Best Early Weapon?

[iBe ImmorTaLiiTy]

Hey there,

I got myself the deluxe version and with that comes the "Oppossum Sai" (dual swords). I normally don't go the Dex way, so I want to know two things:

1. Is it easy to get the stats for other weapons once you have picked your starting weapon? For example, you pick the dual swords to get the stats for the Oppossum Sai. but later decide you don't like the dual swords, and want to go with a different weapon. How easy would it be to go a different route?

2. I saw in a screenshot that someone was using a Scythe of some sorts. Is the scythe considered a greatsword type? I love scythes, I might just spec for that xD

[Something]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von iBe ImmorTaLiiTy:

Hey there,

I got myself the deluxe version and with that comes the "Oppossum Sai" (dual swords). I normally don't go the Dex way, so I want to know two things:

1. Is it easy to get the stats for other weapons once you have picked your starting weapon? For example, you pick the dual swords to get the stats for the Oppossum Sai. but later decide you don't like the dual swords, and want to go with a different weapon. How easy would it be to go a different route?

2. I saw in a screenshot that someone was using a Scythe of some sorts. Is the scythe considered a greatsword type? I love scythes, I might just spec for that xD

The weapon choice at the beginning of the game doesn't really effect your starting stats in any build-significant way. I started with dual-blades and I'm slowly kinda building my character a Quality build. If you're unfamiliar with the term, Quality is a build in the Soulsborne games where you put an equal amount of points into Strength and Dexterity so you can use as many weapons as possible. I'll do a more one-stat focused build on subsequent playthroughs.

I found a Pickaxe which is kind of like a hand-scythe. I also found a Greatsword shaped like a Scythe with a Scythe-like weapon skill behind a locked door in the first region you come to past the tutorial sewer level. I wont mention it's name or what drops it in case you consider that kind of thing spoilery, but when you get to that first town and you talk to the merchant, spend the money on the cemetery key he sells. It opens a door in that region to a secret area that contains the mob that has the scythe greatsword.

As far as the Sai's that come with the deluxe edition go, I'm not all that impressed by them. The weapon skill does good damage but it's normal attack combo is the weakest of all the other dual swords I've come across so far. BUUUUT that weapon art it has though will stagger enemies, even bosses, you hit with it. So that's the trade-off.

[iBe ImmorTaLiiTy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Something:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von iBe ImmorTaLiiTy:

Hey there,

I got myself the deluxe version and with that comes the "Oppossum Sai" (dual swords). I normally don't go the Dex way, so I want to know two things:

1. Is it easy to get the stats for other weapons once you have picked your starting weapon? For example, you pick the dual swords to get the stats for the Oppossum Sai. but later decide you don't like the dual swords, and want to go with a different weapon. How easy would it be to go a different route?

2. I saw in a screenshot that someone was using a Scythe of some sorts. Is the scythe considered a greatsword type? I love scythes, I might just spec for that xD

The weapon choice at the beginning of the game doesn't really effect your starting stats in any build-significant way. I started with dual-blades and I'm slowly kinda building my character a Quality build. If you're unfamiliar with the term, Quality is a build in the Soulsborne games where you put an equal amount of points into Strength and Dexterity so you can use as many weapons as possible. I'll do a more one-stat focused build on subsequent playthroughs.

I found a Pickaxe which is kind of like a hand-scythe. I also found a Greatsword shaped like a Scythe with a Scythe-like weapon skill behind a locked door in the first region you come to past the tutorial sewer level. I wont mention it's name or what drops it in case you consider that kind of thing spoilery, but when you get to that first town and you talk to the merchant, spend the money on the cemetery key he sells. It opens a door in that region to a secret area that contains the mob that has the scythe greatsword.

As far as the Sai's that come with the deluxe edition go, I'm not all that impressed by them. The weapon skill does good damage but it's normal attack combo is the weakest of all the other dual swords I've come across so far. BUUUUT that weapon art it has though will stagger enemies, even bosses, you hit with it. So that's the trade-off.

Thx for the detailed explanation! I know exactly what I want now. Since the scythe weapon is close to where you start, I will invest in strength and pick the greatsword. I can always switch it up if I don't like it then.
Thank you! :-)

[Milly]

i got a way to respec for free in the swamp after about 6 hours in, so play around with stats to your hearts content, you will be able to target certain builds relatively early

[Ringo]

You'll get access to several weapon types through the first couple of zones (2-4 hours depending on skill and speed) which should give you a pretty good idea of what you want to play with. None of them have very high stat requirements to use.

[Something]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Milly:

i got a way to respec for free in the swamp after about 6 hours in, so play around with stats to your hearts content, you will be able to target certain builds relatively early

Yeah. I figured there would probably be a respec of some sort I just haven't gotten far enough in yet to unlock one.

