Train Simulator is better than Train Sim World

[LarasAider]

I just want to show my appreciation for a game that I've spent many hours playing and why I think TS 2018 is better than TSW by a clear mile:

1. Better looking routes. TS 2018 has the worst outdated textures ever; however it's the fact you can see the textures and the entire route in glorious colour when driving that makes this game look better than TSW. The blurring, distortions and draw distance in TSW is so bad, that you can't appreciate any texture when driving because it's unrecognisable.

2. Sound in TS 2018 out performs TSW and it's made by DTG and third parties who specialise in recording actual train sounds for use in game. TSW sound when released was so quiet that one would mistake the game being developed exclusively for dogs and still the game sounds are quiet in certain areas.

3. Routes in TS 2018 are miles ahead of TSW in the literal sense. You can travel the full breadth of the English coast if you wish, But lets compare route distance to something you actually get in both games, You can travel from Paddington to Oxford or even Paddington to Plymouth with Just Trains add-on for TS 2018, furthest you can drive in TSW is Paddington - Reading. Why include an HST for a relatively short service, you hardly get chance to make use of it before having to ditch it and take the class 166 back to Paddington.

4. TS 2018 allows you to construct routes, modernise them and create your very own scenarios. TSW on the hand doesn't and comes with Pre-fixed routes.

5. TS 2018 has the Better HUD for driving trains; it is simple and informative. You can make it transparent so it blends over the train dash board or collapse it completely. TSW has screen clutter. It has a non collapsable driving hud that you can't make transparent, it has marker's in the middle of the screen, the annoying dot that won't go away. It has a hud at the top right and another hud top left and to top all off, this information is required so you can understand what's going on on the route because you can't see the track side signal due to bad draw distance... OUCH!

6. TS 2018 HUD is so good that it tells you the speed your train is doing, the speed limit of the track currently and a graph to show upcoming speed limits. Speed limits don't catch you by surprise unless someone didn't put the speed post in the right location. However do some simple editing of the route and it's all rectified. TSW has you guessing and crawling to the next speed post unless you know the route off-by-heart, speed changes are sparodic and it doesn't help when the pesky marker's are fighting for top priority.

7. TS2018 has the most extensive library of DLC than any other game I've come across. The effort developer's have gone through to bring us variation and authenticity is phenominal. TSW is still in its infancy and will be for years to come. With DTG not developing a route editor and having no third party support means not only are you not going to get the extensive library, but it probably won't feature the right level of authenticity too. Both which are needed for longevity of the game. TSW has the cab with many clickable buttons but so too does TS2018 if you get the loco's from 3rd parties or those DTG dlc's marked with Pro.

TS 2018 is a game I'll keep coming back to for years yet. It's not a perfect game with it's poor frame rate and outdated graphics but neither is TSW with it's poor framerate and unsuitable game engine. OK so you can get out of the cab and explore and become a "passenger" in TSW but all it is, is a glorified camera. You can't really become a passenger and you can't really explore. All your left with is basically driving trains in a poor version of Train Simulator. I expected more, you expected more from this new innovative game engine that could revolutionise Train Simulator, but all TSW became was TS2018 little shadow.

[Oz Gaming]

Agree 100%.............................TS2018 is far superior to TSW mainly because the Devs have no idea how to use the Unreal Game Software. The only way they can figure out how to optimize TSW is to dumb all the graphics down and reduce the scenery including removing static rolling stock which was originally on certain routes. Not to mention they can't seem to figure out how to model steam engines yet either.

[dmgibbs1997]

I could not agree more. TS routes have more mileage than TSW routes.

[kevin1957]

i have both.i wont get anything for tsw.tsw has potential,thats the best i can sayi also have world of subways a much older game where you can walk around the station and get on different trains.it also has a cab with no hud.its lacking in graphics though.tsw has a lot of work yet to be done.when dtg first mentioned their fishing game i posted they would be better off concentrating on ts20xx and make that the best it can be.i still hold that view.

