Graphics with low end device

[TEBusEnthusiast]

Hi, I have train simulator classic sadly with a laptop which causes me no choice but to turn off dynamic lighting. Its a blessing with good smooth frame rate however it is also a curse because this causes some textures on some trains e.g the class 387 EP from AP to look really bad and low res. Is there something I can do to have not only good graphics but good frame rate as with dynamic lighting im stuck with 14 fps.

[trev123]

If you check out the specs for TS Classic 2024 you will find laptops are not supported.

System Requirements
Minimum for 32-bit:
OS *: 32-bit Windows 7 Service Pack 1, 8.1 or 10 Required (Other OS versions and types are not supported)
Processor: Intel Core-i3 4330 3.50 GHz Dual Core or AMD A8 6600K 3.90 GHz Quad Core or Better
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti or AMD Radeon R9 Graphics with 1 GB Dedicated VRAM or Better
DirectX®: 9.0c
Network: Broadband Connection (May incur additional costs for use)
Storage: 40 GB or more available space (Additional Add-Ons will require more)
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Audio Device
Additional Notes: Requires mouse and keyboard or Xbox Controller
Laptop, Notebook, Mobile or Low Power versions of the above specifications (including Intel or Integrated Graphics) may work but are not supported. Updates to Chipset, Graphics and Audio Device Drivers may be required. For information relating to recommended specifications for Train Simulator 64-bit, please refer to the Train Simulator 2019 User Guide.
Recommended for 32-bit:
OS *: 32- or 64-bit Windows 7 Service Pack 1, 8.1 or 10 Required (Other OS versions and types are not supported)
Processor: Intel Core-i5 4690 3.50 GHz Quad Core or AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.80 GHz Quad Core or Better
Memory: 4 GB RAM (maximum possible under 32-bit Windows)/16 GB or Better (For 64-bit Windows)
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 or AMD Radeon RX 480 with 4 GB Dedicated VRAM or Better
DirectX®: 9.0c
Network: Broadband Connection (May incur additional costs for use)
Storage: High Performance SSD Recommended with 40 GB or more available space (Additional Add-Ons will require more)
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Audio Device
Additional Notes: Requires mouse and keyboard or Xbox Controller
Laptop, Notebook, Mobile or Low Power versions of the above specifications (including Intel or Integrated Graphics) may work but are not supported. Updates to Chipset, Graphics and Audio Device Drivers may be required. For information relating to recommended specifications for Train Simulator 64-bit, please refer to the Train Simulator 2019 User Guide.
* Starting January 1st, 2024, the Steam Client will only support Windows 10 and later versions.
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[TEBusEnthusiast]

Thanks for the support. Yeah tbh when I first got TSC I was skeptical that it would run well because all I have is a laptop sadly. I do wish to get a PC one day.

[Felix.AVMP]

Makes me wonder, what I am doing wrong, that TSC works on my laptop with all bells and whistles?

It is all a question of choosing right machine for the job – the sad truth is, that not even desktop on the minimum requirements will not be able to run TSC satisfactorily.
And vice versa, of course. There are many laptops on the market which will run this game more than happily.

The truth is, that DTG's TSC hardware requirements are obsolete (last major change came in 2018), somewhat contradictory and given the current state of all affairs even borderline nonsensical (and it must be said, that DTG/RSC has a long tradition of having such hardware reqs. dating back to early Railworks days, because pre-2018 hw reqs. were simply put hilarious).

[Murks81]

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

Hi, I have train simulator classic sadly with a laptop which causes me no choice but to turn off dynamic lighting. Its a blessing with good smooth frame rate however it is also a curse because this causes some textures on some trains e.g the class 387 EP from AP to look really bad and low res. Is there something I can do to have not only good graphics but good frame rate as with dynamic lighting im stuck with 14 fps.

specs of the laptop?

[lazarov27]

Frankly TSC has pretty dubious performance irrespective of hardware.
I would strongly suggest investigating Lossless Scaling app, with it it is a much better experience with TSC
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

[TEBusEnthusiast]

Originally posted by Murks81:

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

Hi, I have train simulator classic sadly with a laptop which causes me no choice but to turn off dynamic lighting. Its a blessing with good smooth frame rate however it is also a curse because this causes some textures on some trains e.g the class 387 EP from AP to look really bad and low res. Is there something I can do to have not only good graphics but good frame rate as with dynamic lighting im stuck with 14 fps.

specs of the laptop?

Intel Core i5 10th gen

[TEBusEnthusiast]

Originally posted by lazarov27:

Frankly TSC has pretty dubious performance irrespective of hardware.
I would strongly suggest investigating Lossless Scaling app, with it it is a much better experience with TSC
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

Could try this out one day thank you for this suggestion

[trev123]

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

Originally posted by Murks81:

specs of the laptop?

