Full ECML KX to York including loops

[Craigals]

I've just sent this email to DTG so hopefully I'll get a response from them

Hi Dovetail Games

I want to thankyou for bringing us the London to Peterborough route, however I would like to make a suggestion to you which would add more fun into this route.

My suggestions are:
Peterborough to York ECML2 (Extension) Links up with London to Peterborough ECML1 The line adds 110 miles of track to the original length of track, we'd be able to use class 43, class 91 and class 317

Leeds Loop ECML 3 Links up with ECML 1 & 2 adds extra track and uses above locos including class 158 and class 220 stations would be Doncaster, Bentley, Adwick, South Elmsall, Fitzwilliam, Sandal & Agbrigg, Wakefield Westgate, Outwood, Leeds, Cross Gates, Garforth, East Garthforth, Micklewood, Church Fenton, Ulleskelf and York, Including the direct line from York to Doncaster

Hertford Loop ECML 4 links up with ECML 1,2 & 3 and goes from Stevenage to Alexandra Palace via Walton-at-Stone, Hertford North, Bayford, Cuffley, Crews Hill, Gordon Hill, Enfield Chase, Grange Park, Winchmore Hill, Palmers Green, Bowes Park, locos used would be all the above including class 365 and class 313

I hope you take this as a suggestion, the above routes will work on there own or by linking them up with ECML 1.

I do hope to see these 3 extensions coming soon

[FOUR The Dark Side]

It has been stated several times that route length is a crucial factor. It has also been mentioned by the devs some time ago, if I am not mistaken.

[Craigals]

I checked the other old forums and it seems creative rails have already done part 2 and are working on leeds loop, but I'd rather they be on here by DTG with the possibilty of linking them up as I'd love to take a class 220 from KX to york via Leeds

[FOUR The Dark Side]

Mentioning the third parties is forbidden here.

[roadierunway12]

The original ECML route is slow enough already (screen lag due to number of assets) without a whole load more assets being added on. I think DTG are done and dusted with the ECMLS, and the Hertford North loop has no scenery because blank parts of routes are always left for personal scenery extensions. the ECML is currently 76 miles long, almost the longest route on TS, and your talking about adding 110 more miles. Route length is a big problem in the TS modelling world. A nice idea, but quite unlikely.

[Craigals]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Westernesse:

Mentioning the third parties is forbidden here.

It;s on RSC / DTG older forums. that's why I mentioned it. but as stated would be even better if they integrated ECML 2,3 & 4 here with the possibility of ECML 5

[FOUR The Dark Side]

Oprindeligt skrevet af craigals:

It;s on RSC / DTG older forums.

Those are not RSC older forums. Those are separate Steam Forums, which are not controlled by devs. Here DTG have separate rules.

[Keith]

I think the original discussion is bogged down in the suggestion of being an "extension" - the OP did say they could work on their own rather than as an extension. It is perfectly viable to have Peterborough-York as a separate route, which would make a lot of sense given there is already York-Newcastle.

Oprindeligt skrevet af marksanderson1960:

the ECML is currently 76 miles long, almost the longest route on TS

76 miles is about half the length of Marias Pass. OK that one is much less densely populated, but then WCML North is 100 miles with several parallel routes.

[Craigals]

I did say these would work seperately or could be linked up so members had a choice for example

ECML 2 £xx.xx
ECML 2 including linkup to ECML1 £xx.xx

ECML 3 £xx.xx
ECML 3 Including Linkup to ECML 1 & 2 £xx.xx

ECML 4 £xx.xx
ECML 4 inluding linkup to ECML 1,2 & 3 £xx.xx

[N Quarter]

Oprindeligt skrevet af craigals:

I did say these would work seperately or could be linked up so members had a choice for example

ECML 2 £xx.xx
ECML 2 including linkup to ECML1 £xx.xx

ECML 3 £xx.xx
ECML 3 Including Linkup to ECML 1 & 2 £xx.xx

ECML 4 £xx.xx
ECML 4 inluding linkup to ECML 1,2 & 3 £xx.xx

Ahh indeed, right down the bottom, my bad!

[Craigals]

Then they could do ECML 6 (Newcastle to Edinburgh)

ECML 5 is York to Newcastle so again it would look something like this:

ECML 5 £xx.xx
ECML 5 including linkup to ECML 1,2,3 & 4 £xx.xx

ECML 6 £xx.xx
ECML 6 including linkup to ECML 1,2,3,4 & 5 £xx.xx

The maximum price DTG could charge to link them all up if members wanted to link them up would be around £27.99 / €33.86 / $46.57

[Mark]

Oprindeligt skrevet af craigals:

Then they could do ECML 6 (Newcastle to Edinburgh)

What I would give for this to be added! Such beautiful scenery along this part of the route.

[MaTT]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mark:

Oprindeligt skrevet af craigals:

Then they could do ECML 6 (Newcastle to Edinburgh)

What I would give for this to be added! Such beautiful scenery along this part of the route.

Its already well into production, the screen shots look awesome, unfortunately because its third party its forbidden to directly tell you who is making it and where you will be able to get it from on this forum. however its the same company that made the Edinbugh to Dundee section and the modern version of York to Newcastle.

Interestingly of the three sections of the ECML available and the two sections currently in development not a single route mile has been laid by DTG (unless you count Doncaster works,) so any hope of a combined pack of routes making up the whole main line from a single vendor at a discount requires joined up thinking and is extreamly unlikely to ever happen, anyone who wants to drive the whole line in a chain of scenarios is always going to need to shop around ... Its a shame because as routes go with a few notable exceptions its well stocked and its possible (with reskins) to closely model a prototypical variation in traffic over the whole route for a wide timescale between now and the mid 70s. Because of the sheer variation in stock between London and Dundee it represents a huge potential market for increased sales of existing DLC.