THIS is my reward for reaching level 50?

[Rewdalf]

I see.
The perfect middle finger compliment to reaching max level.
The ability to lose race against god-tier rubberband AI.

Beautiful.

No more enjoying faction races, taking in the scenery while on your hour long chore conquest for rep points.

Why?
Why even consider featuring a mechanic that helped kill EA's Need for Speed franchise?

And that piece of ♥♥♥♥ Aaron in his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Alfa Romeo, speeding past as if you're standing still, only to slow back down to a crawl until you've raced right past for the twelfth time...

It isn't even the rubber banding that's an issue.
The AI don't suffer from slowdown when hitting objects.
This cocky bastard will actually drive through the highway light posts on purpose, just for fun!
And forget objects, these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ will do an excess of 220+ through dirt.

I followed this bastard's tire trails for awhile to see if I could catch his flawless racing line, and my performance car doesn't go a lick over 75mph on dirt...

Lost to him countless times trying to run the race from Miami to Amarillo...

-Will always speed past you after you've stayed in first for at least thirty seconds.
-Wreaks havok on roadside objects such as light poles, fences, and even traffic without bleeding a millimeter of speed.
-Has the inane ability to plow his performance spec car through the thickest swaths of vegetation while accelerating past 200mph
-His henchmen Oscar and Hannah will constantly hound you while in second place, speeding past and immediately crashing into the nearest gaurdrail or immovable object, only to reappear seconds later to pull off a textbook pit maneuver to spin you out.
-Will stay a minimum of 200 yards in front of you for a pre-determined minute before letting you shoot past in an act of mercy only to repeat the process twenty to thirty times in a race.
-Once you hit checkpoint 29 out of 30, will enter mach 3 and reach a dimension of speed humankind has not yet discovered.

Why does this feel more like a punishment?
Are we not supposed to level up, or...?

[Screebing For Vengeance]

You know, for all the complaints I see about magic rubberbanding AI beating people flawlessly, I have yet to experience it. I regularly outpace the AI by upwards of 30 seconds on Faction missions, and this is with the average car level being 1100 - 1200 all around. The hour+ faction missions usually result in me finishing with a good 30 - 45 second lead over second place. Yeah, they've got some wonky ass rubberbanding going on, but it's not even remotely impossible to beat.

[kira setsuna]

the fact its a stat based game is why he's mad, hell, i am too! my camaro is sitting at 1267 right now and even in low level mission the a.i. hounds you, if youre sitting at the games highest tier then the a.i. shouldnt be a worry, maybe a nuisance if you cant drive, but how its programmed ruins 1/3 of the game

the only place high level cars matter is in pvp races and thats still kinda borked considering newbies show up and get smoked like they dont exists.

dont even get me started on the random a** police watch system in free drive

[Screebing For Vengeance]

If they didn't do catchup and rubberbanding to keep the AI competitive, you'd trounce them even worse and races would be insanely boring because it'd be a case of "Get in first within 30 seconds, never see opponents ever again."

It's -really- not that bad. Drive cleanly and you'll still trash the computer cars. I'd rather have a challenge than a race full of opponents that vanish after the first checkpoint never to be seen again because they just can't keep up.

[❤︎SinѺn❤]

The police A.I is nutty. What's worse is they are bulit like tanks. Even though my humber should knock out most police cars. where as the A.I racers are just fast and I can simply smash em across the side. I guess that might make sense if it was trucks, but it's downright annoying. t.t

[Splitsec-_-]

There Is always that one AI that is faster than u and can take 90 degree corners like a boss without slowing down but I still havent lost in any of the faction missions but everything said above is so true everyone of those points about hte OP AI are so true but I still win first place

[hrolkrug]

Publicado originalmente por T1g4h:

If they didn't do catchup and rubberbanding to keep the AI competitive, you'd trounce them even worse and races would be insanely boring because it'd be a case of "Get in first within 30 seconds, never see opponents ever again."

It's -really- not that bad. Drive cleanly and you'll still trash the computer cars. I'd rather have a challenge than a race full of opponents that vanish after the first checkpoint never to be seen again because they just can't keep up.

exactly like test drive unlimited 2. there was no rubberbanding there and it didnt even feel like a race. i would use the lowest horsepower car in the tier and STILL be in first place in under a minute in every race. it got to the point that i would literally sit at the start and give the ai a 15-30 second head start just to make it slightly interesting for a couple of minutes before i blow by and regularly finished MINUTES ahead of the ai.

[freakshowfreak]

Publicado originalmente por T1g4h:

If they didn't do catchup and rubberbanding to keep the AI competitive, you'd trounce them even worse and races would be insanely boring because it'd be a case of "Get in first within 30 seconds, never see opponents ever again."

It's -really- not that bad. Drive cleanly and you'll still trash the computer cars. I'd rather have a challenge than a race full of opponents that vanish after the first checkpoint never to be seen again because they just can't keep up.

dude you like to be insulted with cheapp tricks like this ??? you think taht makes it a challange ????

I tested this rubber it's absolute bull S H I t....... if you let 1 person race away and the others drive slower there will be 2 ai on number one constantly the other ai devides through the other players.... no mater how bad or how good you are they will keep overtaking and then brake and let them be overtaken buy players..... thgis is the whole length of the race for hours long.....


if the 1st person playing stops.... the ai will drive very sl;ow..... then like say the 1st player waits 5 to 8km to let the second player to cath up the ai will only have raced about 3 km further.... and then when the players start to drive again...... they will catch up to that ai within 1 or 2 chackpoints.......


so you like ai like that ??? you think that will make the game less boring ???

I rather have no ai at all then or have them miles in front or behind me.....

a race should be fair and not this


BULL S H I T !!!

