The Crew
Tex-Rec 2016 年 4 月 4 日 上午 9:37
Micro Stutter even 60 FPS
Does anyone have a fix or a solution to that trouble ? Im getting really ugly micro stutter even 60 FPS , no metter do i seet the game on apsolutelly everything low or ultra , i have a stable FPS but those micro stutters just wont go away and they are there same way on low settings like on ultra ( maxed out game settings )

So far i known and noticed my rig should be available to handle the game smoth , but something is wrong.

Rig:

OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Processor: AMD 8350 4.2 GHz
Graphics: EVGA GTX970 FTW+ 4GB
Memory: 16 GB
Running on a 16:10 monitor at 1680x1050 Resolution

I have tryed to track the FPS with different apps , because i thought maybe the GeExperience is lying the FPS , but like every other app Precision X , MSI Afterburner , fraps , the FPS is 60 and sometimes lower a to 59.

I really like the game , but this micro stutter makes it ugly and not playable for me , yes not even on Low Settigns with Windowed Mod at 1024x720 Resolution , the micro stutter is still there..

What's causing this ? Solution ? Recommended stuff i can do ?

PS: I own the Uplay Version of the game.

I hope you can notice it here

https://youtu.be/Wzh3ET1kmeE
最后由 Tex-Rec 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 4 日 上午 10:08
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Adelin 2016 年 4 月 6 日 上午 12:34 
I had before an old diamondtron overclocked factory by Iiyamah ;)
I couldn't even run it at maxed normal refresh rate, so i think it was something like 120hz i used at the time. instead of higher hz.

Graphic card was not always powerfull enough to deliver in most games enough fps.
At the time i was playing MOHAA (medal of honor allied assault)

A ge force 4 ti 4600 was very nice in old games with fps over 200 lol, i had to turn vsync to not have tearing at 120hz or more :p so locking with vsync fps at 120 was required.

About frame limiter, i always use it with crimson amd drivers.
I save graphic power this way, and fan is running slower.

Having it in game, and not been able to disable it, it's a bit bothering especially in this case:

In fewyears maybe, we will get new computers capable of displaying more than 500 fps,
For games not on the market yet.

We would want graphic cards to match displays, with off course v sync enabled, and maybe a Frame limiter.

Imagine games with fps up to 10000 lol waste of power.
But it's a waste of power potential to limit everything at 30 or 60FPS in future.

So 60 hz or 30hz for pc, is completely blocking every future possibility.
Same for consoles, we dunno if one day we will not get retro compatible consoles, capable of displaying a lot of fps, with tvs displays capable of 200hz everywhere.

Ok my message is maybe confusing, anyway i think i catched it ?
最后由 Adelin 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 6 日 上午 12:37
Tex-Rec 2016 年 4 月 6 日 上午 6:10 
You got no idea how i tired of this ♥♥♥♥. I think the problem is that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 60 fps lock. This is the worst thing you can do with a racing game. Do you own 120/144hz monitor?
And please tell us if you get any answer from ubisoft.

It's hard to Imagine , but there are still more gamer's nowdays with an 60hz monitor like me instead of 120 > 144hz , i am using a 60 hz monitor. Ubisoft didnt ansverd anything so far.
robertedell 2016 年 4 月 6 日 上午 9:57 
You got no idea how i tired of this ♥♥♥♥. I think the problem is that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 60 fps lock. This is the worst thing you can do with a racing game. Do you own 120/144hz monitor?
And please tell us if you get any answer from ubisoft.

It was originally designed for 30FPS, they latter added 60FPS but it is not well implemented only 30 works smoothly. However it really is not a racing game it is arcade. I play it at 30 that is what it is.
最后由 robertedell 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 6 日 下午 5:26
Adelin 2016 年 4 月 6 日 上午 10:21 
I tryed the 30 fps limiter, and i can't stand it.
There are more spikes.
Sometime frames fail to keep the same speed or something making the "movie feeling" wrong.
Like if the cameraman was using a crank handle.
60 fps especially at high speed is more fluid off course.


Tryed playing by raining days, by night,...
Restarting the game, i always have a different game experience about spikes that make the game a bit jerky.
Or none at all.

I got two specs kit from driving the challenge speed from April summit qualifier.
Each time i relaunch my comp try again this race, there is always a difference about spikes of frame slowing down.

I think i played it around 300 time or more.

Edit restarted the game again, disabled ambient occlusion.
Disabled V sync for 30 fps,

This time It's the 30 fps limiter that is more fluid than the 60 fps one.
I had a problem with vsync, even if i get more than 40 min fps in towns

2nd edit:

30 fps frame limiter, frames are freezing time to time even more than 60 fps.

