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DaiMneNebo Dec 1, 2024 @ 5:11am
PoE 2 is worth to buy if i a totally newbie?
I never played in original poe and I want to know if it is worth buying poe 2? Because I heard that the first part was too hardcore and with a lot of grinding and that the second part will be more favorable to newbies. Is this true?
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Lyc Dec 1, 2024 @ 5:14am 
06.12. will only be EA of poe2.
Full release sometime next year will be free, so you could just check it out then.

People that call poe1 too hard etc are usually only those that only know braindead trash like D4 and are not used to actually having to read a skill to understand it
Last edited by Lyc; Dec 1, 2024 @ 5:14am
PoE2 will be better for a beginner to learn the basics of the PoE Universe so i would recommend to buy it
[STD]Random Lead Dec 1, 2024 @ 7:06am 
You dont need to BUY it. Just wait a year it will be free.
😎Astran😾 Dec 1, 2024 @ 7:40am 
PoE1 isn't for everyone, it took me four tries to start playing it and then I've dumped it after just couple seasons. The end-game is too challenging and the garbage management simulator is too annoying.

If the initial pack package cost seems valuable to you then you should wait for F2P release to avoid disappointment and sunk cost fallacy ("I've paid for it, cannot refund, it must be good then") :lunar2019scowlingpig:
Sunnis Dec 1, 2024 @ 1:19pm 
the buy part is only if u wanna support GGG it will be free later when full release happens
joebyronlee Dec 1, 2024 @ 5:30pm 
My Advice, Wait for the game to come out.. EA will be riddled with bugs and crashes and that is okay, I've been reading and watching clips where its stated that it will be easier to hop on PoE2 as opposed to PoE mainly due to either a lot or reading or to difficult to understand etc, ohh and 3rd party systems...

The amount of times I hear "Get a guide" or download this or use that etc, It helps but is not required I'm currently on my very first PT blind and I'm enjoying the hell outta this game even with the crashes...

The new Poe is just about to drop, download the first, get a feel and if you feel it may work for you then by all means... at the end of the day its your decision... and I'm just a Rando on the net ...
Kydyrium Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Lyc:
braindead trash
LOL
ScandiDiver Dec 2, 2024 @ 8:07pm 
Originally posted by Lyc:

People that call poe1 too hard etc are usually only those that only know braindead trash like D4 and are not used to actually having to read a skill to understand it

This is one of the most braindead, delusional narcissistic and obnoxious statements i have read in a long time.

Myself dislike D3/D4 because it´s to simple and i used to love PoE1 back in the day when it was still miles more complicated and advanced then D3/D4, but have grown tired over the years because toooo much ♥♥♥♥ been added. More and more and more and more was added until it reached a point where it was just too much.

But i am getting back into PoE now when PoE2 releases since it looks more similar to PoE1 back in the days. MUCH more advanced and complicated then D3/D4.

I know countless of people with same experience as me. Actually most people i know, read or heard about got tired of PoE1 due to this reason.
ScandiDiver Dec 2, 2024 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by LikSir:
I never played in original poe and I want to know if it is worth buying poe 2? Because I heard that the first part was too hardcore and with a lot of grinding and that the second part will be more favorable to newbies. Is this true?

My perspective on this:

PoE1 was very advanced even back in the earlier years compared to most if not all arpgs, D3/D4 don´t come close to how advanced even early years PoE1 used to be. But it was still plausable as a casual gamer with a life outside of gaming to make your own builds and clear most of the content with reasonable efficiency, if you took a little bit extra time to plan your builds the week before a seasonal release.

But they just kept adding more and more and more stuff into the game, making it both harder and more complicated and with the years turning it so complicated and hard i just gave up as a casual gamer that like to do my own builds. I think this is what people refeer to with too hardcore.

PoE2 on early access release are more similar where PoE1 was years ago. PoE2 have made me get back my interest for PoE and i am getting back into PoE again now.
jvjd Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:19pm 
Rather buy Baldur Gate 3 - its cheaper than the base poe 2 pack.
Many-Named Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by ScandiDiver:
Originally posted by Lyc:

People that call poe1 too hard etc are usually only those that only know braindead trash like D4 and are not used to actually having to read a skill to understand it

This is one of the most braindead, delusional narcissistic and obnoxious statements i have read in a long time.

