Lossless Scaling

[Faust[er]]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

Just tried this with TSC. Wow. Tried it on Woodhead Blue first as the FPS on that route is awful. I'm now in the high 20 to 30 FPS using this when i'd get 15-18 at best. Best £4.71 i've invested in for TS.

[pjohnandlyns]

I've just run a scenario on this route to check what, if anything, had gone wrong but I'm getting FPS between 65 and 80 with no enhancements, so what's wrong at your end.

[Faust[er]]

Originally posted by pjohnandlyns:

I've just run a scenario on this route to check what, if anything, had gone wrong but I'm getting FPS between 65 and 80 with no enhancements, so what's wrong at your end.

I'm not saying anything is wrong. I'm saying that on first use the FPS have doubled for me. I used to get low FPS all over this route. I'd get 19 max. But on first try of Lossless i'm hitting high 20's and into 30's regarding FPS. I'm still experimenting with it however so maybe i can get more out of it. The first post above was just my initial thoughts on Lossless. I'm impressed with it.

[Highball Simulation]

Originally posted by Fauster:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

Just tried this with TSC. Wow. Tried it on Woodhead Blue first as the FPS on that route is awful. I'm now in the high 20 to 30 FPS using this when i'd get 15-18 at best. Best £4.71 i've invested in for TS.

There is a patch for the Woodhead route available from On Track Simulation which drastically improves framerate.

[Bobby]

I read somewhere that to go to properties of the .exe and 'disable firescreen optimisation' in compatibility mode -don't change anything else. It runs a solid 60fps regardless of what is going on etc.

[Chicken Balti]

Originally posted by Bobby:

I read somewhere that to go to properties of the .exe and 'disable firescreen optimisation' in compatibility mode -don't change anything else. It runs a solid 60fps regardless of what is going on etc.

Hello Bobby, with respect you may read lots of things and 'magic fixes' for this and that all over the web, that does not mean they all work. In reality any game or Sim will only run to the maximum capabilities of one's GPU/CPU.
Those with older hardware or a PC perhaps not meeting a game or Sims minimum requirements, will never obtain the FPS they perhaps want, no magic fixes for that despite what you may read.
Best.

[Bobby]

Originally posted by Chicken Balti:

Originally posted by Bobby:

I read somewhere that to go to properties of the .exe and 'disable firescreen optimisation' in compatibility mode -don't change anything else. It runs a solid 60fps regardless of what is going on etc.

Hello Bobby, with respect you may read lots of things and 'magic fixes' for this and that all over the web, that does not mean they all work. In reality any game or Sim will only run to the maximum capabilities of one's GPU/CPU.
Those with older hardware or a PC perhaps not meeting a game or Sims minimum requirements, will never obtain the FPS they perhaps want, no magic fixes for that despite what you may read.
Best.

Yes this was probably made for the good 'old days' of fast Single Core CPUs.
It performs exceptionally well for me with my i5-13400f (13th Gen) and RTX 4060 TI

[OldAlaskaGuy]

What are you sacrificing to get higher frame rates? 30-40 works well for me.

[Chicken Balti]

No such thing as a free lunch, any additional processing will always take away before trying to give back through frame gen/down-scaling/up-scaling. Reasonable raw horse-power/FPS to start with is always required to achieve the best outcome. Monitor/display refresh rate also plays a part, ideally generated frames matching or balanced part ratio of max refresh rate to avoid judder free FPS and better lower latency. On screen artefacts can also sometimes be visible if not set-up properly.

[Bobby]

1440@ 60fps DX12 setting. It's fine.
In comparison TSW2.3.4 are over 105fps with FreeSYnc/Gsync and max details.
You have got to be playing on a fast SSD, RAM and Motherboard.

[Chicken Balti]

Originally posted by Bobby:

1440@ 60fps DX12 setting. It's fine.
In comparison TSW2.3.4 are over 105fps with FreeSYnc/Gsync and max details.
You have got to be playing on a fast SSD, RAM and Motherboard.

I believe the OP has a 1050Ti GPU going from his past posts, so quite possibly an older system which will result in much lower gaming/Sim FPS, therefore the advantages much more restrained anyway.
As a PC-builder, I play TSC/TSW on a higher end PC at 4K (C2 OLED) using AMD's fluid motion frame generation, resulting in much higher FPS to start with before activating any additional processing.
All GPU/CPU/hardware relevant in the end that will always determine final outcomes.

[Phase3]

Does it work with any GPU ie AMD or nVidia?
Is it any difference to nVidia DSR settings?

[Chicken Balti]

Originally posted by Phase3:

Does it work with any GPU ie AMD or nVidia?
Is it any difference to nVidia DSR settings?

Hello Phase3, not heard from you for a while, hope you are well.
Are you referring to the OP's post or my Driver based AMD fluid motion frame gen processing? The frame-gen/down-scale/up-scale subject is complicated these days, as many types available for more modern GPU generations, although some work regardless of GPU maker (as long as a supported more modern GPU).
Best.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/fsr-3-1-frame-generation-playstation
https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/adrenalin/afmf.html

[Phase3]

CB
Many thanks for the info very useful and answers my question. Still alive and kicking . I can't answer too many of problems posed these days as my venerable rig is 5+ years old and my answers may not be up to date.

[Chicken Balti]

Originally posted by Phase3:

CB
Many thanks for the info very useful and answers my question. Still alive and kicking . I can't answer too many of problems posed these days as my venerable rig is 5+ years old and my answers may not be up to date.

Well still good to hear from you and hope your older rig able to adapt to the end of Windows 10 in October next year, unless of course already running Windows 11. It is certainly easy to get left behind these days with the rapid ever advancing world of modern PC hardware/software. It sometimes feels building a modern PC is out of date the following month..
I feel game and sim forums worldwide, will possibly be full of understandably frustrated folk not able to upgrade or afford to buy a Windows 11 PC over the coming 14 months, but as I said before, Microsoft seem to call it progress..
Keep well.

[Bobby]

Originally posted by Phase3:

CB
Many thanks for the info very useful and answers my question. Still alive and kicking . I can't answer too many of problems posed these days as my venerable rig is 5+ years old and my answers may not be up to date.

Prior to my first real build at Xmas. My 2nd rig was 15 years old! (33 years pc building/playing) and it is still going strong with Win10 and had 3 upgrades in that time. It always pays to build your own.

Now I’m on Win11 and very modern HW that cost me literally the same price as my Win 10 build was 15 years ago.
It would have been cheaper with the now artificially inflated GPU prices and companies trying to recoup their loses pre covid.