Tryed the game at lowest setting, and rebooted the game, didn't help.
I will keep 60 fps, i surely have a driver bug or my 7870 is dead.
最后由 Adelin 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 6 日 上午 10:43
Tex-Rec 2016 年 4 月 6 日 上午 10:41 
引用自 Adelin
I tryed the 30 fps limiter, and i can't stand it.
There are more spikes.
Sometime frames fail to keep the same speed or something making the "movie feeling" wrong.
Like if the cameraman was using a crank handle.
60 fps especially at high speed is more fluid off course.


Tryed playing by raining days, by night,...
Restarting the game, i always have a different game experience about spikes that make the game a bit jerky.
Or none at all.

I got two specs kit from driving the challenge speed from April summit qualifier.
Each time i relaunch my comp try again this race, there is always a difference about spikes of frame slowing down.

I think i played it around 300 time or more.

Edit restarted the game again, disabled ambient occlusion.
Disabled V sync for 30 fps,

This time It's the 30 fps limiter that is more fluid than the 60 fps one.
I had a problem with vsync, even if i get more than 40 min fps in towns

Did i got you right now , when you disable ambient occlusion , limit the game to 30 FPS and turning off the vsync , the game works better for you ?
Adelin 2016 年 4 月 6 日 上午 10:43 
Tex-Rec,

Yes it worked better in Los Angeles, but now it's country side that is not working as attended.
I mean doing the same event speed 108.
Then i went to different country spot, and it was a noightmare.
I'm sure it's some sort of Amd driver bug somewhere.

Edit:

I think it's resolved with hotfix from april 4 16.4.1 hotfix drivers.
But it can be also use of display driver uninstaller, and reset of graphic settings within crimson pannel.

Off course i don't use raptor.
Not easy to pin point things lol
最后由 Adelin 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 6 日 下午 12:09
Adelin 2016 年 4 月 9 日 上午 8:13 
Hello,

I'm terribly angry, i tryed as a challenge to not use Nitro boost for the entire Race in hardcore:
Key West 2h30 Race Dirt spec.
That end In Los Angeles.

With a Nissan Fairlady level 768.

I was always First after the first 20 minutes i Played it.
I did few Errors, but i always stayed on thr road, and avoid to corner outside the road.

I had lot of fun doing it, and something ruined it at the last second, 100 meters before end of the line.

I entered Los Angeles, i was on Medium settings no AA no blur...
And it was a nightmare. I could handle the car, but stutter was that strong :(

I had a pretty good experience for more than 2H hours, didn't understand what happend.

To come back to the end of the race, i was still first followed by a mini.
I was in straight line, not using boost, and suddntly my car turned by itself.

There was no bump, and it was maybe at 30 meters of finnish line, and the mini was not on my trail.

I finnished second because of that.

I'm terribly angry.

But i discovered the AI is more cool with you, if you stop using nitro.
They won't use magic catchup skill to try to come back.

They still use nitro, but it's easy to distance them, even not using it yourself.

So it's a mixed experience, just stutter in a racing game, is totally unfair for who ever is racing been it against ai or other players.

And always about AI,
WHen it's raining, they will try to do everything to catch you, but this time i think they are more prone to bump you.

By night it's ok.
Snow too.

This game for both solo mode and maybe pvp, should have an option to disable Nitro.
I was doing lots of driving errors, and learning the vehicule mass transfer, is not easy when you switch car often, and with nitro, it"s impossible.

I think it's why some people say there are noob everywhere.
I have no good driving skills, but this last 2h30 or more race,

Trying to not crash my car, and not focus on the ai car been first sometime, helped more, than stupid boost speed nitro :)

April 10 edit:

Contrary to what i thought first, even Raining, and hardcore mode, is not enough to have driving sensation like in gtr.

Second, i thought Agera R was a hardcore car to drive but it's not same for nissan fairlady.

There is something strange about road gripping even when there is rain on roads,
For me everydays i'm driving, even if i choose the same car, i think driving difficulty vary a lot, like if one day there was more grip even when i keep stock cars, and the other day it as impossible to drive.

Next, contrary to the day i used the fairlady and was second withut nitro and hardcore.
I did the same with Agera R, and the First car is 5km 5 in front of me, fourth car,
3km.

I currently should play pvp races, to win money, but i am making people freeze, they always have to wait i recover my connection when i play.

So i give up for pvp.

To come back to stutter, no matter what setting i apply it's completely random.

I tryed the fix: 30 fps in radeon setting drivers, and 60 in game, not helping.
Reverted to three different crimson version after each tie unnstall and hel of a driver uninstaller found on guru 3D in safe boot.

I think my 7870 is not powerfull enough, i iwll wait for june 2016, about amd cards, or later for new Nvidia cards that will beat almost everything done lately about gpu.

Max payne 3 maxed out with msaa, no stutter, same for gta 4, Mafia serie, L.A noire and more games.

