How come you can't buy firecrackers anymore ??

[Floid]

You used to be able to buy firecrackers from vendors. But I visited every one in the slums and none of them are selling firecrackers anymore, what gives ?

And crafting them is a no go, as the stuff needed to make them isn't that plentiful, and is better used on other crafting recipes.

[No.]

It was par of a balance update; they also removed ammo, molotovs, medkits and such from stores.

Materials might seem scarce at the start, but by the end of the game you'll have enough to craft anything and everything you want. That happens in all aspects of the game; kind of difficult at the start, then it just gets easier and easier. Difficulty doesn't scale up as you get more powerful.

[Floid]

Oh I see. Well I dunno, because I can still buy ammo, but yeah, medkits are gone too. Tho medkits are fine I can craft them easy, the parts for them a pretty plentiful, same with molotovs. But firecrackers, well plastic is reasonably ok to find, but I have like 3 "Household supplies" and they seem to be very rare.

Tried looking in the obvious places like houses and buildings, but I can't seem to find that much of them.

[No.]

Don't forget to visit the local quartermasters each day. They give you free materials.

household supplies indeed spawn inside of houses, but it's a matter of luck. Check fridges and the brown, tall thingies.

[Floid]

Originally posted by No:

Don't forget to visit the local quartermasters each day. They give you free materials.

household supplies indeed spawn inside of houses, but it's a matter of luck. Check fridges and the brown, tall thingies.

Ok, thx for reply :) - I'll have a look around. Maybe I just need to figure out good farming run for places that often spawn them.

[OJ191]

Originally posted by No:

It was par of a balance update; they also removed ammo, molotovs, medkits and such from stores.

Materials might seem scarce at the start, but by the end of the game you'll have enough to craft anything and everything you want. That happens in all aspects of the game; kind of difficult at the start, then it just gets easier and easier. Difficulty doesn't scale up as you get more powerful.

ammo is still there on normal mode

[Simi350]

Firecrackers are made from items similar from which are made flares. Flares have been nerfed in last patch.

[No.]

Didn't know about ammo. Jumped into Hard as soon as the patch was online, and never went back. Thought it was part of the general balance patch, and not a difficulty tweak.

Thanks for the correction. (:

[Joe Cool]

Gonna just go ahead and necro this thread instead of starting a new one.

I'm on a normal difficulty game and firecrackers (or the materials to make them) are insanely rare. It wouldn't be so bad except that so much of the gameplay requires you to be able to divert attention away from yourself (or more importantly objects you need to get/activate) and literally the ONLY way to do that is with firecrackers.

Starting to become extremely annoying.

[Lar Dass]

What?? Just craft firecrackers and medkits. As for ammo check the shops but make sure you have guns equiped on you

[KromeHWI]

i dont think stores sell ammo on hard mode (ive never seen it anyway), but they do on nightmare if your legend level is high enough... honestly by ng+ i have so many ingredients i never have to worry about it, but early game its a little trickier. once you get camo you really dont need firecrackers anymore anyway (or at least not many of them).

[Floid]

Late game FC's aren't really needed too much. But it is still baffling that the changes were made, that effectively made FC's extinct in shops and the resources needed to make them more rare. Making it so you kinda need to farm the resources to make them. Which seems weird to have to do for an item that isn't even that strong. I mean hell, it's easier to bulk up on the stuff you need to make grens and mollys than FC's lol.

[DedZedNub]

Here's my suggestion. Firecrackers are usually limited by the plastic. Well, if you do an occasional run for it, you'll be okay.

Chests, Baskets, and Car Trunks:

Plastic will become increasingly available in chests, car trunks, baskets, etc. They don't have to be the locked ones either, though those will sometimes have some also. It pays to go thru buildings and open up everything. Since most of this is above the ground level, you don't have to worry about too many zombies to fight either. If you hear a random explosion then know that the Virals, running dodgy guys, will come to your area no matter where the explosion was and try and locate you. They can climb, dodge, juke and are faster at everything. But nothing that kicks and a few quicker weapons can't handle. Special moves especially like Stomp help when they climb up to you, so get that, and finish them as they climb up to you, provided you aren't surrounded.

AKA, yes, you have to do scavenging runs or make grabbing stuff a priority sometimes. Different zones have different innate difficulty and that also can help boost getting better stuff, including ingredients. I think I was probably Survivor Level 4 or so before I started getting the better of the scavenging, but I scavenge a lot and most of the time. This does mean I get into bad situations more, as by Surv Lvl 7 or so, the zombies start working better as a group and virals seem to spawn more often as part of them, which also makes it more exciting.

Various locales seem to have a tendency towards certain items. There is a Dying Light Wikia which categorizes, I believe, what sort of thing you might more likely find them in, though there is some random factors involved.

Buy Plastic from the Shops and Vendors:

It's 20 bucks. You'll make that much picking up 2 junk pieces of pipe or planks, so no sweat to just pay and get some plastic.

Quartermasters

They often provide you with plastic, but it isn't more usually than 1 piece every few days.

Skills

There is a skill, I think in the Survival Branch, that will allow you to make 8 Firecrackers instead of 5 from each crafting attempt. It helps.

Balance Issue

My own view is that the game as you level up makes scavenging a bit easier with more of the better ingredients. But, if you don't have to loot, life gets pretty easy most of the time on Normal. There are a lot of weird balance issues in Dying Light, they work well as a mix, but few are logical.

Special moves kill too easily, while good weapons may take several swipes, maybe 5 to kill a zombie. Firecrackers are very versatile. They work on Volatiles, supposedly, to distract them even during a chase, if that is true that's powerful. They also ignite oil slicks and maybe even someone you put flammable liquid on by throwing it at them -- that I have to doublecheck.

Point is, they are very useful in every situation. Paramount, no. But universally useful to regain control of some situations going downhill fast.