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https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/gp40-2-4-industry-standard-part-2-bugged.31931/#post-446060
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/granger-heartland-kansas-city-to-topeka-scenario-dead-end.19551/
There is also a fix for a coupler bug done by the forum member Torfmeister that is available for that route. If you are interested you can read about it at:
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/fix-available-for-consist-breaking-issues-updated.50579/
I hope the links answer some of your questions.
Sometimes dwarf signals, switches etc refuse to function when I have the end of train or engine sitting very close to or on top of them.
@x1Heavy: It's a power switch. When activated, a blue line does appear, but for some reason does not work. The train derails when the engine rolls over it.
I haven't tried this scenario in a while and I don't remember the derailment. I'll have to try it again and see if I get the same result...
I recall watching the credits from Jak & Daxter. The number of beta testers was crazy! Like everything else, it's a matter of money. American companies are more interested in launch dates. The Japanese are tuned in to perfection.
Sorry for chasing the rabbit. Sign of old age, I fear.
However, that is not what is happening here though. We have had a few fairly involved discussions about the QC issues over on the DTG forums. For the most part DTG products are released in working order, but when an issue is found after the fact it is "hit and miss" whether the issue will be addressed. This is probably due to staffing availability and many other factors that we aren't privy too, but it can be frustrating when you are trying to complete a scenario.
Luckily, we have a community that helps tackle some of these things. For example, the coupler patch I mentioned earlier, or Sound Enhancement packs available from TSC, or repaints from RWA. And ultimately, TS20xx gives you the ability to edit things to your own preferences, create/edit a scenario, or change something you don't like in a route.
Re: The Japanese way...I always reference Nintendo. For all the complaints about Nintendo. When they release something whether it be HW or SW, it works. And if an issue is found, it is addressed in a timely manner. BTW, DTG is a UK company not American (but point taken).
Been here for 10 years and this is how it is and always will be. On new releases they will make one or two patches then tend to ignore any more. The backlog of un-patched bugs is extremely long. Most people convert career scenarios that are buggy to standard and make the corrections and run them. I, myself have converted all career scenarios to standard. I have given up playing for points when an hour into a scenario you find a fault that will not allow completion. It is not for the points but for the experience.
Totally agree.
Let's see here. If the old electro-mech game started getting iffy in behavior you find a savant with a soldering gun and a spool of wire with electrical cleaner spray. Pay him a bunch of money to hunt the fault and fix it. This would be into the 60's
Fast forward to Atari type TV video games (Coleco etc) This was back when minimum wage was 1.40, games were a quarter, rates approached 20% for anything, more for credit cards etc. At some point the Atari Group burned out and started churning out games for 55 dollars retail each into the stores by the pack and cannot be bothered with testing as it costs too much then against lagging sales because the games were crap and getting crappier. You could not give away a BIN full of games yea high on a pallet in due time they dumped whole trainloads of Atari games into the desert.
Nintendo picked up the slack, in Japan they required the game products to be near perfect before it hits retail. Its part of their work ethic and National Pride to build a quality product. An boy how did they ever! Whoo hoo. America tried to compete but they were buried by nothing but Nintendo everywhere in every home. I eventually bought a N64 later in life that was like 200 dollars and a 300 dollar television set to drive it properly.
Computers and gaming was coming in then. No need to go over all that. Quality games generally. The rise of online gaming introduced disk keys, then authentication against the Server list against anti cheating etc. All that evolved over like 30 years to now. Then free to play came in within the last 10 years.
Patch patch patch patch and patch. Sometimes entire games and their parent companies died when they patched against the community's wants and wishes. Break a online game pernamently because the people got too good. A newbie had no chance. And so the video game online died. Sometimes violenty if they were really bad.
I bought a tank game called Soldner I think it was. Damn near 70 dollars back then. Put it on the computer which was a monster purpose built for gaming etc. This big huge hulking main battle tank tried to drive over a teeny tiny busy, hardly worth a second look. But it crunched, then got trapped on that little bush hardly bigger than a track pad. Tank proceeded to take massive damage over time and then brewed up, burned and then exploded.
I threw the game away. As it happened that was my absolute last retail product just as crappy as the ataris were. And about that time period everyone from stores quit selling video games retail and moved back to console which now is equal to some computers.
And the developers embraced the console because you cannot cheat very well with them like you can on a computer. Then there is the smart phone stuff. (Something I cannot want to do...)
The more things change the easier it stays the same.
After all that I was switching with a Salt Lake City Rio Grande Add on pack for SW1200. Break up two trains by freight car type. Easy enough. Here I am with 5 hazmat tank cars assigned to be at a particular slot in the street by a specific time and find out I was already 12 minutes late switching everything GENTLY.
The TS2022 game fined me -6000 points in the failure to be at that spot at that point in task management. And the Developers wonder why people dont buy their products sometimes. Im not about to be slamming bomb tank cars racing to be at that spot early to the ETA. I could... but after the Roper Yard experience (With bad couplers) I was not going to do that anymore.
A note to devs, leave the assigned appointments out of switching scenarios.
As a poster stated, I will learn specifically how to convert Career to standard and then make small changes here at home to make them work adequately. I should not have to do all that because the Developer failed to. But its a brave new world. Fix the game at home that you bought. What a world we live in.
After that -6000 episode, I figured this... I will buy DLC on sale and hope that they aint broke. No more retail for me. It might take me a few years waiting on sales, but thats ok.
BTW: I was an Amiga nut. Games and music software were always Top Drawer.
Copyright ©1987 Commodore-Amiga, Inc.
All rights reserved.
Release 1.3
1.> Check out https://youtu.be/fg8uKYLa1Aw
There was a older Amiga Machine which had Red Storm Rising installed. We spent hours on that one among other games of that early period. Those were when you kept a 2 gallon pot of veg soup and a coffee pot going, shutting back and forth to and from it as the battle progressed for days and nights.
Before that we had Avalon Hill. Table top gaming. Pa and I ran through Gettysburg in the US Civil War a million times. I was not very good at strategy and war in my games with him. But he was very good about it.
I still play through Gettysburg in map form from a 1998 Sierra Games CD, its been replaced three times as the physical Disk reached end of life, The first one lasted 22 years.
I dont regret my life around computers such as they are, but I do when the trucking industry started using them in 18 wheelers for enforcement purposes. Such as 55 mph speed limitors on our engines back then. They adopted that computer stuff with both hands and caused all sorts of problems that persist to this day.
At least I hope to be when I fire this thing up later this week. So I'll return to the OP's topic if I run into that issue.