Myself dislike D3/D4 because it´s to simple and i used to love PoE1 back in the day when it was still miles more complicated and advanced then D3/D4, but have grown tired over the years because toooo much ♥♥♥♥ been added. More and more and more and more was added until it reached a point where it was just too much.

But i am getting back into PoE now when PoE2 releases since it looks more similar to PoE1 back in the days. MUCH more advanced and complicated then D3/D4.

I know countless of people with same experience as me. Actually most people i know, read or heard about got tired of PoE1 due to this reason.

You sound like you were just burned out man, that's the problem you get when you play a game for too long
ScandiDiver Dec 3, 2024 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Many-Named:
Originally posted by ScandiDiver:

This is one of the most braindead, delusional narcissistic and obnoxious statements i have read in a long time.

Myself dislike D3/D4 because it´s to simple and i used to love PoE1 back in the day when it was still miles more complicated and advanced then D3/D4, but have grown tired over the years because toooo much ♥♥♥♥ been added. More and more and more and more was added until it reached a point where it was just too much.

But i am getting back into PoE now when PoE2 releases since it looks more similar to PoE1 back in the days. MUCH more advanced and complicated then D3/D4.

I know countless of people with same experience as me. Actually most people i know, read or heard about got tired of PoE1 due to this reason.

You sound like you were just burned out man, that's the problem you get when you play a game for too long

No. It was absolutely nothing about being burned out. You are clueless.
Salt Engineer Dec 3, 2024 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by LikSir:
I never played in original poe and I want to know if it is worth buying poe 2? Because I heard that the first part was too hardcore and with a lot of grinding and that the second part will be more favorable to newbies. Is this true?

The best recommendation is play some PoE and find out.

Originally posted by ScandiDiver:
Originally posted by LikSir:
I never played in original poe and I want to know if it is worth buying poe 2? Because I heard that the first part was too hardcore and with a lot of grinding and that the second part will be more favorable to newbies. Is this true?

My perspective on this:

PoE1 was very advanced even back in the earlier years compared to most if not all arpgs, D3/D4 don´t come close to how advanced even early years PoE1 used to be. But it was still plausable as a casual gamer with a life outside of gaming to make your own builds and clear most of the content with reasonable efficiency, if you took a little bit extra time to plan your builds the week before a seasonal release.

But they just kept adding more and more and more stuff into the game, making it both harder and more complicated and with the years turning it so complicated and hard i just gave up as a casual gamer that like to do my own builds. I think this is what people refeer to with too hardcore.

PoE2 on early access release are more similar where PoE1 was years ago. PoE2 have made me get back my interest for PoE and i am getting back into PoE again now.

I placed in a few of the OG races and have played since. This is right.

PoE 1, at launch, was closer to a spiritual successor to Diablo 2. It had all of the complexity people expected for a Diablo 3, a skill forest instead of a skill tree, and the learning curve to go with it.

By itself, it took time to learn - especially since there was so much to get in to.

Adding additional layers on top any time there was a popular new mechanic eventually stacked so much content that if you stepped away and returned there'd be stacks of new mechanics and metas to catch up with. Your old way of doing things may be gone, or replaced.

BUT that's also 11 years worth of constant content additions and updates.

It's intimidating, but at the same time it's rewarding.

And it's free. Which kind of brings us to the real point.

If you want to make a decision on PoE 2 before it's launched as F2P, play PoE 1. Yes, they're updating/simplifying/advancing things depending. But it will give you a baseline to judge off of.

If you do like it, grab a pack. Spend some of the in-game currency on stash tabs. Premium inventory and a currency page specifically. Here's why:

In PoE 1, currency takes a lot of space... unless you use the currency tab.
If you wanted to trade easier, you needed a premium tab.

Both will enhance your PoE 1 experience, AND carry over to PoE 2 - so you more or less get to double dip for the same $30-60 or whatever amount you get. These things aren't required to play... but it makes the experience far better if you have them.