@OP
Just in case you were curious though, the Sword-Scythe thing we were talking about has a requirement of 15 strength 10 technique, with a C scaling in Strength at base level. Figured since I"m on I'd let ya know what stats to aim for. I think you already have that if you start as the Greatsword though. Otherwise 15 Strength is super easy to come by and you can just dump the rest into survival stats or something to make fights a bit easier. #ProSoulsborneTip

[iBe ImmorTaLiiTy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Something:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Milly:

i got a way to respec for free in the swamp after about 6 hours in, so play around with stats to your hearts content, you will be able to target certain builds relatively early

Yeah. I figured there would probably be a respec of some sort I just haven't gotten far enough in yet to unlock one.

@OP
Just in case you were curious though, the Sword-Scythe thing we were talking about has a requirement of 15 strength 10 technique, with a C scaling in Strength at base level. Figured since I"m on I'd let ya know what stats to aim for. I think you already have that if you start as the Greatsword though. Otherwise 15 Strength is super easy to come by and you can just dump the rest into survival stats or something to make fights a bit easier. #ProSoulsborneTip

Appreciate it lots, friend! Thank you :-)

[Jero]

Halbert is amazing, it's special knocks enemy over and you can stunlock most beefy foes that way.

[Casval Zem Daikun]

Honestly? The drills.
Why?
They're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DRILLS, man.

I just wish there was a 1h variant.

[iBe ImmorTaLiiTy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Casval Zem Daikun:

Honestly? The drills.
Why?
They're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DRILLS, man.

I just wish there was a 1h variant.

I've tried most of them out.. I first went with the "scythe" you find at the cemetery for a while, but I did not like how much I was getting hit and how slow it was.. Eventually I found the "Holy Ritual" 1h sword.. I invested some points into spirit and have never looked back since, haha!

So, it really just comes down to preference I think :-)

[Rancholi]

I love the katana materialism you get it realy early in the game, and the weapon skill its a parry that if you use right you can trivialize most of the bosses

[Shirakani]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rancholi:

I love the katana materialism you get it realy early in the game, and the weapon skill its a parry that if you use right you can trivialize most of the bosses

This. Ever since I got it, I'm rocking it exclusively. It absolutely carries until you get the other boss katanas.

Best thing about its WS being a parry is you can have Shield on your block button and not have to give up Counter.

[VarBear]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shirakani:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rancholi:

I love the katana materialism you get it realy early in the game, and the weapon skill its a parry that if you use right you can trivialize most of the bosses

This. Ever since I got it, I'm rocking it exclusively. It absolutely carries until you get the other boss katanas.

Best thing about its WS being a parry is you can have Shield on your block button and not have to give up Counter.

I don't see the point in ever using the Katana parry when the normal parry has way more active frames, and you'll end up doing more damage doing Fatal blow on top of WS/basic attacks while boss is staggered before and after the Fatal.

[Something]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von VarBear:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shirakani:

This. Ever since I got it, I'm rocking it exclusively. It absolutely carries until you get the other boss katanas.

Best thing about its WS being a parry is you can have Shield on your block button and not have to give up Counter.

I don't see the point in ever using the Katana parry when the normal parry has way more active frames, and you'll end up doing more damage doing Fatal blow on top of WS/basic attacks while boss is staggered before and after the Fatal.

That's the same conclusion I came to.

[raraa]

halberd and bonecrackers are like very early weapons that are great even on end game. Materialism is a good one too.

[Akameka]

Best early weapon ?

The initial heavy blade they give you. Hands down.

The 160 initial damage means that you can stunlock the s**t out of almost every ennemy with weapon skill attack & charged heavy attack. Including bosses. Which means you don't have to deal with their bullcrap attack paterns.

I took it after using dual sword, and I got from being bullied by everything to bullying everything. Remember thoses annoying jetpack users in the towers ? you can just stunlock them to death with R1 spam. Meaning they instantly go from "infuriating attack patern" tier to " I don't even know you" tier.

I got myself the deluxe version and with that comes the "Oppossum Sai" (dual swords). I normally don't go the Dex way, so I want to know two things:

Don't. Believe me just don't. I got up to the tower with thoses. It's terrible. It can't make flinch anything aside from most basic mobs, even after dumping 40 lvl in DEX. you'll have to rely on parry to get any decent attack window on anything. At least if you want to dual blade (sort off), use the dualhand drills sold by the first merchant. Its 120 base damage and explosive combo finish will give you a way easier time

or if you want a 'normal' diifculty exprience, mainly use a one handed blade or something like that. Heavy weapons are kinda easy mode because of stunlock