Historical rail timetables

[Irascible_SAP]

Just learning how to build scenarios and on the subject of stop timings - are there any websites out there that show old rail timetables?

Right now I'm primarily looking for ECML in the late 1970's, but of course I will want to make scenarios for other routes in the future (primarily UK but some US too), so links to any and all sites that show information like this is more than welcome.

Thanks

[Cat]

Sorry to state the obvious but try google. I did so a while back and found a few old timetables otherwise ppl are selling old timetable books.

For BR 1970s timetables, look under fiction. (old joke).

[Irascible_SAP]

Originally posted by catlingard:

Sorry to state the obvious but try google. I did so a while back and found a few old timetables otherwise ppl are selling old timetable books.

For BR 1970s timetables, look under fiction. (old joke).

Do you really think I would have posted if I hadn't tried google already? Come on dude, I wouldnt have asked if I could find it on google myself.

However - if you personally can find 1970's Newcastle to York timetables by simply googling, then by all means, please share your godly google-fu search terms with me.

[Dhassell]

https://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/wtt/eregion/br31251-12-m-050569.php
https://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/wtt/eregion/br31251-5-e-040570.php
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BR-ER-WORKING-TIMETABLE-PASSENGER-DONCASTER-SHEFFIELD-LEEDS-YORK-SECT-J-1969-/361921007203?hash=item54442c4e63:g:MNEAAOSwA3dYe9Yu
Didn't take long to find these.

[Glenn]

You would be surprised at just how many people fail to look at the obvious first - thats why people like us (me) have got into the habit of mentioning it, unles the OP has already said ".... I have already looked on Google without any luck...."

[Irascible_SAP]

Yeah I failed to mention it in the OP, guess I walked into that one lol

[Irascible_SAP]

I also failed to mention in the OP that times are hard, I have literally zero spare money after my bills, so unfortunately my search is made more difficult because I cannot use timetables that have a price-tag on them.

[sparker]

http://timetableworld.com/

[dgre1950]

If yer spoke to me like you did to ..Catlingard...I,d only have two words to say to you,,,,the second one is OFF!

[Irascible_SAP]

Originally posted by sparker:

http://timetableworld.com/

Nice! lots of useful timetables in there - alas, nothing for the UK in the 70's, but still full of useful timetables nonetheless. Thanks :)

[Cat]

Originally posted by Irascible_SAP:

Originally posted by catlingard:

Sorry to state the obvious but try google. I did so a while back and found a few old timetables otherwise ppl are selling old timetable books.

For BR 1970s timetables, look under fiction. (old joke).

Do you really think I would have posted if I hadn't tried google already? Come on dude, I wouldnt have asked if I could find it on google myself.

However - if you personally can find 1970's Newcastle to York timetables by simply googling, then by all means, please share your godly google-fu search terms with me.

SAP very appropriate name.

[Irascible_SAP]

Originally posted by catlingard:

.... <deflectionist drivel>

*In James May's voice from the Grand Tour*

Does that mean there's no google-fu then?
Not even one of those cheeky little "let me google that for you" links?

Oh, ****!

[Cat]

Originally posted by Irascible_SAP:

Originally posted by catlingard:

.... <deflectionist drivel>

*In James May's voice from the Grand Tour*

Does that mean there's no google-fu then?
Not even one of those cheeky little "let me google that for you" links?

Oh, ****!

Listen DUDE. I offered advice in good faith, if you cannot take it in the way it was offered I suggest you don't ask for advice here. And don't bother trying to be a smart ar$e.

[Thogmar]

Originally posted by Irascible_SAP:

Originally posted by catlingard:

Sorry to state the obvious but try google. I did so a while back and found a few old timetables otherwise ppl are selling old timetable books.

For BR 1970s timetables, look under fiction. (old joke).

Do you really think I would have posted if I hadn't tried google already? Come on dude, I wouldnt have asked if I could find it on google myself.

However - if you personally can find 1970's Newcastle to York timetables by simply googling, then by all means, please share your godly google-fu search terms with me.

Then you simply haven't put in the time to either learn optimal search terms and routines, or haven't put in enough time - including simply trying again and again over the months as websites change.
I used to do online research for thousands of dollars for many clients, on subjects that I had no previous experience in, yet I usually found the information requested.
Multiple search engines, follow ups on related terms, sending emails to experts found in forums, visiting forums and making inquiries, sending PHYSICAL letters, or making phone calls, visiting libraries and museums for research and also using their experts, on and on.
Simply saying: "I already tried Google" is FAR, FAR from the necessary effort or ultimate solution.
And it's all FREE for the most part, only requiring effort.

[Irascible_SAP]

Originally posted by Thogmar:

Then you simply haven't put in the time to either learn optimal search terms and routines, or haven't put in enough time - including simply trying again and again over the months as websites change.
I used to do online research for thousands of dollars for many clients, on subjects that I had no previous experience in, yet I usually found the information requested.
Multiple search engines, follow ups on related terms, sending emails to experts found in forums, visiting forums and making inquiries, sending PHYSICAL letters, or making phone calls, visiting libraries and museums for research and also using their experts, on and on.
Simply saying: "I already tried Google" is FAR, FAR from the necessary effort or ultimate solution.
And it's all FREE for the most part, only requiring effort.

Lets address this - part of my OP contains this snippet:

Originally posted by Irascible_SAP:

Right now I'm primarily looking for ECML in the late 1970's...

A sentence that informs you that I am actively making an effort to find information myself. As a researcher - you tell me that

Originally posted by Thogmar:

visiting forums and making inquiries

is a good practice as part of a seach and here I am, widening my own, active search, by making enquiries on a forum.. and you are on my back about it...

So I'm confused...

What exactly is your point?


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Originally posted by catlingard:

Listen DUDE. I offered advice in good faith, if you cannot take it in the way it was offered I suggest you don't ask for advice here. And don't bother trying to be a smart ar$e.

My bad - I thought we were on the same wavelength, I thought we were just having a bit of banter.