AP Wherry Lines Stuffed. I May Need to Get the Steam Version

[Frankenstein]

I have the AP Wherry Lines and after a new install of TS this DLC it just doesnt work anymore, with problems with the class 37 models (37405, 37419, 37422 & 37425) showing in the scenarios. In fact none of the models appear.

I have all the required DLC and after 3 new TS installs and hours of checking files and comparing them with a TS install I have with the AP Wherry Lines which DOES work, I have given up and may considering getting the WL DLC from steam in a sale as its my last hope off getting to play the scenarios. But its supposed to be the same set of files but at least Id get the chance to refund it.

I have the the AP scenario packs too but god only knows when Ill get to enjoy them.

Ive searched the forums but some just say it suddenly started working for them and a google search throws up nothing worthy.

I have the latest Wherry Lines Route Pack 1.3.
I have the extra stock too.
I have all the required 3rd party DLC.

Can anyone come up with any info which may help? Otherwise Ill never get to use this DLC other than the one (mixed) install where it does work.

[Speedy]

Just a thought as ihave had this problem in the past before with a scenario pack

I am sure you have tried this but it is worth a shot. When you download the pack install it to a empty folder

I.e. Create a new folder on your desktop and install the packs to that then manually copy over geo files then drag and drop that folder into your raikworks folder

[griffin115]

In your DRS-405/Engine directory, you are missing the class37.GeoPcDx file. As part of the Wherry Lines installation, this should have been copied from one of the class37 directories that came with the Settle to Carlisle DLC. This would explain why you are only seeing the couplings but does not explain why RW_Tools thinks the bin file is missing.

[Frankenstein]

Originally posted by Speedbird1:

Just a thought as ihave had this problem in the past before with a scenario pack

I am sure you have tried this but it is worth a shot. When you download the pack install it to a empty folder

I.e. Create a new folder on your desktop and install the packs to that then manually copy over geo files then drag and drop that folder into your raikworks folder

I have chap. I have said I have done this in my looong post above along with making my own .rwp file from the extracted exe :)

[Frankenstein]

Originally posted by griffin115:

In your DRS-405/Engine directory, you are missing the class37.GeoPcDx file. As part of the Wherry Lines installation, this should have been copied from one of the class37 directories that came with the Settle to Carlisle DLC. This would explain why you are only seeing the couplings but does not explain why RW_Tools thinks the bin file is missing.

I looked into this a few days ago and nothing, from the Wherry Lines install wether it was the install itself or the extra stock has the class37.GeoPcDx file there. Or is it supposed to be copied there via the install procedure?

Ive already tried copying over the class37.GeoPcDx from the RED folder to no avail.

But, read on.

I have just installed the Wherry Lines 1.3 and the Extra Stock via the official .exes and I can say it does not add (in any manner) the class37.GeoPcDx file to the DRS-405/Engine or any of the other DRS/4s

Can you Mr Griffen confirm that you (or any Wherry Line owners) has the class37.GeoPcDx file in that folder that has definately been installed from the official WL and Extra pack downloads?

A few posts ago Growler said something that made me think so I manually added the class37.GeoPcDx file from the RED folder. So I did then, and also have just done now and it still does not add the 'skin'

The same problem occurs.No Class 37 skin.

By the way where are you seeing that I am missing a bin file?

Im asking because like I said the 2 RW tools pics only depict the scenarios in the route and the installed route assets (do they not?) I cant see in retrospect where I have shown anything that shows ANY missing filles, although I have asked (previously) ;)

It is still not clear to me wether I have used RW Tools correctly and wether I have even done the correct procedure to actually SHOW missing files :/

Edit. All adding the class37.GeoPcDx file to the DRS/4/ Engine folders (and other 37 engine folders that didnt have it in) was to give a pic to the listing in the consist builder and allow that engine to be enabled for consists which could be saved and played.

[rickyt7808]

Interesting, just had a look at a QD consist, using RW Tools, in the PreLoad folder in Wherry Lines and the Class 37 .xml file is from the S & C referencing the following folder: RailVehicles\Diesel\Class37\APWL\DRS-405\Engine. There are no GeoPcDx files for the Class 37 in my Wherry Lines RailVehicles folder.

[Frankenstein]

Originally posted by kjwcw:

Interesting, just had a look at a QD consist, using RW Tools, in the PreLoad folder in Wherry Lines and the Class 37 .xml file is from the S & C referencing the following folder: RailVehicles\Diesel\Class37\APWL\DRS-405\Engine. There are no GeoPcDx files for the Class 37 in my Wherry Lines RailVehicles folder.

kjwcw, you are clearly way above my use and understanding of RW Tools and the files as they pertain so thanks for your input :)

Are there any references in the;

\Steam\SteamApps\common\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\SettleCarlisle\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class37\APWL\DRS-405\Engine, folder where I believe the AP extra stock files reside, including the supposed class37.GeoPcDx file?