Intel Core i5 10th gen

We would need a bit more than that—ram, Graphics Card or chip, Windows Operating System. i5 what. I have an i5 10600k CPU.

[x1Heavy]

Im running on a 12500 CPU on a ROG ASUS Desktop computer that cost I think 980 on sale two winters ago and 64 gig of GSKILL Ram was another 200 off Newegg next day to the door. It has a 3050 card which is no longer being made you want to get into a desktop that is at least a 4070 card or newer.

In any case DTG's age is starting to show. I am running a new game called Railroader and frankly I can tell the differences between the two products in terms of lighting, vegetation and so on. I run DTG on lower settings than max. Its adequate.

Feather River is DTG's best work. In terms of view distance and just general enjoyment of railroading without tonnage issue in doubt towards summit or nicky picky street running that particular DLC is what you want.

My previous desktop had four individual video cards on it and exceeded 5K in total costs. It burned after 8 years round the clock up time since i built it so I got my moneys worth out of it. The new ROG reduced the power bill from 150 a month on that old machine down to less than 50 a month which means after two years its more than paid itself back in total spend.

I have two laptops on the shelf one a win 11 modern and the other a 7.

I do not game on those two computers at all. Nothing goes on them. They sit there in storage for really bad days and have for the last 10 years plus for one and I think 5 years now for the other.

[Murks81]

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

Originally posted by Murks81:

specs of the laptop?

Intel Core i5 10th gen

should be fine, make sure to use the power cable while gaming.
had an Intel Pentium Gold 5420 with UHD 610. Was able to run TSC with maxed out graphics, except dynamic lighting and shadows turned all the way down...

for the bad textures, try different anisotropic filtering settings and anti aliasing settings in game.

https://youtu.be/uyc9mntXR4o?feature=shared

avoid routes with extrem details like the new zealand route and badly optimised ones like LIRR.

[Felix.AVMP]

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

Intel Core i5 10th gen

This is not the whole specification.
And?
GPU, RAM?
Or at least precise model number of your computer.


I am not going to force you to dump all of your laptop parameters, because most of them are irrelevant anyway, but if you don't have a dedicated GPU in your machine, you are pretty much out of luck, Intel's drivers are notoriously bad for gaming and when it comes to TSC, well, I would like to write that they are "hit and miss" thing, unfortunately, they are lately more far more "miss" than "hit" when it comes to TSC.

[TEBusEnthusiast]

Originally posted by Murks81:

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

Intel Core i5 10th gen

should be fine, make sure to use the power cable while gaming.
had an Intel Pentium Gold 5420 with UHD 610. Was able to run TSC with maxed out graphics, except dynamic lighting and shadows turned all the way down...

for the bad textures, try different anisotropic filtering settings and anti aliasing settings in game.

https://youtu.be/uyc9mntXR4o?feature=shared

avoid routes with extrem details like the new zealand route and badly optimised ones like LIRR.

may i ask you what is anisotropic filtering settings and how can activate them, is this from settings?

[TEBusEnthusiast]

Originally posted by Felix.AVMP:

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

Intel Core i5 10th gen

This is not the whole specification.
And?
GPU, RAM?
Or at least precise model number of your computer.


I am not going to force you to dump all of your laptop parameters, because most of them are irrelevant anyway, but if you don't have a dedicated GPU in your machine, you are pretty much out of luck, Intel's drivers are notoriously bad for gaming and when it comes to TSC, well, I would like to write that they are "hit and miss" thing, unfortunately, they are lately more far more "miss" than "hit" when it comes to TSC.

super sorry for the late reply to this message but i dont not have a gpu installed on my laptop with it instead using intergrated graphics meaning it probably means that its not going to run well.

[Murks81]

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

Originally posted by Murks81:

should be fine, make sure to use the power cable while gaming.
had an Intel Pentium Gold 5420 with UHD 610. Was able to run TSC with maxed out graphics, except dynamic lighting and shadows turned all the way down...

for the bad textures, try different anisotropic filtering settings and anti aliasing settings in game.

https://youtu.be/uyc9mntXR4o?feature=shared

avoid routes with extrem details like the new zealand route and badly optimised ones like LIRR.

may i ask you what is anisotropic filtering settings and how can activate them, is this from settings?

Yes, it's in the settings.

[TEBusEnthusiast]

Originally posted by Murks81:

Originally posted by TEBusEnthusiast:

may i ask you what is anisotropic filtering settings and how can activate them, is this from settings?

Yes, it's in the settings.

is this in advanced as i cannot find that no matter how hard i look. anti aliasing im going to keep trying but textures on trains like logos are darker due to the dynamic lighting being turned off with some parts of trains where theres meant to be a shine like the ap 365 and 377 make it look really bad.