ARK: Survival Ascended

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retsam1 Feb 23, 2024 @ 6:45pm
Make your pricing predictions for the Frontier Pack
Given the most recent news about the dino and its features that will be debuted in the Frontier Pack a long with the train related engrams and the skins, what now do you think will be the price point for it?

Controversial maybe but Im predicting in the $25-$35 range.

Edit: Also for reference (Thanks Hermit!) here is a post by Jeremy Steiglitz on Micro transactions that he emphatically made against them and assurances for ASE that they'd not do it:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/613957600545398663/#c613957600545407965

Originally posted by Jeremy Drake Stieglitz:
There will never, ever be any monetization of this game whatsoever other than possible entirely new Expansion ARK's (whole new worlds as expansion pack).

There will never be any pay items, not even cosmetics -- there WILL be tons of cosmetic "item skins" but they will all be earnable in-game rewards and time-limited free events to encourage gameplay, nothing ever to spend any $$$ on.

The term Loot Crate simply was employed to denote high-value item cache ;)

To be clear, we at Studio Wildcard are very much against any in-game monetization whatsoever. We've seen it distort too many otherwise good games.


So what prices do folks think they're going to do for this pack, being the first of many yet to come?
Last edited by retsam1; Feb 24, 2024 @ 1:22pm
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Ichbin Feb 23, 2024 @ 7:00pm 
I've always thought it would be 14.99, from the beginning. It may be 19.99, to make daddy Shi happy.
I really don't think it would be any higher than that. This aint Blizzard.
retsam1 Feb 23, 2024 @ 7:22pm 
Originally posted by Ichbin:
I've always thought it would be 14.99, from the beginning. It may be 19.99, to make daddy Shi happy.
I really don't think it would be any higher than that. This aint Blizzard.

Keep in mind that financially Blizzard's not in as precarious a situation as Snail Games is either though.
If it's over $10 it's an outright scam, and even then that's probably too expensive and should be around $5 considering back in ASE we got an entire map, several unique creatures, various new mechanics, and way more items for only $20.
Last edited by Scanova the Carnotaurus; Feb 23, 2024 @ 7:34pm
Smoka95 Feb 23, 2024 @ 7:51pm 
Originally posted by Ichbin:
I've always thought it would be 14.99, from the beginning. It may be 19.99, to make daddy Shi happy.
I really don't think it would be any higher than that. This aint Blizzard.
They dropped this turd in EA for 45 despite that fact they are not blizzard.

45$ EA and every DLC map would have 20$ DLC expansion pack which would be a creature/engram.
Where is the value?

Imo its more realistic 15-20 range simply because they would want to get more people to buy it.
If they go 25-35 there are not alot of people who would put out with this especially when that would be every dlc map.
Obviously the profit per unit sold would be higher, but I don't see them doing something this tone-deaf business wise, that would piss the remaining community even more.
Even if it works in the short term works.

TLDR:
We were supposed not to be charged for the DLC maps, but they are doing exactly that and if they are going to charge the same amount as ASE DLC map for just creatures and engrams is just dystopian.
Last edited by Smoka95; Feb 23, 2024 @ 7:52pm
retsam1 Feb 23, 2024 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by Scanova the Carnotaurus:
If it's over $10 it's an outright scam.

Do you honestly think, given the very small number of people that are ever dwindling that still play are going to be able to be enough numbers of folks paying 10 bucks per person per pack to help give them enough of a revenue stream to keep them sustainable though until the next pack is released?

Remember they still have outstanding loans and the sales from Ascended werent very good. Also remember that Snail Games has stated in their quarterly reports that Ark accounts for 80-90% of their revenue but that they have 20+ projects they've supported over the years including a now failed EV car company that went under in October.

So in the context of such things, I'd have to say it doesnt seem likely an under 10 price is fiscally feasible for them.
retsam1 Feb 23, 2024 @ 8:02pm 
Originally posted by smokleto_95:
We were supposed not to be charged for the DLC maps, but they are doing exactly that and if they are going to charge the same amount as ASE DLC map for just creatures and engrams is just dystopian.

This was likely the more true intent of the misdirection with the initial marketing last spring.
Last edited by retsam1; Feb 23, 2024 @ 8:02pm
Originally posted by retsam1:
Originally posted by Scanova the Carnotaurus:
If it's over $10 it's an outright scam.

Do you honestly think, given the very small number of people that are ever dwindling that still play are going to be able to be enough numbers of folks paying 10 bucks per person per pack to help give them enough of a revenue stream to keep them sustainable though until the next pack is released?

Remember they still have outstanding loans and the sales from Ascended werent very good. Also remember that Snail Games has stated in their quarterly reports that Ark accounts for 80-90% of their revenue but that they have 20+ projects they've supported over the years including a now failed EV car company that went under in October.

So in the context of such things, I'd have to say it doesnt seem likely an under 10 price is fiscally feasible for them.

I mean true but still a scam. Them being a horrible company that's dying from their own mistakes isn't our issue. We're not responsible for their failures. A product not worth the price is a product not worth the price.
Last edited by Scanova the Carnotaurus; Feb 23, 2024 @ 8:50pm
nima Feb 23, 2024 @ 8:59pm 
I laugh when the DLC can be pre-ordered before the map is finished and costs 50 euros...
Dradiin Feb 24, 2024 @ 12:04am 
$29.99

Wont matter to me if they fix all the technical issues (not like they could with ASE) Oasissaur is a blatant Pay To Win scheme, and i honestly do not want to contribute to that mentality. I have avoided all games that go this route, i won't make an exception for ASA.

I honestly hope others follow suit.
Want To Tree Feb 24, 2024 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by Ichbin:
I've always thought it would be 14.99, from the beginning. It may be 19.99

14.99, because:

Originally posted by smokleto_95:
We were supposed not to be charged for the DLC maps, but they are doing exactly that and if they are going to charge the same amount as ASE DLC map for just creatures and engrams is just dystopian.

This makes sense and so true. I can totally expect that with each previously paid for DLC that they will do a new p2w drop at slightly lower than the cost of the original DLC.

Depends on how the sales of it go too I guess, else they will just go full 19.99.
brettjones21 Feb 24, 2024 @ 4:59am 
I predict. It will be £24.99 per pack, probably six-eight packs. I’d imagine cosmetic bundles for 7.99 each, dozens of them.
retsam1 Feb 24, 2024 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:
This post aged well...

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/613957600545398663/#c613957600545407965

Thank you for that Hermit. I'd rememembered him saying it but had not been able to find it(granted I didnt comb posts has hard as I could the last time I tried to look. Saved it now though and recommend others do so too.

Im going to edit my initial post to include it and quote the whole of it as well for reference.

Thanks again on that Hermit!
Gizmo Feb 24, 2024 @ 11:14pm 
Funny part is wouldnt that go to mods too cause the mods are ingame. Not against others not getting paid for hard work etc, but it seems they back pedaled there too if thats case.
retsam1 Feb 24, 2024 @ 11:32pm 
Originally posted by Techno:
Funny part is wouldnt that go to mods too cause the mods are ingame. Not against others not getting paid for hard work etc, but it seems they back pedaled there too if thats case.

Correct. Also for the modders, they only receive 50% of the revenue. Pretty low when you consider the effort and if their own designs are not derivative.
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