PoE is FAR better than Diablo 4

[Sonic Mirage 🎸]

[Modest Mauser]

Yeah, it's p cool, I guess. Welp, see ya.

[kalashnjkov21]

D4 is 70$ for 70 hours grindfest with poor end game contents. Playing both games doesnt hurt anyone.

[vukotlak]

I have sunken a lot of hours into D4. Much more then i should had. Was hoping it gets better and i gave the game more chances then i should had since i am a huge Diablo fan.

Well. In the end i am now here reinstalling PoE so. Speaks for itself

[Hiroko]

boycott new "d4 vs poe" threads. this is beyond old.

[Sonic Mirage 🎸]

Originally posted by Hiroko:

boycott new "d4 vs poe" threads. this is beyond old.

Should discuss

[Diomedes]

Path of Exile definitely has alot more content.. Diablo 4 is just in it's infancy, compared to 10 years of content, balancing, and reworks done in Path of Exile. It will be interesting to see how the D4 seasons and future expansions pan out. Hopefully it will turn into a game to rival PoE.. Every one wins, I plan on playing both.

[Maxpeinas]

Originally posted by Diomedes:

Path of Exile definitely has alot more content.. Diablo 4 is just in it's infancy, compared to 10 years of content, balancing, and reworks done in Path of Exile. It will be interesting to see how the D4 seasons and future expansions pan out. Hopefully it will turn into a game to rival PoE.. Every one wins, I plan on playing both.

D4 aims for normies, it will never be on the same level in complexity or class/skill selection as PoE. It just won't work with MMO path blizz chose, it's neither good MMO nor ARPG, it's mediocore at best. Should've stayed ARPG and focus on it.

[Funpire]

Originally posted by Maxpeinas:

Originally posted by Diomedes:

Path of Exile definitely has alot more content.. Diablo 4 is just in it's infancy, compared to 10 years of content, balancing, and reworks done in Path of Exile. It will be interesting to see how the D4 seasons and future expansions pan out. Hopefully it will turn into a game to rival PoE.. Every one wins, I plan on playing both.

D4 aims for normies, it will never be on the same level in complexity or class/skill selection as PoE. It just won't work with MMO path blizz chose, it's neither good MMO nor ARPG, it's mediocore at best. Should've stayed ARPG and focus on it.

No.

POE is far more normie friendly and casual friendly. It's a chore to level in D4 and you finish 20 levels below where you should at the end of campaign, whereas in POE, you just naturally finish your level requirements around the end of campaign. Your gear is constantly being changed to allow for optimal gem placements along the way. It's just easier. Everything is easier.

Builds may appear easier to build, but the stat system is so intentionally convoluted most non-arpg players are going to build it wrong anyway. There are also just less builds for a casual player to pick from and follow, unlike POE.

The only thing I'd argue is harder is lvling past 84. Coming from someone whose only played a few seasons, I quit league/toons after 92 because dying takes too much XP. So I never choose builds that go beyond 92 skill points.

POE just offers greater flexibility, is more spelled out, and is a better game. That said, it's also much older, but the D4 team dropped that ball when they could have just used the best and most loved systems from D2 and D3, then built a winner.

That's too hard though.

[Rinko]

Originally posted by Funpire:

POE is far more normie friendly and casual friendly.

Originally posted by Funpire:

I quit league/toons after 92 because dying takes too much XP. So I never choose builds that go beyond 92 skill points.

Have you tried not letting your life bar reach zero? Hope this helps

[xılǝℲ ★]

Originally posted by Funpire:

Originally posted by Maxpeinas:

D4 aims for normies, it will never be on the same level in complexity or class/skill selection as PoE. It just won't work with MMO path blizz chose, it's neither good MMO nor ARPG, it's mediocore at best. Should've stayed ARPG and focus on it.

No.

POE is far more normie friendly and casual friendly. It's a chore to level in D4 and you finish 20 levels below where you should at the end of campaign, whereas in POE, you just naturally finish your level requirements around the end of campaign. Your gear is constantly being changed to allow for optimal gem placements along the way. It's just easier. Everything is easier.

Builds may appear easier to build, but the stat system is so intentionally convoluted most non-arpg players are going to build it wrong anyway. There are also just less builds for a casual player to pick from and follow, unlike POE.

The only thing I'd argue is harder is lvling past 84. Coming from someone whose only played a few seasons, I quit league/toons after 92 because dying takes too much XP. So I never choose builds that go beyond 92 skill points.

POE just offers greater flexibility, is more spelled out, and is a better game. That said, it's also much older, but the D4 team dropped that ball when they could have just used the best and most loved systems from D2 and D3, then built a winner.

That's too hard though.

Everything in this comment shows you don't know the game at all lmfao. 92 levels isn't 92 points. Leveling is never hard in any scenario, you're just doing it wrong. PoE isn't friendly for casuals either, you can see this from your comment xD.

[Aseng]

PoE should do more to improve it's inclusivity though. I hate that i have to play as a white girl if i want to be a spell caster. Diablo 4 let you customize your character to your liking.

[DaTank]

Originally posted by Aseng:

PoE should do more to improve it's inclusivity though. I hate that i have to play as a white girl if i want to be a spell caster. Diablo 4 let you customize your character to your liking.

You don’t have to play as a white girl to be a spell caster. But it’s apparent why D4 is more your flavour.

[kalashnjkov21]

Diablo 4 doesnt have gender lock but it still has body lock, you have to play as a fat person if you want to play druid.

[Jaoso]

PoE is quite easy up to white maps, any build can do that without much effort. Yellow maps will test your build, red maps and ultimate bosses are evil. Seasonal content can be easy or hard, fun or annoying, but its offer something for anyone.

D4 doesn't offer much after campaign is done, and artificial loot limitations tied to campaign completion is horrible. Maybe in 5-7 years it will be interesting, but i highly doubt it.

[Diomedes]

Originally posted by Maxpeinas:

Originally posted by Diomedes:

Path of Exile definitely has alot more content.. Diablo 4 is just in it's infancy, compared to 10 years of content, balancing, and reworks done in Path of Exile. It will be interesting to see how the D4 seasons and future expansions pan out. Hopefully it will turn into a game to rival PoE.. Every one wins, I plan on playing both.

D4 aims for normies, it will never be on the same level in complexity or class/skill selection as PoE. It just won't work with MMO path blizz chose, it's neither good MMO nor ARPG, it's mediocore at best. Should've stayed ARPG and focus on it.

.. Except it offers a far better multiplayer experience than Path of Exile has ever done.. Tell me, how often do you group in Path of Exile? For most players, its basically never. Diablo 4, I group all the time and it's a blast. I am hoping, with PoE2, they slow down the game simply because it isn't enjoyable grouping with people in the end game with how people zoom through content.