A new card will help me to play creed liberty, it does feel well as it is, but new gen games require a lot of horse power .
最后由 Adelin 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 10 日 上午 5:40
Suck Ya Madda 2016 年 4 月 11 日 下午 4:45 
Exact same card as u bro evga gtx970 8gb of ram i5 4460 cpu and i use xbox controller and i get those micro stutters especially when going round corners no matter what settings i use from low to high setting thr stuttrring is still there and because of this i dont play the game anymore i play need 4 speed 2015 instead and that game runs flawlessly on maxex settings
Adelin 2016 年 4 月 12 日 下午 12:22 
I didn't touched anything, but since yesterday, i have 0 stutter, just a bit in Los Angeles, but even now i can drive there without having wheel input lagg or something making steering chaotic.

I rebooted the comp few time, game client restarted few time, i think i'm lucky actually.
I dunno what happend the first days i played this game, but it's resolved from now, but not in LA, Las Vegas is ok now, just loosing a bit of fps., not that much.
最后由 Adelin 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 12 日 下午 12:22
Tex-Rec 2016 年 4 月 12 日 下午 12:24 
引用自 Adelin
I didn't touched anything, but since yesterday, i have 0 stutter, just a bit in Los Angeles, but even now i can drive there without having wheel input lagg or something making steering chaotic.

I rebooted the comp few time, game client restarted few time, i think i'm lucky actually.
I dunno what happend the first days i played this game, but it's resolved from now, but not in LA, Las Vegas is ok now, just loosing a bit of fps, but it"s not like it was before.

What's your specs ?

OS:
Processor:
Graphics:
Memory:
Resolution you running the game

Whats the graphic settings you use in game ?
最后由 Tex-Rec 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 12 日 下午 12:24
Adelin 2016 年 4 月 12 日 下午 12:47 
OS: Windows 10 64bits from a full format +installation, with only steam and few games running,
I use Kubuntu for web browsing with firefox on a laptop.

Processor: I5 4670k at stock
Graphics: HD 7870 sapphire dualx oc (1050mhz core base oc'd by Sapphire, worked at 1125mhz core +25% powerboost, but i run it at stock now 66°C temp in The crew. 20° C home)

Memory: 2x8gb kit Gskill , Ripjaw cas 11 @2400mhz (in bios i set them @ 2400 with right cas 11 latency+ voltage at 1.65v

1920x1080 resolution, No AA , geometrie and mapping on high, everything else on medium,

No blur, or speed blur, 60 FPS in game limiter, 30 FPS , is still micro stuttering but 60 not anymore.

In radeon setting, i disabled the frame limiter just for the crew, in case it's double use.

Hard drive is a SSHD 2TB
Power suply G2 850W gold from EVGA.


I think the thing is i just need few more percent graphic power, GPU Use actually is 94% max, and 97 to 99 % set on ultra without aa and blur.

Maybe it does explain stuttering that happend before.

Now i can play in 3rd view, it is a bit less smooth, and First person camera is smooth.
最后由 Adelin 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 12 日 下午 12:51
Hero 2016 年 4 月 13 日 上午 4:56 
Kał
Andre.Hawck 2016 年 4 月 13 日 上午 8:14 
You tried to disable Vsync? Currently this option has become a major villain causing stuttering, input lag, frame drop and in some cases does not remove the tearing completely.
Including being created alternatives to limit the FPS to correct these problems as FreeSync, GSync, Adaptive Vsync and more modern games "FPS limiter".
Whenever you can avoid using Vsync because currently it hinders more than helps.
Adelin 2016 年 4 月 13 日 上午 8:28 
@ Andre.Hawck

Yes tryed without it, and it did help.
By the way micro stuttering is not visible to my eyes anymore, i think it does still exist, but it's ok as it.

Just to say, one week ago, i was in first person inside car view, i was pressing keyboard or turning wheel, there was a very high delay till the wheel inside the car turn.

Now there is a very small delay, and input lagg disapeared a lot, and it did help with input control.

I have pciex 3.0 at 16X link, and contrary to my laptop gtx 850M that has a 33mhz core bug time to time, the 7870 is fine, and change core, + memory, without lockup.

Frame limiter is not the same as V sync, but because a 7870, is not top of the top in few gmes, V sync i set it off, and frame limiter on, not it will help with tearing, but reduce heat, and fan speed is less fast so , less noise.

To come back to the game, maybe there was a driver or something that was doing latency spike,
I don't think about a virus, I use only steam, and U play.

And every web browsing is on my linux-gnu laptops.

I prefer tou check well known programs, i can get at sourceforge, and avoid most download sites., I prefer programs without toolbars, open candy ...
最后由 Adelin 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 13 日 上午 8:30
Andre.Hawck 2016 年 4 月 13 日 上午 9:22 
@Adelin
The main objective of "limiting the FPS" is solely remove screen tearing do not know where you saw that limit FPS serves to reduce the heat of the machine because this information is fully wrong. It generated less heat because the hardware is limited to working only needed soon it consumes less power and is thus generated less heat.
I gave the tip to disable Vsync because the author has posted a video and in it I saw the active option and Vsync brings problems rather see in a proper video like this stuttering occurs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_uhrLySk64
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