Infinite Hunger is the worst thing that has transpired to this game.

[KoUJkoDeBo4ka]

And it feels like GGG knows this, since you can get another key offering you to go fight it after a single map clear. No wonder, if you mind the bs which is the fight itself with it's toxic sludge stage. I've made 3 attempts to fight this thing and failed miserably, 18 portals gone. The reason is simple. No matter what, I can't find the way out of toxic sludge. That is ridicilous. Not only the mechanic removes armour but not dodge chance, making it deliberate screw you gesture towards anyone who does not stack on dodge, but you also felt the need to remove the map, so that I can't, for example, have a glimpse of a ground patch that I need to dash towards next, because OH BOY, IT IS NOT PRESENT ON THE SCREEEN, SO GOOD LUCK JUMPING IN BLIND, WHILE BEING ASSAULTED BY MOBS THAT WILL EAT YOU IN A BLINK OF AN EYE. The idea that I need to follow the sludge to find the exit also is a mockery on a few levels: first, IT IS ACTUALLY NOT SO EASY TO ACCERTAIN, WHERE IT MOVES, second, even if I see where it moves, it does not mean that I will recognise the exit when I will see it, AND STILL I HAVE NO MAP TO HAVE AN ICON POINTING THAT EXIT IS WITHIN REACH. And of cource, there is more than one layout or landing point so that you can't just LEARN where the exit is, nah, that's not entertaining, it seems.
The only thing I have left to pray is that the second one is not that cheap.
UPD. Seems like I have been wrong on part that the sludge debuff only removes armour, which is not correct. gr8. Still, after a glance at the Black Star, this fight feels even worse in comparison.

[Dies Fourth]

feel better now ?

[Tenzek]

The second one is a standard fight. It's about the difficulty of a T16 map boss.

[KoUJkoDeBo4ka]

Originally posted by Tenzek:

The second one is a standard fight. It's about the difficulty of a T16 map boss.

Sirus had each move telegraphed quite well. Both in visuals and sounds. His closest move to the toxic sludge is the slam from above wherein he traps you in a 3-layer ring. and in said ring, which is already so small that you can see it in it's entirety on screen most of the time, he has bright particles showing you, where to move to avoid death. Meanwhile, the swamp be like "go figure, if you can 1) that the exit is at the curren't flow side 2 ) that there are some patches of ground that are redherring and give you no progress shall you reach them 3) that you are in a box, and you can't see the border unless You faceplant into it, because you have no map.
So yeah, about that "standart T16" fight...

[KoUJkoDeBo4ka]

Originally posted by Dies Fourth:

feel better now ?

No, because still, as long as it will take for at least some design choices to be revisited, reconsidered and maybe, if we are lucky, reworked, I will have to trial and error this fight blindly, because I am just a player, not a demiurge downloaded with encyclopedic amounts of knowledge required to maintain dps required to destroy the boss before it can use said ability.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Welcome to GGG's game design "philosophy". lol

The only winning move is not to play.

[Tenzek]

Originally posted by T3R3Z1 PYROP3:

So yeah, about that "standart T16" fight...

You mentioned the other boss.

Originally posted by T3R3Z1 PYROP3:

The only thing I have left to pray is that the second one is not that cheap.

I said it's more like a standard fight, because it has none of what you're complaining about in the Infinite Hunger fight. I didn't say the boss you were talking about isn't as described.

And yes, it's about the difficulty of a T16 map boss. I had less than 2 million DPS and killed it in a few seconds in the initial encounter. If you get there and find it too difficult, then you're probably struggling with T16s, too.

[phadin]

Originally posted by T3R3Z1 PYROP3:

Originally posted by Tenzek:

The second one is a standard fight. It's about the difficulty of a T16 map boss.

Sirus had each move telegraphed quite well. Both in visuals and sounds. His closest move to the toxic sludge is the slam from above wherein he traps you in a 3-layer ring. and in said ring, which is already so small that you can see it in it's entirety on screen most of the time, he has bright particles showing you, where to move to avoid death. Meanwhile, the swamp be like "go figure, if you can 1) that the exit is at the curren't flow side 2 ) that there are some patches of ground that are redherring and give you no progress shall you reach them 3) that you are in a box, and you can't see the border unless You faceplant into it, because you have no map.
So yeah, about that "standart T16" fight...

