How good is Shaper farming for early currency building as trapper `?

[Sonnenbank]

Tried it a bit for today and yesterday.

Strategy: Buy Guardian maps (hydra, Pheonix , Minotour and Chimera)
clear maps , open Shaper
kill Shaper
sell fragments and drops.

My
Idea behind it was

1.)
Guardian maps are way too cheap.
A guardian Map costs ~ 16 chaos and when you clear the boss you get a fragment that is worth 18 chaos
Inside the maps i choose Sacred Harvests since they are fast and profitable and searing exarch altars.

2.) Seismic Trapper is good on Bossing >-<

Results from 6 runs aka 24 maps and 6 shapers -> investment 372 chaos

5 Maven Invitation The Formed that sold for 45 chaos each
1 Sepiroth from Dominus boss in Shaper realm that sold for 209 chaos
3 Other Maven Invitation that sold for 10 chaos
6 shaper fragments that sold for (105/110) -> ~ 645 chaos
9 harvests that gave crafting material worth -> 130 chaos

Lots of other stuff from exarch altars that was probably worth around ~ 100chaos

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Investment 372 chaos
Return 1339 chaos
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net proft = 3.5 divines and some chaos

Now i am sure there are better methods to farm currency in PoE for a only "3 divine" build
But i am not sure if there is much better stuff for a trapper ?


Now question is :

If you are a low budget Seismic Trapper is there better ideas to start building currency ?

[Jeromint]

Seems like a solid strategy.

Personally I would also run 10 way bosses in order to sell Maven's Writs.
Also Gift of the goddesses fragments might also be a good way to make currency. (but these do not appear often)
And If you don't want to invest into heist, selling blueprints and Gianna contracts might make some money unless you want to make currency by running them yourself.

[Shimazu]

Shaper fight is Long and annoying you can make profit by Just buying the fragments and sell the shaper fragment 24/7.

You can get them for 4x15-20c each and sell the shaper one for 110

[Sonnenbank]

Well the quesion if to run the gaurdian maps or just run the fragments is probably pretty close .
And i think in my example the single Sepiroth Drop heavily flaws it in faver of just doing fragments.

Now lets do some math.

Of the 1339 overall income -> 485 chaos was from 24 guardian maps that did cost 372 chaos. Average map completion including breaks between maps and stash tab sorting, clearing harvests etc etc... was 7 minutes.

So thats 24x7 = 168 minutes with 113 chaos net profit. + 6 free shaper entrance which is worth 80*6 chaos

So -> thats average 211 chaos per hour or 0,87 divines per hour.

Now if i just do shaper and get no results besides the fragments that would be
6 x 106 chaos from shaper -> 636 and 6x 80 as entry fee - >

= 156 per hour in case you need 10minutes for shaper fight.
I did exclure the Sepiroth drop since you cant expect to get a Sepiroth every 6 shapers >-<

So in case i need 10 minutes for the shaper fight it is a lot worse to buy the fragments instead of the maps.

if i needed 7 minutes per shaper -> it would be 223 chaos per hour and therfore slightly better than running the maps.


So currently since i need ~ 10 minutes for shaper and + 7 minutes for map (including all tasks outside the map , too)
Its a lot more profitable to do the guardian maps instead of buying the frags

EDIT:

I am aware both methods get massivly beaten by just speedfarming T16 exarch maps
but for a 2.2 divine trapper its not bad to make 0,87divine every hour

[dOBER]

I think you cleartime is way to high. You should skip harvest and do maps like shaper guardians as fast as possible. Pick for example legion which you could do on the fly and which cost no time compare to harvest. If you drop your time on 1-2 minutes max for each run your chances to get something are much higher.

[Sonnenbank]

As fast as possible with low budget seismic is still very slow >-<
thats why i am building mathil coc bow now :)
and 7 minutes is not the map clear time.... thats the time with buying maps and everything inbetween.

I set timer then i start buying maps -> running maps -> stashing loot and putting all 4 shaper fragments in map device - > then i stop timer
I tried some leagion with seismic but it didnt feel good

Also my shaper clear time probably got down now since i got a lot better at the fight ;)


unfortunately season for me is almost over due to RL stuff comming up in January
will only continue to play from February on .....

[dOBER]

If you want a fast build you should try wardloop. Yes it rquires some research how to make it work. Most things you can craft yourself very easy to save currency. There are some low budget versions.

[vid23]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

I tried some leagion with seismic but it didnt feel good

Traps arent good with those since you cant cover a large enough area with them, abyss is really good though, pop your traps around the holes and watch as things die well rolled jewels sell like candy, same with the belts, semi decent stygian vise sells for a lot, t3-t2 triple res goes for around a div for example

[Sonnenbank]

I now changed to Voltaxic bow and still do shaper kills.

For me its one of the most profitable things
Now with Voltaxic i am a lot faster than with Seismic.

Guardian map kill sub 2 minutes
Shaper kill sub 7 minutes
4 guardian kills + 1 shaper kill -> sub 15 minute.

i am currently averaging 2.25 divines/hour (550chaos/h) with close to zero variance from this method which honestly isnt too bad


Its also funny since i am currently on 19 divines and before playing softcore averaged about 3 per season T_T

[dOBER]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

I now changed to Voltaxic bow and still do shaper kills.

For me its one of the most profitable things
Now with Voltaxic i am a lot faster than with Seismic.

Guardian map kill sub 2 minutes
Shaper kill sub 7 minutes
4 guardian kills + 1 shaper kill -> sub 15 minute.

i am currently averaging 2.25 divines/hour (550chaos/h) with close to zero variance from this method which honestly isnt too bad


Its also funny since i am currently on 19 divines and before playing softcore averaged about 3 per season T_T

Welcome to PoE. You see you will learn from league to league. Every league its get faster and you make more money. Every different build you play you learn whitch items are needed and whitch items are worth something.
Right now you are "only" someone who gives other peoples even more money but this might change next league when you start to craft. You will learn to craft for yourself and once you played more different builds you will learn how to profit craft for other builds you played.

One example with your 19 divine you buy 3.5 divine minion cluster and use your earned harvest craft. With a single lucky roll you double your 19 divine. Even with decent one you double your invest. There are so many meta items whitch cost 10+ divine you could craft by yourself. Another example would be wardloop gear whcih is easy to craft with only a few divine invest and sell for a lot. Fossile crafting for helmet, boots, gloves and harvest crrafting for wardloop belt. To give you an idea how much they sell, for boots/helmet/gloves we talk about 20-60 divine and for low belts 10 divine up to 90 divine for good ones.

Unused divine in inventory are dead money and can be used to get much more. You will notice this later when you ask yourself how to buy gear which cost a lot. Impossible to farm these items with 2 div/h but thats fine, it requires leagues of experiance.