[BeenTrain]

100% agree!

[Purno]

TSW has potential but still has some things that needed fixing. TS is in some aspects still better, and it shouldn't be.

TSW does have a lot less crashes than TS does, performance has been improved, and even TS lags at certain locations. Plus, people have been asking to be able to walk around, and TSW offers exactly that.

I don't think it's completely fair to say TS is better than TSW in all points. I'm actually enjoying TSW as much as I enjoy TS now, and I think it's just a matter of time before I really make the move to TSW. *IF* DTG addresses the issues TSW has.

[Buck_RJ]

I don't trust in DTG anymore.There are best alternatives for my money:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/750170/Diesel_Railcar_Simulator/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/722190/EEP_14/

[BeenTrain]

TWS looks good, but IMO it will take many years before it can compete content -wise with TS. TS at the other hand has so much potential that DTG, third party and players still invest in it. Knowing that it would be a good thing to improve TS further. Maybe it can be ported to 64 bit and maybe it might be worth it.

Just my 2ct

[Purno]

Why would you try to port and improve an old game engine when you could as well develop a new one, with less limitations and more flexibility?

[BeenTrain]

Originally posted by Purno:

Why would you try to port and improve an old game engine when you could as well develop a new one, with less limitations and more flexibility?

To make money?
It is still very viable.

A new one could go the same path in 5-10 years.

[Purno]

You could improve it but it'll always have its limitations. Building a new one might be a better long-term investment.

[BeenTrain]

If a new one was made and old content would be compatible then that's also a way to do it. TSW is not the succesor of TS.

If you would have to rewrite your book every time a new Word version comes out everyone would still use Word 95.

[JetWash]

Completely agree. I’ve a pretty extensive library of content for TS2018, and had bought all the TSW content upto and including West Somerset. In all honesty, I think TSW is a load of old pony and I won’t be buying anything else for it until there is fundamental change in DTGs approach. If there isn’t then so be it, bye bye TSW.

TS2018 is a wayyyyy better Sim and when you add on all the 3rd party stuff, it simply knocks the socks off TSW. It also looks pretty much as good on my machine as TSW, in certain ways it’s better. I run it at 3200x1800 with all the settings maxed out (except AA which murders the frame rate). In addition, and crucially, I use reshade.me. Run like that, there just isn’t enough of a difference to get excited about. Sure, it supposedly has all this simugraph business going on in the background but can you really tell the difference? I can’t. I’m not all that bothered that the brake pipe 14 wagons back on a freight train is swaying authentically. It doesn’t affect the gameplay, or my enjoyment of it one bit.

What I really find unforgivable though is that DTG have taken all the old bugs and mistakes from as far back as 2012 and put them front and centre in TSW. No tunnel occlusion, crap sound, bugs everywhere, stuttering and frame rate drops...all there in abundance. To cap it off they’ve employed the same model of not fixing what’s broken, and just moving onto the next thing. It’s like they’ve literally learnt nothing from all these years of producing Train Sims, and all the feedback they’ve had. How they had the sheer balls to release the game onto consoles with all the same bugs that plague the PC version is beyond me.

I think DTG should let the consoles have TSW and get a 64bit version of Train Sim out for the PC. I think everyone will be much happier that way.

[Stringbean]

Wow!!, so many still in support of TS18 and I totally agree. I also still much prefer TS18 any day over TSW. Yes, I do own TSW and purchased it just a few days after release. However, since, then, I've never purchased any DLC for TSW due to my lack of enthusiasm for it.

As such, I ununstalled TSW from my HD a very long time ago and obviously haven't touched it since. It now resides on the back burner of the Steam Cloud.

[Stringbean]

Originally posted by HighTower:

I think DTG should let the consoles have TSW and get a 64bit version of Train Sim out for the PC. I think everyone will be much happier that way.

+1 Agree.