If it turns out you hate it... you probably aren't going to like PoE 2 either, but saved yourself the buy in cost.
Donoghu Dec 3, 2024 @ 12:47pm 
Personally, I would advise for any new players who haven't played PoE1 to at least wait until people start actually talking/reviewing the early release of PoE2 in depths and, in the meanwhile, play PoE1 with, in mind, that they should NOT aim at mastering the game, but just trying to have fun with it, mistakes and all. Basically, doing the complete opposite of what most PoE1 veterans are doing by playing the game, learning the story & lore for the fun of it.

In fact, for newbies in PoE1, I would heavily recommend to immediately turn off the General and Trade chat in-game until they have played a dozen hours for the simple fact that the general chat pushes too much late-game information and non-related crap that can easily overload any new players who are still learning the basics of PoE1 progression. Newbie can still joint others and chat within a party without having to access the cluster-brain-melting general chat.

PoE2 is quite different (though it's in the same genre) as PoE1 with its build, progress and even with its setting. It's totally possible that people would dislike PoE2 while loving PoE1 and vise versa, hence I cannot recommend people to push out money to access a Beta of PoE2 not knowing if it's even close to their cup of tea at this moment and, instead, wait until more information comes surrounding it once the honeymoon period generated by the early-access beta will have passed.

For those who aren't familiar, the "honeymoon period" is the period during which a game gets over-hyped or over-hated before it's even properly played & analysed. Many people wants to be the "first" to speak about it (be it bad or good) for the sake of feeling good about being the first to do such a thing even if they makes many misconception and mistakes by going so fast.

Right now, PoE2 is basically covered by blind praises and PR-focused hype. I'm not writing that it's wrong and it's a bad game, but a majority of what you'll see about the game is either written as a PR move (explaining features similarly to a wikipedia page) or written by people who want the fame & glory of being on the first line of "reviewing". Going fast in reviewing games 100% ends up with missing many points/details due to excitement.

Approx. 4 or 6 months after people starts accessing the Beta more "openly", we'll start to see the actual cracks in the game appearing and that's when I suggest new players to actually start considering buying into the early access or just wait for the actual F2P release later.

That's without the 99.9999% chances for the game to immediately evolves once thousands of players starts playing the beta and bascially becoming Beta Testers for GGG like it was the case with PoE1 during its first 2 years. People will find issues, exploits and bugs and GGG will have to balance the crap out of the game many times during Beta.
wulfster42 Dec 3, 2024 @ 11:14pm 
In some ways it's a bit sad because they have simplified things in poe 2, but at least they still have many ways to customize a character. You can always use other peoples build guides etc if you want that prevents the game from being too hard (for poe 1 at least). Supposedly PoE 2 is....easier.....both allowing more builds to be strong, and multiple ways to increase your power as you go.

From everything I have seen and heard, it sounds like it will be easier to start off in PoE 2 than PoE 1. I'm not overly thrilled about that, but I understand the need due to there being a Huge difference between new players today and new players back when PoE first launched.

We have generations of players who grew up with D3 and D4 etc, and never played or barely played D2. I think PoE 2 is going to be a hybrid between the low effort games like D3-4 and the more hardcore games like D2 and Grim dawn etc.

Anyway, I have absolutely no doubt that it'll be worth $30 to start playing the game early. It will be at least 6 months before the game is available for free, and we are starting off with enough characters that will play quite different from each other, to play 1 character per month, to death, and that is just one build out of many for each class. Basically you could just play PoE 2 for the next 6 months easily, and still be having fun and have things to improve etc. That is totally worth $30.....and unless you barely game or only play free games, you would spend WAY more than $30 on other games in that time to keep yourself occupied.

You could just play PoE 1 though, as to be honest it probably won't last much past the official poe 2 launch (heck I bet the numbers drop a FREAKTON after friday). I love PoE but I highly doubt I'll be playing it much in the next year, if ever again.

So yeah, it's worth it to get PoE 2 and be in on the ground floor experiencing everything fresh with all other players, but if you have not actually played PoE 1 much, finished it, played the end game etc, now is a very good time to do so, before almost everyone leaves and you can no longer trade for anything.
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