Or is this what you said? Sorry if I am misunderstanding :)

[Frankenstein]

Originally posted by Growler:

From Tezza's RW_Tools screenshot of missing assets, as griffin has already suggested, it simply looks like a number of key prerequisite DLC add-ons are missing from his game. i.e. AP's GEML Class 90, Settle-Carlisle route, and JT's Class 153 Advanced loco. That exlains all bar two of the listed missing assets. I suspect the remaining couple are due to an incomplete install of AP's extra assets for the route and/or other related key required AP assets.

So to blame AP isn't really fair. If all the listed requirments are in place in one's game the route should work fine, no worries. Which is the case for the vast majority of customers; I haven't heard of any real complaints previously over troubles with the Wherry Lines route. All the best.

Yes. The route should work fine, but doesnt.

Which missing assets or prerequisites were/are you referring to Growler?

Can I have your opinion based on my posts since your post here please? This customer has done all he can... but still sad to admit hes apparently the first to have troubles with the Wherry Lines Route :/

Do you see any file ommisions or anomalies in my folders?

Can I add more screenshots which would help the situation perhaps especially any RW Tools pics as Im still unsure as to where Im supposed to takes pics of pages with missing assets etc.

I think I have since proved (or perhaps not hopefully ) I have no missing assets but Im still open to suggestions as its clear I am no expert as Im still unable to get the Class 37 to appear cheers.

So something is still wrong

[griffin115]

Hi Texxa

I misunderstood your second screenshot near the top of this thread. To find out if any files are missing:
1. Load RW_Tools
2. Select Route Building Tools/Check Routes or Scenarios
3. Highlight the Wherry Lines route
4. Select the List Stock used by all scenarios button
(I presume this is where you took your screenshot)
5. Select the Check for Missing stock button

This will not show all missing files but will show missing components. It's a quick way to check that the prequisites and the route rail vehicles are present.

To find any missing files, go back to step 4, highlight the class 37 bin files and then select the Check selected stock for missing files button.

(Don't highlight all the stock - it will report any files that are packaged inside 'ap' files such as the class 90 as missing)

[Frankenstein]

OK will do Mr Griffin. Its late here in the UK at present so will get back tomorrow (or later today) when sleep, food and drink has been consumed and my eyes have stopped spinning, thanks :)

[rickyt7808]

Hi Tezza,

Yes I have the class37.GeoPcDx file inside the \Steam\SteamApps\common\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\SettleCarlisle\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class37\APWL\DRS-405\Engine, folder. That isn't where the extra stock resides though. The extra stock is installed into various locations but I don't think is relevant as to why the class37.GeoPcDx file is not inside the DRS-405\Engine folder.

I'm not sure how the GeoPcDx file is moved into the engine folder but I think there must be a script running during the installation which copies it over from one of the original class 37s. If you just manually install the Wherry Lines the GeoPcDx file will not be installed as it isn't included in the download.

Have you copied and pasted the GeoPcDx file from one of the other class 37 Engine folders into \Steam\SteamApps\common\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\SettleCarlisle\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class37\APW\DRS-405\Engine folder?

Hope this helps rather than causes any extra confusion.

[Frankenstein]

Hi kjwcw.

Thanks for that info. I have installed the route and extras again via the proper install .exes and it still didnt deposit the GeoPcDx file, sadly. Also I have manually added it numerous times from the Red folder and still it fails to work.

Then I added the file from a TS install where the file resides in all 4x DRS\4 folders and the route DOES work, into the corresponding 4 folders and still nothing.

Maybe Ill just stick with the QDs as they are working fine until I get resolution.

Ill just check griffin115s advice with RW tools first.

[Frankenstein]

Hi griffin115.

In my previous pic as you mention I did fail to see the check missing stock button.

But I have followed your instructions above if you could look please.


Missing stock pic

http://s24.postimg.org/5fub03ag5/01_RWtoolscheckmissingstock.jpg


Class 37 Bin files check

http://s24.postimg.org/n75xejput/02_RWtoolsc37binfilescheck.jpg

Thanks for that griffin115. Is there anything further I can do to move forward?

[Phase3]

Tazza
Another twist - I dl a workshop scenario the other day and it called for the Class 37 from Wherry Lines. The cab interior was fine but there were NO outside textures, The GeoPcdx files were present, but I had to swap the loco with RW_Tools to get the exterior to show. Its a mystery.

[Frankenstein]

Thanks for the info Phase3.

Im not experienced enough to pull anything from that but its certainly highlights there appears to be some issues, at least for some.

Do you mean you just swapped to a different class 37 to get the exterior to show?

[griffin115]

Hi Tezza

If RW_Tools showed no missing files, then all I can suggest is run the missing files process on the class 37s in the Settle to Carlisle route to see if there are any isssues there.

If no errors are reported, then it might be a permissions issue. I'd raise a help call with Armstrong Powerhouse to seek their advice.