fácil de acordo com seus upgrades.

[Sqeaver]

Originally posted by bnakao:

Is it a good idea to not upgrade things if you can only upgrade one, at the start? Like, if you only get 100 coins and uses it to upgrade 1 room in hte manor.

I feel that after a few upgrades and getting lvl 12, the dungeon got more difficult. More than what I got at playing the game. So is not upgrading sometimes a valid strategy?

So far, I've upgraded just about everything (1-2 upgrades per run) and for me it has only gotten easier. When upgrading every turn, it's more bang for your buck since Charon's price for entering the castle is 100% at first. Upgrading the left side of your manor, you can get the unlock to pay Charon less (10% each upgrade) and that helps slightly. Once your manor is nearly fully unlocked, you will notice a break in difficulty (especially after beating Khidir).
Also, for the first 30 levels or so, I have stuck with playing Barbarian as many times as possible. The upgrade in health is much more rewarding if you aren't so good as dodging enemies. If you are good at dodging, Miner does offer the gold bonus, but I prefer clearing rooms while defeating enemies (so as to incease gold/time ratio).
TL/DR: Tank while clearing rooms > Miner (if bad at speed and dodging)

[Longshot]

If you can manage to get the equipment for 8-10 life per kill, put the rest of your enchantments on bounty and go to town with a spelunker. This is in the regular game of course.

[ShinkuTear]

Originally posted by Longshot:

If you can manage to get the equipment for 8-10 life per kill, put the rest of your enchantments on bounty and go to town with a spelunker. This is in the regular game of course.

Too much HP lost if you use full Blood set, the Sword is enough, if you need extra Vampirism, set some runes to it >.>

[Les White]

Originally posted by ShinkuTear:

Originally posted by Longshot:

If you can manage to get the equipment for 8-10 life per kill, put the rest of your enchantments on bounty and go to town with a spelunker. This is in the regular game of course.

Too much HP lost if you use full Blood set, the Sword is enough, if you need extra Vampirism, set some runes to it >.>

Max HP isn't as important as being able to regen it.

If you can take a hit, and kill a monster and regen all your HP, it makes no difference what your HP number is at. You are far better off with more regeneration and armor than more HP.

[of Anwyl]

full sage armour, full bounty runes, and ng++, just try and run to the boss room chests and you should earn thousands.

[99xPotions]

Originally posted by Foghorn Dickhorn:

Max HP isn't as important as being able to regen it.

If you can take a hit, and kill a monster and regen all your HP, it makes no difference what your HP number is at. You are far better off with more regeneration and armor than more HP.

You can also restore HP from chickens, and they're based on your Max HP.
It is more viable to equip Vampirism runes and gear that increases your survivability that doesn't involve reducing your Max Health.