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JACOB Mar 28, 2018 @ 5:05am
Armstrong Powerhouse Wherry Lines not working TS2018
I have installed the AP Wherry Lines package but it doesn't load.

Although I have contacted AP I've not recived any help on this matter.

I understand it is a 3rd party add-on and not necessarily a problems with Steam but I was wondering if anyone has had similar problems. I have all the extra packages advised by AP thus:-

GEML: London to Ipswitch
Isle of Whight
Portsmouth Direct
AP GEML Class 90
Just Trains Class 153 Advanced
Settle to Carlisle

My OS is Windows 10 64bit and Steam is located in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\

The Wherry Lines folder is installed in ......steamapps\common\Railworks\Assets\AP

I have done 3 clean re-installs of Steam and AP packages in both Program Files (x86) and Program Files to no avail. I've tried running without AVG firewall protection I have created special exemptions in firewalls. I have tried running with/without Administrator permissions.

I have spent days and days on this issue and have basically run out of ideas and patience. Consequently, any help on this matter would be much appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation.

Alan

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Growler Mar 28, 2018 @ 5:26am 
Hi Alan. What exactly do you mean by it doesn't load?

Do the scenarios show up in the various (career, standard, Quick Drive) drive menus? If yes, and then they're failing to play when selected, is the game crashing as they try to load? Or if not, are there any error messages at the end of the loading process - and if so, what are these?

More detail on what is precisely happening is needed, before anyone is really going to be able to help. But rest assured the route (non Steam version) does work fine with Window 10 (64bit), and if you do have all the pre-requesite DLC as you indicate, then in theory it should run ok. All the best. :)


Last edited by Growler; Mar 28, 2018 @ 5:27am
JACOB Mar 28, 2018 @ 6:13am 
Hi Growler,

Thanks for your quick response.

The Wherry Lines Norfolk to Great Yarmouth scenario is shown in the Select Route tab of the Quick Drive, Standard and Free Roam options.

The route is available only in the Quick Drive option. I can select the route OK, but none of the 'Wherry Lines' locomotives are available, although I can use the route with other locos/dmu's.

None of the Class 37 DRS, Class 156, 158 and 170 are available in the Select Locomotive option in either Quick Drive, Standard or Free Roam options.

The game doesn't crash and there are no error messages. Just no scenarios (apart from in Quick Drive) or locomotives are available.

Regards,

Alan
Growler Mar 28, 2018 @ 7:40am 
I'm not quite sure which version of the Wherry Lines you have (non Steam purchased directly from AP, or Steam version), although it sounds like it might be the original AP one. If so that version has no career scenarios, just 25 standard scenarios plus Quick Drive. The 25 standard scenarios are all for the Class 37, and no other locomotives. As for QD you should be able to choose any loco you wish from your game collection including the 37/4 DRS, 156, 158 & 170. The additional (separately sold) AP scenario packs for the route contain scenarios for the other locomotive types.

Note if this is the version of the route you have, you do need to download and installo the extra stock pack (from the product page on the AP website) to be able to run the included scenarios.

Alternatively if you have the Steam Store version of the AP route then this comes with 20 Career Scenarios, of which the first 15 all use the Class 37/4 as the driver engine, & the remaining 5 CS are for the Class 170. But there are no scenarios directly for any other locos. QD again should allow you to use any loco you like for the route.

Last edited by Growler; Mar 28, 2018 @ 7:44am
JACOB Mar 28, 2018 @ 9:40am 
Hi Growler,

Thanks for your help.

I have the AP version installed but I cannot access the 25 standard scenarios.

I cannot load the 37/DRS locos in QD. I note your comments on Class 156, 158 and 170, but they are listed in the Wherry Lines route scenario. I also have AP42 Wherry Lines scenario pack (2015) installed.
Speedy Mar 28, 2018 @ 9:50am 
May be another good option to create a thread over on ukts as well as ap normally appears on there
Growler Mar 28, 2018 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by flint0_10:
Hi Growler,

Thanks for your help.

I have the AP version installed but I cannot access the 25 standard scenarios.