When Sirus fight was first introduced, a lot of the mechanics had issues that made them more difficult then they should have been. Forget the glow on the meteor maze, sirus himself could actually block you from getting out the exit. The storms he spawwned during transitoin would track to you and could end up blocking the entrance if you die. Other stuff like that which really doesn't come out well enough till it's been run through a lot of times by players who give feedback. Now we have new bosses, and their mechanics will need some tweaking as well. Unfrotunate, but that is the way things go sometimes.

[BounceGenesisUK]

get gud.

[flipmode949]

Well i cant follow your arguments.

I went with lvl 74 and 2,5k life into the fight, my investment wasnt even a single ex and i was missing the last 4 ascendancy point because i still had to do two labs.

I went blind into the fight.

If you ever have done some maps, you should know abaout concecrated groud and know no to walk in it. So first i saw that green stuff i new, not to step in it.

As with almost every boss i tried to always stay behind him and circle him to avoid hits. Every time he moves his arms or says somethin i was ready to dodge and get some space between him and me. The arena is really big and you have lots of space.

As soon as he goes undergroud you dont have to be Einstein to know you better not cuddle with that thing but move away from it. Again you see that green trail behind the Boss. So again, better not step in it and better not cover alle the arena in green stuff.

In that swamp phase i didnt know what to do i tried to kill as many mobs as i could an hoped there is a cap and after reaching in i will get teleported back. But that didnt happen, so i walked an died.

Next time in the swamp phase i tried to walk asap, but died again without seeing the exit. So i looked for a guide on youtube, because i want to kill the boss.

I killed him in the next phase so i had not to go in the swamp again.

All in all i liked the fight and there are waaaaaay harder bosses in poe with much more complex mechanics. I didnt find him hard at all.
I had more trouble with some normal map bosses, like the chicken with the bow in canyon, that oneshots me everytime he hits me.

So maybe your Character ist that good or you need to pay more attention to the boss and his surrounding to kill him.

In addition to all this, some people like to do bosses blind and figuring out stuff. If you dont like this, you should look for a guide.

[Clyan]

Originally posted by flipmode949:

I went with lvl 74 and 2,5k life into the fight, my investment wasnt even a single ex and i was missing the last 4 ascendancy point because i still had to do two labs.

So you didn't have third and fourth lab done? What build is that and how did you navigate all the maps leading up to this boss without reaching a higher lvl than 74?

[Nico]

I just accepted death every time he swallowed me into this weird side area, since I couldn't figure out how to escape. Since I delayed the fight a bit since the other new boss was totally destroying me I had absolutely no issue with infinite hunger once I fought him, except the 2 deaths in this stupid side area. But yeah, escaping from there is not very obvious ... but the rest of the fight was easy.

[flipmode949]

Originally posted by Clyan:

Originally posted by flipmode949:

I went with lvl 74 and 2,5k life into the fight, my investment wasnt even a single ex and i was missing the last 4 ascendancy point because i still had to do two labs.

So you didn't have third and fourth lab done? What build is that and how did you navigate all the maps leading up to this boss without reaching a higher lvl than 74?

I simply died to often in maps to level fast. But i could do all Content and all bosses leading to this boss. Just with dying and using the portals i have got. Sometimes it worked out well, sometimes i needed all 6 portals.

Im playing explosive arrow.

I thought i was missing only the last lab, but when i wanted to do it i figured out i was also missing the lab before.

[Clyan]

Originally posted by flipmode949:

Originally posted by Clyan:

So you didn't have third and fourth lab done? What build is that and how did you navigate all the maps leading up to this boss without reaching a higher lvl than 74?

I simply died to often in maps to level fast. But i could do all Content and all bosses leading to this boss. Just with dying and using the portals i have got. Sometimes it worked out well, sometimes i needed all 6 portals.

Im playing explosive arrow.

I thought i was missing only the last lab, but when i wanted to do it i figured out i was also missing the lab before.

did u go with palsteron's EA?

[flipmode949]

Originally posted by Clyan:

....
did u go with palsteron's EA?

No, it was crouching_tuna`s build

[Shimazu]

The sludge flows towards the portal.

If you cant find it. Do it like i do and die in that phase and kill it after.