My solution to Path Of Exile on PS4 (Controller Support)

[Andrew]

So I started typing what was going to be a short comment on another user's discussion which quickly turned into a few paragraphs. For that reason I will essentially repost all of what I said here.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von rakisak:

I just think that this game would do good there. Then add in cross play and triple the size

I really like this game and I really like the PS4, however, when this topic comes up a few issues come to mind right away. This is something I would like to see in the future so i will also try and offer suggestions of how these issues could be subverted.

Expectations: Right off the bat it is worth noting that these two different "pools" of players have different expectations. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but the standard set by the games available to each pool has in a way shaped the expectations of said pool of players. It is generally a lot easier to develop a game on PC and right off the bat you are then making your game available to a larger audience then you would be on say a console. for this reason we get a lot more games on PC though, consequently, sometimes these games don't run as good as we may hope. For this reason PC gamers are (for the most part) more tolerant when it comes to a games ability to run which is why we don't mind things like desync when it comes to PoE. On console players get outraged if a game doesn't run perfectly right out the gate so this would put a lot of pressure on GGG. In the future when they have things running more smoothly perhaps this issue can be overcome.

Hot keys: Just for fun (misery) try playing PoE without using any hot keys. Players would expect 5 hotkeys for different attacks on the console. All of the buttons on the controller exist in groupings of four so right away we know there's no ergonomic way of doing this. To be fair most builds on PoE only use 1-2 different attacks anyways so I feel like this is somewhat of a non-issue so long as GGG could convince players that this is a non-issue. Alternatively I do have what I feel could be a solution to this.

Here's my example of a potential layout for the controls:
D-Pad 4 flasks

Left Joystick This would be for moving around and would essentially replace your left click

Right Joystick This one would be a little trickier, but I think it would be cool if we were given the option to map a movement skill to this joystick

Face Buttons (excluding X) + L2 these would essentially replace your QWERT keys (I know we're missing one hold on) which are used to map skills to.

R2 would be Right Click

X this is the key that would be prompted when we come into contact with things we can interact with like stash and loot.

*This is where things get interesting*

L1 (hold) + D-Pad Holding L1 could open a small menu with 4 different menu options to choose from (ie. Inventory, Skill Tree, Auction House?, Social).

Options this could bring up a larger menu of all the menus not mentioned above.

R1 (hold) + D-Pad This would open a menu similar to the one regarding L1 except this is where our aura's are stored. $ different auras will satisfy most builds and swapping them out then applying new ones would work for support and low life builds since you have to do this on the pc version anyways.

Touch pad This would open the map

Trade on Console: PoE trading is not perfect atm and is due to undergo some sort of revamping.One suggestion being made quite often is an auction house. This is not the most popular solution, but it is about the only one that would work well on console. Players on console need things to be more streamlined and typing out messages and trying to configure PoE chat using a controller is not going to satisfy those standards.


*Conclusion* All in all I think some things would feel more clunky on the console whereas other things may feel way more comfortable. I know my ideas aren't perfect and I'm open to suggestions In the comment section below.

tl;dr It could potentially be done in the future, some things will feel more clunky on the console than on pc, but other things would feel way better.

[Andrew]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von DeathWrench:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von X902BOSS | Mayor:

I'm trying to get away from looking at this as a PoE player on PC transitioning to PS4 and more as a player who only does console

This isn't a console game, it's a free to play PC game, porting takes a lot of money to do. Sometimes the makers of a game will pay a company to port their game to console, maybe if you make a company, and gave GGG a really low offer to port it for them, you could do it yourself, or maybe you could just get used to using a mouse and keyboard.

Diablo 3 was made with both PC and console players in mind, this game wasn't. Do you see a Runescape port? What about a WoW port? League of Legends? Maple Story? All Points Bulletin? Dota 2? There's a reason why these games aren't on the console. It's either because consoles can't run them, the controls wouldn't work, or sometimes it's just because it costs too much to have the game ported.

As for minimal controller support, it could probably be a thing, but a console port probably won't happen.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von X902BOSS | Mayor:

If they were to do it I wou8ld actually prefer there not be any cross play, therefore, I wouldn't mind it being a new game.

By cross play, do you mean PC players playing with PS4 players? Cause that's not actually a thing yet.

Let's just keep in mind here that at no point does the post say "Okay GGG now you have everything you need so make this port happen". As mentioned above it was a lengthy reply to a user wondering how controller support could work to potentially make this game work on PS4. IT's unl;ikely it would happen, but if it did this is how I could see them doing it. Also let's not dillude ourselves into believing that the mere fact that there are other games that exist on PC and not PS4 are some how evidence that this game could never exist on PS4 as well.

[Spider]

I like the part where people say "no auction house" when in reality, the premium stash tabs, are a frickin auction house... you browse them on a site, and whisper the person to buy... guess what... an auction house. great job.

[Andrew]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Living Monstrosity:

I like the part where people say "no auction house" when in reality, the premium stash tabs, are a frickin auction house... you browse them on a site, and whisper the person to buy... guess what... an auction house. great job.

I don't liek the idea of them adding an auction hous eot the game on pc, but what's interesting is that for console it may be the only way to keep trading in the game and people say 'no auction house' but then offer no alternative.

[Spider]

The point is, there already IS an auctionhouse on PC. It's just not called an auctionhouse, so it's alright. poe.trade is the auction house for PoE. I really don't understand why everyone says there will never be an auction house. lol

[Grumpy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von X902BOSS | Mayor:

-snip-

PS4 has usb, XBOX One has usb.

Your write up is a solution looking for a problem, if people want to play games like this, they can buy a usb mouse and keyboard and be done with it.

Steam controller is also another realistic option since that can emulate mouse movement, the biggest hurdle for games like this, and convert it into on screen movement (walking) with a seperate analog for on screen mouse movement in order to access menus etc.

[Andrew]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Living Monstrosity:

The point is, there already IS an auctionhouse on PC. It's just not called an auctionhouse, so it's alright. poe.trade is the auction house for PoE. I really don't understand why everyone says there will never be an auction house. lol

That's because it is the automation of an auction hous ethat worries people. In an auction house you actually have bidding (that's where the word auction comes from). Some players worry that this would take away a lot of potential interaction between characters. There are also others who fea that this will make most items worth next to nothing because if sales can be done automatically they will be done more frequently.

I can definitely see where you're coming from how poe.trade basically is the trading system for POE eventohugh they don't own the site, but it is simply not an auction house and it avoids most of the issues people have with the idea of an auction house.

[Battleseed]

AH house prefered thx.
1. Don't have to send so many whispers to afk and non responsive people
2. Can set a buyout price and be done. No further steps but collect currency
3. Can still make currency with trades while in a masters or maps rotation or even the lab
4. No bait and switch sellers. Lazy Fks who don't price the item correctly till you PM them about it. Dont set a buyout price if your not willing to sell it for that price.
5. No interactions with rude people that have no manners and trade like they are dealing with an AI/Vendor.

[Drake]

People please... you're all forgeting the most important thing.

The PS4 can't handle POE...








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