Class 43 (MTU)/Mk3 Enhancement Pack

[rickyt7808]

New AP enhancement pack released today. http://www.armstrongpowerhouse.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=168. Special introductory price for existing MTU engine pack or Mk3 coach sound pack owners.

[DanBob210]

Looks excellent! I think I'm buying myself a birthday present...

[Speedy]

Waiting for master key simulations new hst the cab is exactly the same in this enhancement pack what is needed more is a new cab if I am honest

[DanBob210]

Originally posted by ✈Cleared_to_land✈:

Waiting for master key simulations new hst the cab is exactly the same in this enhancement pack what is needed more is a new cab if I am honest

Let's face it, AP did what they could, but the HST is over 10 years old, I too am eagerly awaiting this new HST, AP have provided a reasonable stopgap at least!

[dutch]

Gonna not get this pack. Just a combination of two packs and a few other things thrown in. One of the only things I like about it is the reskins.

[Merlin]

I'm just wondering why this extra effort with the MTU sounds was not put into the pro pack in the first place. Unless it has always been the plan to leave some wiggle room so that they could be tweaked and sold again in a differant pack at a later date.

After all the pro packs sale pitch was pretty much these sounds were done on the real trains with pro sound recording gear and are the best sounds you can get. But yet we now seeing better than pro packs.

[DanBob210]

Originally posted by Merlin:

I'm just wondering why this extra effort with the MTU sounds was not put into the pro pack in the first place. Unless it has always been the plan to leave some wiggle room so that they could be tweaked and sold again in a differant pack at a later date.

After all the pro packs sale pitch was pretty much these sounds were done on the real trains with pro sound recording gear and are the best sounds you can get. But yet we now seeing better than pro packs.

The enhancement packs are a new thing that AP are doing, and also the MTU pack was made some time ago (i believe), and AP probably didn'd have the experience back then.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by DanBob210:

Originally posted by Merlin:

I'm just wondering why this extra effort with the MTU sounds was not put into the pro pack in the first place. Unless it has always been the plan to leave some wiggle room so that they could be tweaked and sold again in a differant pack at a later date.

After all the pro packs sale pitch was pretty much these sounds were done on the real trains with pro sound recording gear and are the best sounds you can get. But yet we now seeing better than pro packs.

The enhancement packs are a new thing that AP are doing, and also the MTU pack was made some time ago (i believe), and AP probably didn'd have the experience back then.

Bob not being funny but read the description of the other 2 hst sounds packs

Both them claim to be recorded from real working units
Both them promote the two tone horn

The only difference this pack has is it comes with the mk3 coach pack
And apt although not a fully function apt as in real life

The hst pack that's just been created also claimed to have real working recordings two tone horn etc etc

So what merlin says is correct this pack has just really had a little touch up bundled together with the coach pack and released as a enhancement pack

[DanBob210]

Originally posted by ✈Cleared_to_land✈:

Originally posted by DanBob210:

The enhancement packs are a new thing that AP are doing, and also the MTU pack was made some time ago (i believe), and AP probably didn'd have the experience back then.

Bob not being funny but read the description of the other 2 hst sounds packs

Both them claim to be recorded from real working units
Both them promote the two tone horn

The only difference this pack has is it comes with the mk3 coach pack
And apt although not a fully function apt as in real life

The hst pack that's just been created also claimed to have real working recordings two tone horn etc etc

So what merlin says is correct this pack has just really had a little touch up bundled together with the coach pack and released as a enhancement pack

To some extent, yes - I appreciate what's said. However, the pro packs did not claim to have 13 liveries, (admittedly partial) ATP, ETS, start up procedure and properly working headlights. I think it is fair enough that AP release this as it's 2 existing packs of £5 and more for £10, but if you disagree, just don't buy it :)

[Speedy]

You can't sell a sound pack enhancement pack whatever there calling them these days on how many liverys are bundled as these cannot be sold for money. Reskinners do wonders on ukts so that argument does not fall on the subject in hand

Ets on off don't matter same world if I turn the engine on or off the train will move if it's on and won't when it's off

Dsd more annoying than anything

Working headlights. All trains come with working headlights

So for 9,99 I am getting what 5 features for £2 each. Think I will leave my money where it is and get the master key simulations products

[DanBob210]

Originally posted by ✈Cleared_to_land✈:

You can't sell a sound pack enhancement pack whatever there calling them these days on how many liverys are bundled as these cannot be sold for money. Reskinners do wonders on ukts so that argument does not fall on the subject in hand

Ets on off don't matter same world if I turn the engine on or off the train will move if it's on and won't when it's off

Dsd more annoying than anything

Working headlights. All trains come with working headlights

So for 9,99 I am getting what 5 features for £2 each. Think I will leave my money where it is and get the master key simulations products

Fair enough - I'm looking forward to seeing what master key can do!

[Speedy]

Originally posted by DanBob210:

Originally posted by ✈Cleared_to_land✈:

You can't sell a sound pack enhancement pack whatever there calling them these days on how many liverys are bundled as these cannot be sold for money. Reskinners do wonders on ukts so that argument does not fall on the subject in hand

Ets on off don't matter same world if I turn the engine on or off the train will move if it's on and won't when it's off

Dsd more annoying than anything

Working headlights. All trains come with working headlights

So for 9,99 I am getting what 5 features for £2 each. Think I will leave my money where it is and get the master key simulations products

Fair enough - I'm looking forward to seeing what master key can do!

I second that bob as I suspect many others do. Hope you don't think was having a rant at you far from it

I just agreeing with merlins and pikachu points that's all

[AshHill07]

To be honest, the headlights on DTG's MTU Class 43's have always been incorrect ... I even asked DTG directly when the Bristol - Cardiff route was coming out "PLEASE! Just get the headlights right this time!". They said they would ... they lied ...

To be honest, this and the FGW Coach liveries are just a few things on the DTG HST's that annoyed me to no end ... At least the AP pack fixed those. Oh and that and now Oovee's buggy buffered HSTs ...

I guess having not having purchased the MTU pack previously also helped.