Needs controller support

[if...]

Not going to download an app on my phone just to control this game.

[Tsuru]

A standard controller won't work for what they are trying to do.

I don't understand people's hate for using a phone for a controller. I doubt many people use their phone 100% of the time for calls or text and nothing else.

[Glaicee]

While the concept may seem odd considering it's not a mobile game, it's really just having all the game rules, your tokens, character sheet, and additional info in one package!

[if...]

All I'm hearing is no controller support, so that's a pass from me.

[Artan]

Me too! Phone controller via an app = no purchase. Shame as otherwise I am their exact target audience as a long time Gloomhaven player.

[pantheonwhaley]

So when you guys end up going Eon Altar and nobody can download the app anymore your game is dead forever?

[spderweb]

I think the main issue would be that you're going to lose sales from people that don't have enough cell phones. Like, I have a family of three. But my kid doesn't have a phone. So if we all wanted to play together, too bad i guess?
What exactly prevents a pop up UI for non phone players?

[Shimaaji]

Originally posted by Glaicee:

While the concept may seem odd considering it's not a mobile game, it's really just having all the game rules, your tokens, character sheet, and additional info in one package!

I certainly see the appeal of your vision and hope to see it realized. Eon Altar has already demonstrated how awesome this approach can be even if pursued by a small indie studio.

However: Do you have a concept to actually make the game 'preservable'?

One option that I could think about would be to offer clients (not the main game, but the controller-client) as freely available downloads for Android, iOS, Windows, Linux and MacOS. In that case chances are good that people will still be able to make it work even after the app is no longer available (for current devices or at all) on the two app stores.

I think clearly communicating this as a commitment would alleviate a lot of the valid concerns that you would / will be facing if you were to exclusively tie your games' controllers to those stores that require yearly updates just to keep apps listed.

(Side-effect: People who do not (want to) have a Smartphone could join in on their Notebooks. Those things have become fairly compact as well.)

[An Angry Turtle]

I don't have a smart phone (personal choice - even poor people make stupid decisions to buy spy devices known as smart phones so don't waste your time trying to insult me), so I couldn't even play this game if I was willing to buy into a stupid gimmick. Why would you not make an option for keyboard/mouse? You want a character sheet separate from the game? Make a separate popup or something on the computer.

[Tsuru]

Originally posted by An Angry Turtle:

I don't have a smart phone (personal choice - even poor people make stupid decisions to buy spy devices known as smart phones so don't waste your time trying to insult me), so I couldn't even play this game if I was willing to buy into a stupid gimmick. Why would you not make an option for keyboard/mouse? You want a character sheet separate from the game? Make a separate popup or something on the computer.

I mean technically you have one. It's called a phone emulator.

[Deathfromace]

Originally posted by if...:

All I'm hearing is no controller support, so that's a pass from me.

Good day to have fun is everyone pulling up their character sheets and such every second you're in town and mid mission. Having controller support for a couch coop game is insane and the phone part is way better.

The one potional downside is what happens when the app breaks after X amount of years and they quit supporting the game. How will people play it....etc

[Tsuru]

Originally posted by Deathfromace:

Originally posted by if...:

All I'm hearing is no controller support, so that's a pass from me.

Good day to have fun is everyone pulling up their character sheets and such every second you're in town and mid mission. Having controller support for a couch coop game is insane and the phone part is way better.

The one potional downside is what happens when the app breaks after X amount of years and they quit supporting the game. How will people play it....etc

Same thing goes for alot of older PC games that are no longer supported due to windows.

[DrEvilHomer]

Originally posted by An Angry Turtle:

I don't have a smart phone (personal choice - even poor people make stupid decisions to buy spy devices known as smart phones so don't waste your time trying to insult me), so I couldn't even play this game if I was willing to buy into a stupid gimmick. Why would you not make an option for keyboard/mouse? You want a character sheet separate from the game? Make a separate popup or something on the computer.

he says on a forum for PC games...lol Either you are a hypocrite or a liar.

[DrEvilHomer]

Originally posted by if...:

All I'm hearing is no controller support, so that's a pass from me.

well...bye.

[Jackson Lamb]

Originally posted by if...:

Not going to download an app on my phone just to control this game.

Then you aren't part of the target audience and should probably find a different forum to darken.

[Deathfromace]

Originally posted by Tsuru:

Originally posted by Deathfromace:

Good day to have fun is everyone pulling up their character sheets and such every second you're in town and mid mission. Having controller support for a couch coop game is insane and the phone part is way better.

The one potional downside is what happens when the app breaks after X amount of years and they quit supporting the game. How will people play it....etc

Same thing goes for alot of older PC games that are no longer supported due to windows.

Not really, older PC games you can always find a way to get working on modern computers. A game where a portion of it is defunct is vastly different. I would hope when that happens for this game (and lets say jackbox games) they either release a way to play them without the official app or help the community with a workaround.