I regret buying this on my ubi acount


DO NOT BUY UNTILL THIS IS FIXED

[kira setsuna]

Publicado originalmente por T1g4h:

If they didn't do catchup and rubberbanding to keep the AI competitive, you'd trounce them even worse and races would be insanely boring because it'd be a case of "Get in first within 30 seconds, never see opponents ever again."

It's -really- not that bad. Drive cleanly and you'll still trash the computer cars. I'd rather have a challenge than a race full of opponents that vanish after the first checkpoint never to be seen again because they just can't keep up.

the way i see it the a.i. should be tuned to be a threat for its given race level. So if youre a person whos just pushing through the story and not upgrading obsessively they would be pretty much fair.

on the other hand if youre like most of us, and and youve spent hours in pvp races and doing jump skills to max out a car then you SHOULD be overleveled and the a.i. SHOULDNT be hounding you in every race.

it just seems to me if the devs made it so stupidly easy to build up a mean car, why put in the rubberband a.i.? it just makes it so the stats are useless in anything where you go against the computer.

[Screebing For Vengeance]

Publicado originalmente por kira_setsuna:

Publicado originalmente por T1g4h:

If they didn't do catchup and rubberbanding to keep the AI competitive, you'd trounce them even worse and races would be insanely boring because it'd be a case of "Get in first within 30 seconds, never see opponents ever again."

It's -really- not that bad. Drive cleanly and you'll still trash the computer cars. I'd rather have a challenge than a race full of opponents that vanish after the first checkpoint never to be seen again because they just can't keep up.

the way i see it the a.i. should be tuned to be a threat for its given race level. So if youre a person whos just pushing through the story and not upgrading obsessively they would be pretty much fair.

on the other hand if youre like most of us, and and youve spent hours in pvp races and doing jump skills to max out a car then you SHOULD be overleveled and the a.i. SHOULDNT be hounding you in every race.

it just seems to me if the devs made it so stupidly easy to build up a mean car, why put in the rubberband a.i.? it just makes it so the stats are useless in anything where you go against the computer.

The problem with your method is, then there's literally no challenge, at all. If they didn't put in some form of catchup, then you'd build up your crazy levelled car, and there'd be zero point to doing races because there'd be no competition. You'd walk away from the AI and win every single time without trying. And frankly, that would be insanely boring. I can deal with rubberbanding AI if it means it keeps the races interesting at least.

[freakshowfreak]

it's not intresting to have them warping around you dude you see them driving through cars poles without slowing down to catch up to the number 1 player its insulting its not chalanging at all its just as playing against a aimbotter


the ai is so stupidly programmed to overtake you and then let you pass again over and over and over for the whole length of the 4 hour race ..... if you call that fun you should see a docter

[Screebing For Vengeance]

Publicado originalmente por freakshowfreak:

it's not intresting to have them warping around you dude you see them driving through cars poles without slowing down to catch up to the number 1 player its insulting its not chalanging at all its just as playing against a aimbotter


the ai is so stupidly programmed to overtake you and then let you pass again over and over and over for the whole length of the 4 hour race ..... if you call that fun you should see a docter

Again, I'd rather have their current behavior than no form of competition at all. It keeps things interesting and keeps the hour+ races from turning into boring cakewalks. Suck it up and keep trying, they're seriously not that hard to beat.

[freakshowfreak]

Publicado originalmente por T1g4h:

Publicado originalmente por freakshowfreak:

it's not intresting to have them warping around you dude you see them driving through cars poles without slowing down to catch up to the number 1 player its insulting its not chalanging at all its just as playing against a aimbotter


the ai is so stupidly programmed to overtake you and then let you pass again over and over and over for the whole length of the 4 hour race ..... if you call that fun you should see a docter

Again, I'd rather have their current behavior than no form of competition at all. It keeps things interesting and keeps the hour+ races from turning into boring cakewalks. Suck it up and keep trying, they're seriously not that hard to beat.

so when you play with friends a faction race and one has a much better car you think it's fun that what ever you do the ai will split between the people and just stick to them the whole 4 hours... you think it's fun thet 2 ai will get a false super boost and stay with the fast player ??? you think it's fun that the other ai will devide over the other players and stick to them running them from the road driving through objects then slow down and let them self fall behind and then repeat..... again and again and again ???

its not that keep trying can change that that's how the game is now just lazy programing nothing to do with skill or what ever


think you never did a faction mission with friends with one car a lot better then the one of the other players.... I have no problem he will be faster but I do have a problem that the ai will cheat because of that and ruin the game

[Screebing For Vengeance]

Except skill is a factor, because if you run a clean race, you're seriously going to trounce them. I'm not kidding you, do the Raid spec Faction missions "One Huge Loop" and "way Out West" or whatever they're called. If you drive clean and run flat out, you're going to finish about 30 - 45 seconds ahead of the 2nd place AI, period. And this is with catchup on. Imagine if there was no rubberbanding to try and keep them close to you, every race would have you finishing with a ridiculous lead if you can drive cleanly.

[freakshowfreak]

dude read what I stated earlyer... when you play with friends..... and one has a much better car he will get a lead and pull 2 ai with him because they stick to him making it impossible for the others to get in 2nd or 3rd place no matter how good they are it's just so broken now....



ai devides between the players so that every player will have a few ai to play with and they are so broken that they will even colide through cars and have no speed penalty no nothing they just warp through.....

that is no fun......


even worse when the fastest player stops to wait the ai will slow down also.... it really is that bad I tested this all yesterday and it is not making the game intresting at all

if you don't believe me I can even show you this in game.

[Treard]

The catchup system does take away the fun in the game.