I cannot load the 37/DRS locos in QD. I note your comments on Class 156, 158 and 170, but they are listed in the Wherry Lines route scenario. I also have AP42 Wherry Lines scenario pack (2015) installed.


Have you checked that the 25 scenario folders (and their respective files) are present within the Wherry Lines route folder* within the 'Contents' folder in your Railworks installation? Is it possible they're missing all together? That might explain their not showing in your game.

* The route folder is named "3a99321a-0bb2-47be-bcad-b20cfe48a945"


If so, all I can suggest is you re-download your route purchase from your AP account, just in case the original installer file was somehow corrupted. Then uninstall the route from your game (make sure it is fully removed (by manually checking the folders within your Railworks installation & deleting if necessary) and then try again reinstalling the route.

If your TS2018 install is otherwise working (for all other routes) it's highly unlikely to be anything to do with the game itself. You're the first player (I'm sorry that it's happened to you) that I've heard have such problems with this particular route. Hopefully it's just nothing more than bad luck with a dodgy download of the route. Finger's crossed.

Last edited by Growler; Mar 28, 2018 @ 11:31am
JACOB Mar 28, 2018 @ 12:04pm 
Hi Growler,

I have checked the Content folder and "3a99321a-0bb2-47be-bcad-b20cfe48a945" is present.

I cannot see any of the scenario listed 37/DRS locos i.e nos 419 APWL, 405 APWL etc referenced in any of the folders within the Assets folder......

I have just completed another clean install of TS2018 (and a clean boot) but still no joy. I will do another download from AP as you suggest. Probably leave it 'till tomorrow now though - my eyes are hurting.

Thanks for your support, will let you know the outcome tomorrow.

Regards,

Alan
DPSimulation Mar 28, 2018 @ 12:13pm 
If bought direct from AP, the 37's are not in the Wherry Lines assets folder. They are in RSC/SettleCarlisle.
Growler Mar 28, 2018 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by flint0_10:
Hi Growler,

I have checked the Content folder and "3a99321a-0bb2-47be-bcad-b20cfe48a945" is present.

I cannot see any of the scenario listed 37/DRS locos i.e nos 419 APWL, 405 APWL etc referenced in any of the folders within the Assets folder......

I have just completed another clean install of TS2018 (and a clean boot) but still no joy. I will do another download from AP as you suggest. Probably leave it 'till tomorrow now though - my eyes are hurting.

Thanks for your support, will let you know the outcome tomorrow.

Regards,

Alan

Hi Alan. As explained redownloading (reverfiying) TS2018 won't help. Because the AP route is nothing to do with the basic install of your game. If all other routes are working ok, it's just a problem with the Wherry Line route install. Therefore I'd strongly recommend you leave TS2018 itself alone, and rather focus on the AP route install. Best of luck with that tomorrow - I very much hope it works out for you. All the best.
Axe (Banned) Mar 28, 2018 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by DPSimulation:
If bought direct from AP, the 37's are not in the Wherry Lines assets folder. They are in RSC/SettleCarlisle.

Perhaps:

\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\SettleCarlisle\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class37\APWL\

https://s7.postimg.org/lfj5nnwtn/wlc37.png
DPSimulation Mar 28, 2018 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Axe:
Perhaps:

\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\SettleCarlisle\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class37\APWL\

https://s7.postimg.org/lfj5nnwtn/wlc37.png

I knew they were in there, I just couldn't post the exact path because I don't have the AP/website version.
Axe (Banned) Mar 28, 2018 @ 1:12pm 
Teamwork :steamhappy:
Phase3 Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:14pm 
This is my big worry: "I have done 3 clean re-installs of Steam and AP packages in both Program Files (x86) and Program Files to no avail. " I would imagine that there could be quite a bit of confusion going on if STEAM etc are possibly installed in 2 separate folders, both of which are not ideal for either Steam or TS 2018. Worth trying a clean install of Steam and TS, in a folder say called STEAM, eg C:\Steam?
Axe (Banned) Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:31pm 
Also now, remove any erroneous registry entries with Ccleaner. (free)

https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/download
skitz59 Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:31pm 
just to ask but did you download the extra stock file has well which is located on the wherry lines store page
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